NO means NO

[Guest062114-5]

Originally Posted by Old-T

I'm sorry, but that is dumb. Do you perform you job the same way for every customer? The world is YMMV.

Actually, I don't think it's dumb. I think he just means to either be a massage therapist or be a provider. Don't imply you're a Provider by advertising on Hooker websites, but then drop the YMMV card because you feel like it and deliver something totally different that one could go down the street and get at Massage Envy for $45.

Truth in advertising. LMC actually laid it out quite well from the other side.

Give the body rub, give the rub and tug, move on. If you want to do more...then don't but don't talk about it publicly and work out the details appropriately. That's YMMV.

[Fancylady]

Originally Posted by Old-T

I'm sorry, but that is dumb. Do you perform you job the same way for every customer? The world is YMMV.

Bad business Prostitutes bashing other prostitutes..Who cares not your business.

[roamingraider]

Originally Posted by Old-T

I'm sorry, but that is dumb. Do you perform you job the same way for every customer? The world is YMMV.

If you're FBSM then you're implying at minimum a rub and tug. If you go beyond that, it can vary with customers but there is ainmum expectation when advertising a sensual massage vs a regular massage.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by LilMynx69

Actually, I don't think it's dumb. I think he just means to either be a massage therapist or be a provider. Don't imply you're a Provider by advertising on Hooker websites, but then drop the YMMV card because you feel like it and deliver something totally different that one could go down the street and get at Massage Envy for $45.

Truth in advertising. LMC actually laid it out quite well from the other side.

Give the body rub, give the rub and tug, move on. If you want to do more...then don't but don't talk about it publicly and work out the details appropriately. That's YMMV.

Originally Posted by roamingraider

If you're FBSM then you're implying at minimum a rub and tug. If you go beyond that, it can vary with customers but there is ainmum expectation when advertising a sensual massage vs a regular massage.

I am not arguing for confusion in advertising. The advertising should be clear about what services go with what price. But I also believe a lady has the right to offer different service packages. Many of the same traits that make a good massage therapist also make a good escort. There are plenty of ladies in this business who started as MTs, and a number who went the other way. I have a wonderful friend who offers FBM, FBSM, GFE type sessions, and PSE type sessions. But her advertised price structure among them is clear. She is YMMV in the sense that at her discretion she might provide more than a guy or gal paid for, but I can't see where that should be an issue for anyone.

My objection was to the post saying a lady needs to offer only one type of service, FBM or FBSM. If they offer more than one, of course they should be clear. And if one guy does get YMMV extras for free, the next guy should not expect the same extras (which is why the first guy should NEVER mention them in a review if he knows he got extra).

[Little Miss Cuntcakes]

Originally Posted by roamingraider

Except in this case, NO means YMMV...
Either be a FBM or a FBSM.
If you're FBSM, then be that all the time.

Massage therapist - provider
Same thing- only difference is what we provide
FBM - FBSM
Same thing-the result at the end is the same

And I agree 100%with whomever said the world is YMMV
Speaking for MYSELF
Not every client is the same not every massage is the same.
Some will get extras-some won't. As of lately I do not offer the extras bc I have a S/O
Before then, I would offer only if I was comfortable doing so and the cleanliness of the client. I'm sorry but if it my clients junk looks like I need to summon an old priest and a young priest.. It ain't happening. He will still be "happy" when he leaves though.

No means no is a very strong statement.
One that should not be taken so lightly. There's a mutual trust we should have with one another. Weather it be full service or a bng
If the lady or gentleman decline a request or offer. It should be respected and left at that.
That's why screening is so important, NO ONE,not us or you guys want or need to be put in a situation where " no means no" can be used.

[Little Miss Cuntcakes]

Originally Posted by LilMynx69

Actually, I don't think it's dumb. I think he just means to either be a massage therapist or be a provider. Don't imply you're a Provider by advertising on Hooker websites, but then drop the YMMV card because you feel like it and deliver something totally different that one could go down the street and get at Massage Envy for $45.

Truth in advertising. LMC actually laid it out quite well from the other side.

Give the body rub, give the rub and tug, move on. If you want to do more...then don't but don't talk about it publicly and work out the details appropriately. That's YMMV.

@lil mynx EXACTLY!
Truth is advertising.
To me a client should never go in expecting more then what is advertised.
If you want to know if there is an extended menu--ask.
The therapist shouldn't get upset or offended, as neither the client should when he gets his answer. Regardless the client is still getting what he came in for.
Only time I think it would be an issue should be if the therapist doesn't do what she AGREES OR ADVERTISES she does... Or the client refuses to pay for services as he agreed to pay for. Things of seriousness. Not pettiness. That goes for both client/provider
Other than that WHO FUCKING CARES!?
You got extra. Awesome! You didn't get your bootyhole played with? Damn, that sucks bro.
It's not a big deal.. Remember What she won't do, another will..
&& On to the next one....

[roamingraider]

Originally Posted by Little Miss Cuntcakes

Massage therapist - provider
Same thing- only difference is what we provide
FBM - FBSM
Same thing-the result at the end is the same

I 100% disagree... just my opinion, but if you advertise FBSM, that S stands for sensual or sexual and there is an implication that in one way or another, you'll be getting your rocks off.
Now that doesn't mean she'll do it the way you want or go as far you want... but it does mean you're getting your jollies.

[Little Miss Cuntcakes]

Originally Posted by roamingraider

I 100% disagree... just my opinion, but if you advertise FBSM, that S stands for sensual or sexual and there is an implication that in one way or another, you'll be getting your rocks off.
Now that doesn't mean she'll do it the way you want or go as far you want... but it does mean you're getting your jollies.

It still goes back to advertising. If she's advertising on a site such as backpage of Eccie then she's idicating sexual contact or happy ending. Price is also an indication of "happy ending"
Now if she advertised in medical rehab for thingamabobs and charge 40$ for 90min that would also indicate that you there will be no fun

This is how I see it
Fbm- you want the actual therapeutic massage maybe some deep tissue with hand release in the end

FBSM - light touch, lots of Swedish, caressing and more of your body brushing up against him with hand release in end.

I will always start with light touch and ask if the pressure is ok.
Most of the time I end up really working lol
But you get what I'm saying?

[roamingraider]

Originally Posted by Little Miss Cuntcakes

I will always start with light touch and ask if the pressure is ok.
Most of the time I end up really working lol
But you get what I'm saying?

No I don't get it... I think you should break it down in much more detail...

[Little Miss Cuntcakes]

Originally Posted by roamingraider

No I don't get it... I think you should break it down in much more detail...

Hahaha Or you could come in for a session and I could show you
ijs