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Old 03-25-2017, 01:19 AM   #76
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It could be possible, but not for everyone. Some people can survive in certain environments without changing their mental state too much.

Not everyone is a product of their environment, but I can see a escort becoming a sociopath or developing a split personality.
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Old 03-25-2017, 03:32 PM   #77
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To understand sex drive, one only need to look to nature. A bull will service as many heifers as he can, day in and day out until all are impregnated. There is an innate unspoken psychology to spread the seed and strengthen the herd.

There is no emotion or bonding on either side.

You wrote, "The supply side of this market is likely to be made up of ppl who form little or no emotional bonds with those they have sex with, as it will be easy for them merely to have sex w/ them and walk away. But they also must be ppl whom others will actually pay for sex."

You couldn't be more wrong in your assumption. The supply side of this equation is extremely capable of feeling, bonding, loving and committing. Her 'need' is about survival at the most basic of levels. She must protect and feed her offspring and since that bull has long since moved on servicing as many others as he can, she is left to fend for herself and her children.

Some numbers for you...

"A 1995 study ... found that people who were sexually abused as children are a whopping 27.7 times more likely than others to be arrested for prostitution." "Many prostitutes say they turned to paid dates as a way to take control of their sexuality after having had it taken from them. Others are forced into prostitution by their abusers—a 2001 study by the Center for Impact Research (CIR) noted that it is common for adults in particularly dire circumstances to force children into prostitution to pay rent or to buy drugs. It starts with childhood sexual abuse by a relative or mother's boyfriend, a lifelong psychological trauma for which they often never receive counseling or treatment."

"Women bear the brunt of prostitution incarcerations. Johns usually face heavy fines—under a Chicago city ordinance they are charged $700 in fines and car impoundment fees—but then, in the vast majority of cases, charges are dropped. Male pimps are likewise rarely arrested."

Summary of research and clinical findings regarding violence in all types of prostitution.

95% of those in prostitution experienced sexual harassment that would be legally actionable in another job.
65% to 95% of those in prostitution were sexually assaulted as children.
70% to 95% were physically assaulted in prostitution.
60% to 75% were raped in prostitution.
75% of those in prostitution have been homeless at some point in their lives.
85% to 95% of those in prostitution want to escape it, but have no other options for survival.
68% of 854 people in strip club, massage, and street prostitution in 9 countries met criteria for
post traumatic stress disorder or PTSD.
80% to 90% of those in prostitution experience verbal abuse and social contempt which adversely affect
them.

The reality is that “Male dominance means that the society creates a pool of prostitutes by any means necessary so that men have what men need to stay on top, to feel big, literally, metaphorically, in every way.”
(Andrea Dworkin, 1997, Prostitution and Male Supremacy, Life and Death, New York: Free Press).

"As recently as 1991, police in a southern California community closed all rape reports made by prostitutes and addicts, placing them in a file stamped “NHI.” The letters stand for the words “No Human Involved.” (Linda Fairstein, 1993, Sexual Violence: Our War Against Rape, New York: William Morrow and Co.).

Judges, police and juries often hold bias against sex workers. In Philadelphia, Judge Teresa Carr-Deni called gang-rape of a sex worker at gunpoint “theft of services” and refused to allow prosecution to press aggravated sexual assault charges. In South Africa, police routinely refuse to even pursue rape cases involving sex workers or laugh at victims when victims come forward.

In Norway, several migrant sex workers were evicted from their apartment and had their cash and electronics seized after reporting violent rape by individuals impersonating police. Migrant sex worker victims also face risk of being deported in Canada and the United States if they seek law enforcement help, and while relief from deportation for victims theoretically exists, it is inconsistently applied, high-barrier, quota-capped and temporary, and the process of applying for relief is labor-intensive, lengthy, and biased against imperfect victims. Trans women of color face disproportionate profiling as sex workers and disproportionate police misconduct and sexual assault while in custody. And as a current, all-to-common example of how race, class, and criminalization of drug use and sex work intersect to make women vulnerable to state violence, Oklahoma City police officer Daniel Holtzclaw preyed on 13 black, low-income women, many with criminal records for prostitution and drug use, systematically using threat of arrest and the victims’ vulnerability due to race, class, and status as a sex worker or drug user to assault them.

A recent academic article found that decriminalization is the only framework that would secure human rights for sex workers in South Africa. Across contexts, decriminalization allows sex workers to work together and for street-based sex workers to work in safer areas, factors which increase safety. Decriminalization also increases sex worker access to justice and allows sex workers to report violence to the police without fearing arrest. 70% of sex workers and social service providers in New Zealand say that sex workers were more likely to go to the police after sex work had been decriminalized.

Sex workers sometimes also face structural violence from healthcare and social service professionals, but there are things agencies can to to help fight violence against sex workers. They can train staff to be culturally competent towards sex workers. They can organize bad date lists. They can support policies that increase sex worker access to justice, safety, and human rights. They can support or create space for peer-led efforts for safety and organizing.

Sex workers - even the most vulnerable sex workers - are resilient, and in the face of individual and systematic violence, they support each other in staying safe and fighting back against violence. They organize bad date lists and share information about bad clients. They work together and look out for each other. They serve as safety buddies for each other. And they come together to support other sex workers who have experienced victimization. They conduct their own research. They teach service providers how to serve people in the sex trade without stigma. They educate each other about legal systems and their rights. Sex workers don’t need rescue or sympathy, they need solidarity in their fight for human rights.

Almost all states decline to prosecute a rapist that rapes a prostitute.

None of these acts committed against women are committed by women but by men.

All is not lost, things they are a changing thanks to the internet.

In the last 10 to 15 years many women without the typical baggage are moving into this sector of employment. Today's working women have very little in common with the plight of yesterday's working girls. We are in charge of our businesses. Our lives. Our homes. Our children. And our goals. We are empowered.

I'll ask you again, are we "whores" truly "sociopaths" or just hated because we think and act like men?
Sad but true... I had read a few reports in the past with those very same statistics. I think that its sad that the ladies are labeled that way. I was on one board where the clients or board members were very vocal about how they labeled the ladies and in many instances were downright abusive in the way they spoke.
I have always had a very respectful view of the ladies and very appreciative that there are ladies willing to share their time with me I would rather have the friend connection.. It has to be hard for the lady especially with them producing oxytocin that would confuse them emotionally.
I find myself questioning why I am a client knowing that theres a good chance the ladies I meet have had some horrific past that lowered their self image and god knows I would never wish to further that low self image instead I would rather we part company with them feeling that they weren't viewed as just a commodity but rather the feeling that they are viewed as a valued personal friend.
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Old 03-25-2017, 06:01 PM   #78
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Old 03-29-2017, 06:57 AM   #79
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Sad but true... I had read a few reports in the past with those very same statistics. I think that its sad that the ladies are labeled that way. I was on one board where the clients or board members were very vocal about how they labeled the ladies and in many instances were downright abusive in the way they spoke.
I have always had a very respectful view of the ladies and very appreciative that there are ladies willing to share their time with me I would rather have the friend connection.. It has to be hard for the lady especially with them producing oxytocin that would confuse them emotionally.
I find myself questioning why I am a client knowing that theres a good chance the ladies I meet have had some horrific past that lowered their self image and god knows I would never wish to further that low self image instead I would rather we part company with them feeling that they weren't viewed as just a commodity but rather the feeling that they are viewed as a valued personal friend.
Thank you Wendlo.

The thing to keep in mind is that these numbers, for the most part, are geared toward street walkers. I find that most women I've encountered DO NOT fall into this description. We have created "do not serve" lists among ourselves. We check each other in and out of meetings so someone knows where we are. We have a wide spread alert system and law makers are beginning to listen. Though rape is still considered theft of services things are changing and for the better. A prosecutor in New York successfully prosecuted a rape against a sex worker so we now have a precedent on the books. We have all made an informed decision. No one is forcing us. We aren't giving 99% of our money to anyone. Rather we are supporting our own families and paying for the educations of our children. We pay taxes, we own real-estate, some of us own small businesses on the side. Personally, I love to travel world wide, the more remote the better. We all have dreams and goals. Even more importantly, we are enjoying ourselves.

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Old 03-29-2017, 07:00 AM   #80
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Old 03-29-2017, 11:48 PM   #81
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You guys remember that Shamwow guy?
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Old 03-30-2017, 08:44 AM   #82
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wow ..... wow....... Honestly, Providers should be respected a lot more. Providers provide a special experience that hobbyists are lacking in their lives. Each hobbyist is different as each provider is different. It has been my experience that many times, intimacy is more important than sex. Speaking for myself, though retired now, I gave my gentlemen, yes i said gentlemen, respect, I cared for each and every one of my regular hobbyists... There are some hobbyists I still consider friends... sociopath... them no, me, well that is still to be determined, lol. however, I guarantee, even being retired, if i contact any of my regular hobbyists, they would be there for me. Providers create friendships and fill a void in hobbyists lives. Granted this is not true of all hobbyists and providers, but it stands true with me and every one of my gentleman. exactly why i help search for the sub provider to take my place. because i care about them and dont want them screwed over or ripped off. i want my gentlemen to be happy. I will miss them as i enjoy my retirement.. Sociopath, how about a gm of arestaurant that keeps a single mom hourly manager at a pay rate that she can not support her family barely above min wage and though this mgr works hard and gives it her all is insulted by gm for mistakes gm made. now that is a sociopath. the single mother being a provider to put food on her kids table because her pay is too low to do so, yeah no.

why should anyone on this site cast any stones?

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Old 03-30-2017, 08:48 AM   #83
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wow ..... wow....... Honestly, Providers should be respected a lot more. Providers provide a special experience that hobbyists are lacking in their lives. Each hobbyist is different as each provider is different. It has been my experience that many times, intimacy is more important than sex. Speaking for myself, though retired now, I gave my gentlemen, yes i said gentlemen, respect, I cared for each and every one of my regular hobbyists... There are some hobbyists I still consider friends... sociopath... them no, me, well that is still to be determined, lol. however, I guarantee, even being retired, if i contact any of my regular hobbyists, they would be there for me. Providers create friendships and fill a void in hobbyists lives. Granted this is not true of all hobbyists and providers, but it stands true with me and every one of my gentleman. exactly why i help search for the sub provider to take my place. because i care about them and dont want them screwed over or ripped off. i want my gentlemen to be happy. I will miss them as i enjoy my retirement.. Sociopath, how about a gm of arestaurant that keeps a single mom hourly manager at a pay rate that she can not support her family barely above min wage and though this mgr works hard and gives it her all is insulted by gm for mistakes gm made. now that is a sociopath. the single mother being a provider to put food on her kids table because her pay is too low to do so, yeah no.

why should anyone on this site cast any stones?

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Good point Paid ladies trying to make a living.Best wishes on retirement..Most paid professionals come back to business money good.Retirement ad good way to pick up business. BEST WISHES!
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actually i am not accepting appointments. i have made a previous attempt at retiring but this time i have an extremely important and special reason to continue retirement. a reason that is very precious and starting in june will occupy most of grandma's time. even the most adored hobbyists can't compete with this little bundle of joy. though we miss each other they all understand how precious this gift is to me. nothing can interfere with that. My precious grandson deserves a grandmother that is devoted to him. He is my world. I WILL NOT disappoint him or my son. I understand why people say I will not stay retired.... Aparrently they don't know me because that bundle of joy is all i need. I can't wait to see him and hold him and spoil him. I will always care for these gentlemen, but everyone of them support my decision.
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actually i am not accepting appointments. i have made a previous attempt at retiring but this time i have an extremely important and special reason to continue retirement. a reason that is very precious and starting in june will occupy most of grandma's time. even the most adored hobbyists can't compete with this little bundle of joy. though we miss each other they all understand how precious this gift is to me. nothing can interfere with that. My precious grandson deserves a grandmother that is devoted to him. He is my world. I WILL NOT disappoint him or my son. I understand why people say I will not stay retired.... Aparrently they don't know me because that bundle of joy is all i need. I can't wait to see him and hold him and spoil him. I will always care for these gentlemen, but everyone of them support my decision.
Are you marketing business with all posts on boards????????If your retire and grandma time.
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Thank you EveParadise!!
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My thoughts are that you are totally full of self imprortant shit and badly need to
find another hobby. Perhaps you are describing yourself and think every guy here is like you?
Good point
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You think any of this is exclusive to this business or some hobby thing? LOL. There are sociopaths, rapists, etc around every corner...

Just like many men and women whore themselves out... at least us hooks just call it what it is while the rest are in denial or are oblivious they are acting just like a whore.
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Just like many men and women whore themselves out... at least us hooks just call it what it is while the rest are in denial or are oblivious they are acting just like a whore.
What do you mean? Can you give an example?
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Just send her a bunch of money ...
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