Our company is dropping our group health plan

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Why would this be a lie ? It is a happening all across America.

because the tax code subsidizes employer-sponsored health insurance ...employer premium contributions are not considered taxable income, there's a substantial subsidy.



so a company that receives a substantial subsidy to provide healthcare for its employees kills the benefit that attracts employees, and loses subsidy income ...


sounds like a rightwinger runs the place.


oh yeah, if I'm not mistaken the op now qualifies for a subsidy because his employer wont provide ins ... so now he can get a better policy for himself for possibly less money

I suppose the employer is willing to pay the penalty for every employee he doesn't provide ins for isn't he?

cut employee benefits
lose tax subsidies
and pay a big penalty

yeah this stupid sob is deff a rightwinger

[lostincypress]

Employers have been looking for a way out of healthcare for many years. This is a convenient distraction to achieve their goals. Employees who do not receive the amount the company was paying as traditional compensation just got screwed big time. Years ago I was involved in union/company labor contract every three to five years. From the companies perspective we had X number of dollars....from the union perspective their job was to decide how they wanted it distributed....pay, holidays, retirement, healthcare...to best satisfy their members needs. The company, while interested in keeping employees satisfied with the ultimate outcome, was always limited by the X factor. If someone's company dumps healthcare they just put $10,000 to $20,000 per employee per year in their pocket. The tax exemption, which at times has been an issue, allows the employer to treat the expenditure as a business expense and is non taxable income to the employee. The wail over companies dumping employees because the penalty is cheaper is a straw man argument. There was no law that said they HAD to provide insurance to begin with.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

You guys suck so much Obama dick that you can't see that its fucking people over.

Pull the cock out of your mouth and he will take his hands off your ears.

+1

[Whirlaway]

It wasn't necessary for hundreds of thousands to lose insurance they had...........but Obama didn't give a shit about working Americans...

[Whirlaway]

Why do you assholes think GotYour6 is lying about this?

Are you so fucking brainwashed that you don't think this is happening across America ?

[Whirlaway]

This rant doesn't explain why you think Got is lying...............

Originally Posted by CJ7

because the tax code subsidizes employer-sponsored health insurance ...employer premium contributions are not considered taxable income, there's a substantial subsidy.



so a company that receives a substantial subsidy to provide healthcare for its employees kills the benefit that attracts employees, and loses subsidy income ...


sounds like a rightwinger runs the place.


oh yeah, if I'm not mistaken the op now qualifies for a subsidy because his employer wont provide ins ... so now he can get a better policy for himself for possibly less money

I suppose the employer is willing to pay the penalty for every employee he doesn't provide ins for isn't he?

cut employee benefits
lose tax subsidies
and pay a big penalty

yeah this stupid sob is deff a rightwinger

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

It wasn't necessary for hundreds of thousands to lose insurance they had...........but Obama didn't give a shit about working Americans...

. . . but Odumbo did promise "change" right before he also lyingly promised there would be no change.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

It wasn't necessary for hundreds of thousands to lose insurance they had...........but Obama didn't give a shit about working Americans...

the employer/employee portion of the law was delayed a full year until 2015 just to give employers extra time to prepare ..

speaking like a republican, if you lose your company insurance get off your lazy ass , quit whining, and get your own ... what are you a democrat?

[Whirlaway]

Like I said; Obamacare is the culprit not lazy ass employees..................... .

Unintended consequences are a bitch to liberals.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Like I said; Obamacare is the culprit not lazy ass employees..................... .

Unintended consequences are a bitch to liberals.

constant intended bitching is a way of life for republicans

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by CJ7

the employer/employee portion of the law was delayed a full year until 2015 just to give employers extra time to prepare ..

speaking like a republican, if you lose your company insurance get off your lazy ass , quit whining, and get your own ... what are you a democrat?

Odumbo looked America straight in the eye and promised: “If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.”

House minority leader Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) also lied when she pledged: “Keep your doctor, and your current plan, if you like them.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ichelle-malkin

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Why do you assholes think GotYour6 is lying about this?

Are you so fucking brainwashed that you don't think this is happening across America ?

Because one of my (friends) sent me this in a email today. He would never watch my six or you either.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

This is from our HR department you fucking idiots.

Then perhaps you should just follow your own advice.

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

If your employer is treating you like shit or under paying you leave and get another job.

[CJ7]

GY6 is a liar.

[Yssup Rider]

OCTOBER 1 IS TUESDAY!

The world ends then!

YOU WILL BE CALLED!

LMAO!