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Old 12-01-2011, 10:41 PM   #1
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Default New Hampshire GOP Speaker Discourages Students From Voting Because They’ll Vote ‘Liberal’

The slew of unnecessary voter ID laws passed by Republicans in many states this year are a transparent attempt to disenfranchise core Democratic voters, especially college students, the poor and minorities. But Republicans usually claim these laws are passed for the sake of curbing nonexistent voter fraud — it’s rare to have one admit their intention is to stop Democrats from getting to the polls. New Hampshire Speaker William O’Brien (R) told a Tea Party crowd recently. As the new laws are already stifling students’ efforts to participate politically, O’Brien confessed that he wanted to make it more difficult for students to vote because they “vote their feelings” — i.e. vote as liberals:
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Old 12-01-2011, 10:51 PM   #2
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Each election year, both parties try to outdo each other in the voter fraud department. It's become a tradition. Kinda like the Super Bowl.
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Old 12-02-2011, 05:48 AM   #3
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Each election year, both parties try to outdo each other in the voter fraud department. It's become a tradition. Kinda like the Super Bowl.

UMMM, CuteOldGAy, THEN WHY DO REPUBLICANS SUPPORT VOTER ID AND DUMBOCRAPS DO NOT?!..............HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND JUDGMENT ARE INADEQUATE.....THAT'S WHY YOU LOST ALL YOUR MONEY AND ARE A WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT....YOUR FAMILY WANTS TO BE RELIEVED OF THE BURDEN THAT IS YOU..........
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Old 12-02-2011, 06:04 AM   #4
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they “vote their feelings” — i.e. vote as liberals:
SEE? WHAT HAVE I BEEN SAYING?!

THEY DON'T THINK, THEY ONLY FEEL.....THEY VOTE AS THEIR LIBERAL TEACHERS INDOCRINATE THEM.......

THANK GOD THE INTERNET IS BREAKING THE LIBERAL GRIP ON THE MEDIA AND EDUCATION................
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Old 12-02-2011, 07:56 AM   #5
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Wow, next thing you know democrat controlled districts will fail to get absentee ballots out to military voters overseas because they overwhelmingly vote GOP.
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Old 12-02-2011, 08:27 AM   #6
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first thing republicans do when they gain power is to redistrict so dems can't have a chance.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:04 AM   #7
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first thing republicans do when they gain power is to redistrict so dems can't have a chance.
And the first thing Democrats do?????? Pot, meet Kettle.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:06 AM   #8
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Ever notice that any time there is a problem with voting, like remembering where to vote, how to vote, following simple procedures, showing some proof that you are who you say you are, and a multitude of other items, that it is always Democrats who are 'disinfranchised'.

Is "disinfranchised" becoming another definition of "stupid". So it seems.

"gimme my Obama Money". That says it all.
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I just don’t by the media and the Democrat’s claims that requiring a photo ID is going to limit voter participation in either demographic let alone just in the Democrat voters. What’s wrong with asking people to show ID? Frankly, there’s something off about a person that doesn’t have a government issued ID. Don’t they ever do any banking, driving, flying or go to the hospital, purchase real estate, have something notarized, have a job (to prove citizenship and show up for drug screening), etc? I have to show my ID all the time.

My daughter was taught, in no uncertain terms in college, that the former Soviet Union was not a communist country. Really? Imagine that. Here I thought I lived through the Cold War and knew who the enemy was. I was floored. She couldn’t understand why I got angry when she wanted to continue to rebut the fact that the Soviet Union was communist. So, yes, revisionist history and ideas are being taught at our institutions of higher learning.

Personally, I think 18 is too young to vote. If young people are too young to drink responsibly, then they are too young to vote. They’ve really not done enough living. It’s easy to be idealistic when you are safely tucked away in school while your parents or you trust fund is footing the bill. It’s another thing entirely to be out looking for a job you cannot get or working and paying bills. Responsibilities tend to change one’s point of view.

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first thing republicans do when they gain power is to redistrict so dems can't have a chance.
This happened to my congressman, Chris Bell, whom I really liked. Now I have a Republican that I really don’t care for: Culberson. I’ll vote for him next year probably since he’s fiscally conservative without being too socially conservative, but my heart won’t be in it.
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Old 12-02-2011, 09:47 AM   #10
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I just don’t by the media and the Democrat’s claims that requiring a photo ID is going to limit voter participation in either demographic let alone just in the Democrat voters. What’s wrong with asking people to show ID? Frankly, there’s something off about a person that doesn’t have a government issued ID. Don’t they ever do any banking, driving, flying or go to the hospital, purchase real estate, have something notarized, have a job (to prove citizenship and show up for drug screening), etc? I have to show my ID all the time.

My daughter was taught, in no uncertain terms in college, that the former Soviet Union was not a communist country. Really? Imagine that. Here I thought I lived through the Cold War and knew who the enemy was. I was floored. She couldn’t understand why I got angry when she wanted to continue to rebut the fact that the Soviet Union was communist. So, yes, revisionist history and ideas are being taught at our institutions of higher learning.

Personally, I think 18 is too young to vote. If young people are too young to drink responsibly, then they are too young to vote. They’ve really not done enough living. It’s easy to be idealistic when you are safely tucked away in school while your parents or you trust fund is footing the bill. It’s another thing entirely to be out looking for a job you cannot get or working and paying bills. Responsibilities tend to change one’s point of view.



This happened to my congressman, Chris Bell, whom I really liked. Now I have a Republican that I really don’t care for: Culberson. I’ll vote for him next year probably since he’s fiscally conservative without being too socially conservative, but my heart won’t be in it.
That isn't too surprising. The mantra of the left for decades has been that the Soviets weren't "real" communists, but that someday "they'd" get it right. Animal Farm was written by a communist as an indictment of the corrupt Soviet Union, of course what it proved was that the concept of communism is, corrupt.
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difference between liberals and conservatives
liberal-can find something good in bad news.
conservatives-can find something bad in good news
no I am a moderate
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Old 12-02-2011, 11:13 AM   #12
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liberal-can find something good in bad news.
conservatives-can find something bad in good news
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Dude that is so true- everythime I posted something good about Obama- Whirlway, JoeBloe and Marshall find something negative to say- I created a thread today talking about how the Public and Private sector added jobs- Joe Bloe responds that it wasn't good news because so many people have given up work- since when is the UE rate dropping not good news? I tell you these GOP followers are a bunch of sour grapes.
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That isn't too surprising. The mantra of the left for decades has been that the Soviets weren't "real" communists, but that someday "they'd" get it right. Animal Farm was written by a communist as an indictment of the corrupt Soviet Union, of course what it proved was that the concept of communism is, corrupt.
They can "say" anything they want to, but when people don't own stuff and the only employer is the State, then it's communism. Putting lipstick on a pig is still a pig in lipstick. And the Animal Farm mantra is just as conceptionally flawed as teaching revisionist history based on someone's desire for socialism to be a good idea.
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Old 12-02-2011, 12:52 PM   #14
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There's an interesting case out in California. A gentleman, who was in his eighties, tried to get a photo ID. The State of California denied him a photo ID because he couldn't produce his Social Security card, which he had lost some time ago. When he tried to get a replacement Social Security card, he was turned down because he couldn't produce a photo ID. Sounds like big government at work for me!
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There's an interesting case out in California. A gentleman, who was in his eighties, tried to get a photo ID. The State of California denied him a photo ID because he couldn't produce his Social Security card, which he had lost some time ago. When he tried to get a replacement Social Security card, he was turned down because he couldn't produce a photo ID. Sounds like big government at work for me!
This has actually happened to a lot of people who are elderly who were never required to show photo ID for voting until now. On top of that they have made it where students college ID's are not acceptable. Not all college students drive cars, and not all poor who do vote drive cars either.

It is naive to think it is so easy to get a state issued ID. It really is not if you are in some of these folks position. If you are poor and have no paperwork showing your birth certificate you are going to have problems as well.

Every state is different with regard to what is required to get a state ID.
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