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View Poll Results: Which of these 2 Amendments is the most abused
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10-01-2020, 08:30 AM
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9500- TWK is correct - You claim to be the violent, racist, marxist 'revolution' - but all One has is to sit on One's ass and type- keyboard pseudo warrior - and when the OBLM and Anti-Fa comes for You -9500- No One will speak for You. !
When harris send her brownshirt fascists racist for me - Thee will be a lage pile of dead DPST's in front of my cold- dead hands.
DPST's are fomenting and enabling Civil War in America - Be my guest - time for a lot of coffins for DPST violent 'revolutionaries' - armchair stupids who are being used by the DPST party.
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Awesome post oeb11. You are now on the record making yet another terroristic and seditious threat.
To quote the next POTUS — #JUSTSHUTUPMAN
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The goal post move all the time with the dim-wits liberal socialist , But the Free speech issue is big for them right now, you know TRUTH not allowed in the media
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10-01-2020, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by eccieuser9500
No. Brains supersede arms.
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You don't have either.
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10-01-2020, 09:21 AM
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10-01-2020, 09:32 AM
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10-01-2020, 11:56 AM
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Withut the Second amendment - there is no first Amendment
Citizens must protect themselves with a 'well armed militia" from over-bearing, controlling, Marxist governments - and the Second Amendment is what prevents the imposition of totalitarianism by the DPST's!
When the DPST riots, looting, assault, arson, and murders start teh night of Nov 3 - Lock and Load.
Natural Selection Time!!!!!
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10-01-2020, 12:34 PM
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Yes, the purpose of the 1st amendment, is to protect you against government retaliation for legal speech which doesn't include inciting a riot.
The "problem" as I see it, is that speech is being curtailed in places where it was celebrated in the past, namely College and Universities where now it seems, students are all for censoring speech that they don't like, that offends one group or another.
Big Tech. platforms are taking over the more traditional roles of newspapers, TV and radio news sources.
Imagine you only got your news from Facebook or Twitter and both decide that the words of a US Senator will not be printed for this or that reason and since you don't read the paper or listen to MSM, who may also have decided not to cover what the Senator said, you have no idea what the Senator said and whether it was worth hearing and considering.
So you may not be punished for your right to speak freely, the means of communicating may just decide that your speech is not worth hearing and when elected leaders start having their speech censored, that is a slippery slope in my opinion. ( Munchie )
So while it isn't directly related to the government, when speech starts to be censored by the major means of communications, that is an assault on free speech in my opinion.
The second amendment has all kinds of legal restrictions to the basic right to bear arms and to me, is a much more complicated issue where the government is indeed given more power to punish you for breaking their rules.
So the second amendment will have have more consequences to the citizen for violating it than the 1st
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10-01-2020, 05:13 PM
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Depends. Are we talking what the 1st Amendment actually is-- or what people think it is?
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Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter
Easily the 1st.
People simply don't understand it.
Reread Grace's post above.
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UC, grace nailed it!
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10-01-2020, 05:23 PM
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For DPST's - to whom the First amendment is anathema as is the Second - here is the first:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
And the fourteenth"
14th Amendment
Section 1
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section 2
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.
Section 3
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Section 4
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Section 5
The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
And - crucially - the Second Amendment:
Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
hundreds of liberal 'splody' heads going off.
Good - natural Selection improves the general health of the species!
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10-01-2020, 05:48 PM
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Totally correct above. The Second Amendment protects all the others!
Our Fore Fathers wanted to make it the First Amendment because of how important it is!
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10-01-2020, 05:51 PM
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There is some treacherous snitches behind their keyboards!
Makes me sick!!!!!!!!!
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10-01-2020, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by winn dixie
There are some treacherous snitches behind their keyboards!
Makes me sick!!!!!!!!!
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FIFY
Boink Boink Boink
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10-01-2020, 10:09 PM
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The 1st.
I doubt the Framers ever envisioned a Constitutionally protected Press being the Lackey of one political party.
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10-01-2020, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by winn dixie
There is some treacherous snitches behind their keyboards!
Makes me sick!!!!!!!!!
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ur worried about stitches?
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10-02-2020, 04:31 AM
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Shedang! That First ammendment thingy gets kinda pricey
And it's not like Kommiefornia doesn't have an immense budget shortfall as it is.
L.A. Ordered to Pay NRA Six Figures After Losing First Amendment Case
City will pay gun-rights group about $150,000 for lawsuit over unconstitutional ordinance.
A federal court ordered Los Angeles to hand over more than $100,000 to the National Rifle Association after ruling that the city had violated the gun-rights group's First Amendment rights.
Federal district court judge Stephen Wilson struck down a city ordinance aimed at punishing prospective contractors with ties to the NRA as an infringement on the right to free speech and association. On Tuesday, he ordered city officials to pay for the Second Amendment group's attorney fees, which totaled nearly $150,000...
Oh well, WTF? It's only other peoples money...
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10-02-2020, 06:11 AM
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ur worried about stitches?
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Nope. But if i had posted that, a certain person would have feared for his life behind a keyboard and rtm'ed the post!
Poor little snowflake!
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