Who is your typical hobbyist?

[Bigfish9111]

May I ask why you are a hobbyist? You must be not married. Either that or you are trolling.

[gentlemantoo]

No, I am not married. No big surprise, lol. I have been married one time, had kids, whole family thing.

I only describe my thoughts, for me. Each has his own reasons. If you have not found the love I found, sorry to hear that. If you did find that same love you would understand. If you do not have it, look at your wife and work towards it, you are the man and the natural leader, as such take the first step and be persistent. If in time she does not respond back with love and fulfillment, leave her, she is not for you. I know that sounds scary but your wives treat ypu the way they do because you are allowing it. But shower her with love and attention, the same way you did when you first dated her. Give her spme time to respond. If she does not you can sit her down and tell her you are doing your part, if she continues to neglect you, the result is that you feel unloved and you will have to end the relationship if that does not change. Thats what I would have done. I was very lucky to have the woman I had and we never had those problems because we loved each other.

[gentlemantoo]

I usually do not respond, but I am missing my love and if I can help another get what she and I had, I will share my thoughts. I mean no disrespect to anyone.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by gentlemantoo

The typical hobbyist is much like the typical provider, and can be summed up in one word- selfish. Each man here is going to get HIS needs satisfied, does not matter who it hurts, his wife, children, etc. If he would tend to his family's needs as much as he tended to his own, he would have a very happy family and a very happy life. Every man here, me as well, is here because something was missing in their life, sex, touch, whatever, instead of looking outside the family he should look to those closest to him. If he.showered his.wife with love and attention, she would naturally want to please him as well. But this way.seems easier to blow a load on a woman's face even if that act destroys all trust in his marriage, a betrayal of what society once considered sacred vows. Selfish.

Why do some folks feel obliged to make moral value judges on people whose situations they don't know? "Selfish" because you ASSUME so many things that may or may not be true?

I will agree that in many cases there is a degree of self-interest on the part of the man, but that was true when I spent a few extra dollars on a fine pastry tonight. I didn't NEED it, I WANTED it. I did indeed ENJOY it. The $6 I spent on it in no way deprived myself or anyone else of anything significant--it was a self-indulgence out of my "excess".

If I decide to spend time with a lady from here--or from anywhere else--that does not imply I am hurting a spouse, depriving children, setting a bad example for a neighborhood kindergarten.

Not everyone is married.

And to be direct, even for those who are married, your condemnation is, in my opinion, out of place. The world and the human condition is far, far from black and white. Most of us live in a reality that is some shade of gray.

The most obvious example I know is a gentleman whose wife developed early onset dementia along with some other medical problems. He eventually placed her in a nursing home, took a major cut in income to change jobs so he didn't need to travel so he could visit her every day. I can attest that some days she wasn't sure who he was. Those close to him said he should divorce her but he would not.

But he also spent time with escorts.

If you call that "selfish", I will respectfully disagree with you. His case may well be more extreme, but it is not at all unique in the essential elements.

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Are you turning into Wakeup?

Nope. I am only one of the many voices in the Padre's decaying head ... RIP....

Originally Posted by Ed Highlight

I have long suspected that Pyramider and Wakeup are the same person!! I have never seen the two of them together in the same room!!

You have never seen me in a room with countless thousands of fucktards either.

[DSK]

Originally Posted by gentlemantoo

No, I am not married. No big surprise, lol. I have been married one time, had kids, whole family thing.

I only describe my thoughts, for me. Each has his own reasons. If you have not found the love I found, sorry to hear that. If you did find that same love you would understand. If you do not have it, look at your wife and work towards it, you are the man and the natural leader, as such take the first step and be persistent. If in time she does not respond back with love and fulfillment, leave her, she is not for you. I know that sounds scary but your wives treat ypu the way they do because you are allowing it. But shower her with love and attention, the same way you did when you first dated her. Give her spme time to respond. If she does not you can sit her down and tell her you are doing your part, if she continues to neglect you, the result is that you feel unloved and you will have to end the relationship if that does not change. Thats what I would have done. I was very lucky to have the woman I had and we never had those problems because we loved each other.

Sounds reasonable to me.

[OneStarLuck07]

Originally Posted by gentlemantoo

I usually do not respond, but I am missing my love and if I can help another get what she and I had, I will share my thoughts. I mean no disrespect to anyone.

Sorry for losing your love. Can't imagine what you are going through.

Reminds me I need to hug, kiss, and tell my wife I love her before I go to bed.

I really have no idea why I'm here. If you knew me, it makes no sense, but it sure is fun.

[OneStarLuck07]

Originally Posted by gentlemantoo

I usually do not respond, but I am missing my love and if I can help another get what she and I had, I will share my thoughts. I mean no disrespect to anyone.

Sorry for losing your love. Can't imagine what you are going through.

Reminds me I need to hug, kiss, and tell my wife I love her before I go to bed.

I really have no idea why I'm here. If you knew me, it makes no sense, but it sure is fun.

[Guest122317-1]

Originally Posted by Bigfish9111

I have found that sugar dating might be a great alternative. In particular from a legal prespective. I may post on the legal boards to get some perspective.

I am going to repeat some very good advice about sugar...don't do it......

[Guest122317-1]

Originally Posted by nkdwhtguy

Well, I am a married white guy, 60. Had a spicy sex life with my gorgeous wife until she became ill. Went 4 years without sex until I decided I deserved a release every once in a while. I like being with 3 or 4 favorites rather than looking for variety, I also enjoy being with more mature women. I found that the lack of intimate touch is just as strong a motivator than lack of actual sex.

Yes I can sure relate to that I to am not looking to see multiple ladies I do mostly because they travel. I have been told a lot by other clients that I view the ladies wrong and my personality isnt the kind that someone in the hobby should have and I shouldnt be in the hobby as a client I... It was sixteen years without intimacy or sex before I finally decided and joined the hobby. I realized if I was to enjoy the physical companionship it was the only way without dissrupting my life and family. I realized that one day very soon I wouldn't be able to physically enjoy that part of life so I either had to start now or forever accept my life the way it was. Taking care of business by myself just didn't have the same effect as being with someone enjoyong casual moments of closeness that I get from intimacy the quiet conversations, the snuggling the sweet caresses as the moment builds. The gentleness the release.
God bless these angels of mercy they allow me the illusion that i still have the looks of youth that have left me a long time ago and allows me the dignity to still feel like an attractive man.

[Buying a *Way to Heaven]

Originally Posted by gentlemantoo

The typical hobbyist is much like the typical provider, and can be summed up in one word- selfish. Each man here is going to get HIS needs satisfied, does not matter who it hurts, his wife, children, etc. If he would tend to his family's needs as much as he tended to his own, he would have a very happy family and a very happy life. Every man here, me as well, is here because something was missing in their life, sex, touch, whatever, instead of looking outside the family he should look to those closest to him. If he.showered his.wife with love and attention, she would naturally want to please him as well. But this way.seems easier to blow a load on a woman's face even if that act destroys all trust in his marriage, a betrayal of what society once considered sacred vows. Selfish.

Bitch face it you fucked up your marriage and drove him to buying pussy. Trolling this site pretending to be a hobbyist is not accomplishing anything but embarrassing yourself.

[Hooliganmike23]

I mostly fall into the "typical" category. I am white, 42 but divorced. Part of the reason of the divorce was we became incompatible sexually. I do this out of desire, not out of necessity. I have had more than my share of girl friends and ladies to have sex with that I didn't pay for, at least in the sense of it being a business transaction. But a lot of those situations end up fucked up in some way or another. Me wanting a relationship and they didn't, or vice versa. Some I just viewed as bat shit crazy and I didn't want to deal with the drama just to have sex.

Also, I love the variety of this hobby. It has allowed me to be with women that would probably be out of my league otherwise. 20 years ago maybe not, but I know the reality of the situation. Not many hot 20 somethings would fuck a guy 20 years older than them if not for the money. I can accept that and even embrace it. I would say about half of my hobbying is with a few regulars who I click with very well. The other half goes to trying out new ladies. It is hard to beat the excitement of the anticipation of being with someone new. I love to have sex and this hobby allows me to do that pretty much when I please without all the baggage that can go with it.

[joesmo888]

got into the hobby because I wasn't getting what I wanted in my relationship sexually, although I loved everything else. I think that is the reason 95% of guys do it.

[Clark W. Griswold]

I am not married, do not have a girlfriend and am not even dating at the moment. As a matter of fact my last girl messed around on me. Cheating goes both ways. While in a relationship I have always been faithful. I am in my mid 30's.

[Guest030824]

Widowed and in my 70s After almost 50 years of marriage and all of those years faithful as an old hound dog. After my wife passed on I was lost in my self. My kids set me down and told me to get off my ass and do something. I tried AM and discovered it was a rip off. After finding ECCIE from some one I have discovered a great way to stay youthful. My children know what I am doing and approve of the hook ups that I find. I petty much stay with a couple of ladies with the occasional new woman. I have met some great people (men and women) through the hobby. One I dated for several years until she retired. I have my ATFs that I keep going to . I have reached my "use by date" and still like to get together with several women just for the companionship.