GFE and what It is REALLY about

[seductivestorm]

I was asked by the ladies of Sexwork Twitter to share this here as well in the National area so that the Gents can also see it so we can come to some better understanding.

I hope this helps.
I posted it here and on my personal website after the frustration of dealing w clients who have a misconstrued notion of the idea that this will be the same w every companion.

enjoy!

The REAL definition of Girlfriend Experience(My Thoughts)

The true meaning of the girlfriend experience date.. is the following. This definition was the original definition of it from the courtesan, provider stand point prior to male "hobbyists,customers" trying to adjust it to suit their needs!

Girlfriend experience is a very PERSONAL experience, it entails a warmth, a connection between the client and the provider. Its conversation, possibly dinner, breakfast ( possibly) , it involves more foreplay , more intimate touch,(DATY may or may not be allowed, often it is) It is usually non rush, there are still time constraints but you are made to feel totally unaware.

The idea of the girlfriend experience is to provide the affection, company and passion that the client may be seeking in his 'real" life. In other words it is not the same as the just come in and get straight to business , more cold, more time oriented basic appointment.

Please keep in mind that no two women are alike even as real life girlfriends, some women do NOT enjoy DFK kissing even in their real lives so to say all women doing GFE need to offer this and that,, ( a checklist) is insane! The fundamental premise that must be met to be GFE is simply put the non rush, friendly, NATURAL feeling connection. Less business feeling and more Human feeling .. period.

Being GFE does NOT mean I or any girl needs to do uncovered, bare , non safe acts.

The following things are not, SHOULD not be guaranteed in your thinking of GFE men, DEEP TONGUE KISSING, BARE ORAL, BARE ANYTHING.

Those things are REAL LIFE GIRLFRIEND things. Not intimacy with a stranger things. My suggestion to you if you want unsafe ,bodily fluid things is to get a REAL life girlfriend.


Storm
http://www.seductivestorm.net

[Guest062317-1]

Yes!!

[Skittlez]

The following things are not, SHOULD not be guaranteed in your thinking of GFE men, DEEP TONGUE KISSING, BARE ORAL, BARE ANYTHING.

Those things are REAL LIFE GIRLFRIEND things. Not intimacy with a stranger things. My suggestion to you if you want unsafe ,bodily fluid things is to get a REAL life girlfriend.

So that is indeed the issue... Look again at what you stated above -- you are trying to define away the 'girlfriend' part of GFE

Many guys want a (hobby world) 'GF' experience. That is what they are looking for and what they expect. If you don't offer that -- that's fine.

Just offer what you offer, but don't call it GFE - because it isn't.


Maybe call it SIPE (safe intimate provider experience)... that would be more accurate and there's nothing wrong with that.

[EternalJoy]

Yes, Yes. This man ask me do I like to kiss but he wanted me to go to a public area to watch him lick a dirty toilet seat. Who wants to kiss you dude. Others are eating boodie and everything else and think someone is going to kiss them. Not going to happen.

[seductivestorm]

Originally Posted by Skittlez

So that is indeed the issue... Look again at what you stated above -- you are trying to define away the 'girlfriend' part of GFE

Many guys want a (hobby world) 'GF' experience. That is what they are looking for and what they expect. If you don't offer that -- that's fine.

Just offer what you offer, but don't call it GFE - because it isn't.


Maybe call it SIPE (safe intimate provider experience)... that would be more accurate and there's nothing wrong with that.

First Girlfriend Experience was first more or less the definition I just quoted and has been written about recently by a true sexwork blogger.

Her thoughts as well as many ladies is the same as mine. The original def of it had nothing to do with tongues down our throats. I have been told by MANY of my clients and it has been written about me that I am very GFE in demeanor and how I treat my guests.

Thats without DFK etc. Also as it stated at the beginning .. its My MY version of GFE.

And I am very much GFE in how I handle GFE sessions. It is about affection, kindness, genuine compassion and passion. I can be quite all of those things without needing a tongue hitting the back of my throat and without unsafe play.

I have a real life boyfriend and even me and him who have been together 8 yrs now didnt participate in anything bare till 3 yrs in.

GFE is about the experience, not a checklist.

BTW I am not some newbie companion been in biz since 2001.

Have a Great Day!

Storm

[Old-T]

I agree with your point the "GFE" does indeed reflect upon an attitude more than a list of activities--but as you have already discovered, there are some guys who feel they are empowered to dictate a checklist definition on an essentially undefined term.

Good luck. I hope most the spears thrown your way fall far short.

Originally Posted by seductivestorm

I was asked by the ladies of Sexwork Twitter to share this here as well in the National area so that the Gents can also see it so we can come to some better understanding.

I hope this helps.
I posted it here and on my personal website after the frustration of dealing w clients who have a misconstrued notion of the idea that this will be the same w every companion.

enjoy!

The REAL definition of Girlfriend Experience(My Thoughts)

The true meaning of the girlfriend experience date.. is the following. This definition was the original definition of it from the courtesan, provider stand point prior to male "hobbyists,customers" trying to adjust it to suit their needs!

Girlfriend experience is a very PERSONAL experience, it entails a warmth, a connection between the client and the provider. Its conversation, possibly dinner, breakfast ( possibly) , it involves more foreplay , more intimate touch,(DATY may or may not be allowed, often it is) It is usually non rush, there are still time constraints but you are made to feel totally unaware.

The idea of the girlfriend experience is to provide the affection, company and passion that the client may be seeking in his 'real" life. In other words it is not the same as the just come in and get straight to business , more cold, more time oriented basic appointment.

Please keep in mind that no two women are alike even as real life girlfriends, some women do NOT enjoy DFK kissing even in their real lives so to say all women doing GFE need to offer this and that,, ( a checklist) is insane! The fundamental premise that must be met to be GFE is simply put the non rush, friendly, NATURAL feeling connection. Less business feeling and more Human feeling .. period.

Being GFE does NOT mean I or any girl needs to do uncovered, bare , non safe acts.

The following things are not, SHOULD not be guaranteed in your thinking of GFE men, DEEP TONGUE KISSING, BARE ORAL, BARE ANYTHING.

Those things are REAL LIFE GIRLFRIEND things. Not intimacy with a stranger things. My suggestion to you if you want unsafe ,bodily fluid things is to get a REAL life girlfriend.


Storm
http://www.seductivestorm.net

Originally Posted by seductivestorm

First Girlfriend Experience was first more or less the definition I just quoted and has been written about recently by a true sexwork blogger.

Her thoughts as well as many ladies is the same as mine. The original def of it had nothing to do with tongues down our throats. I have been told by MANY of my clients and it has been written about me that I am very GFE in demeanor and how I treat my guests.

Thats without DFK etc. Also as it stated at the beginning .. its My MY version of GFE.

And I am very much GFE in how I handle GFE sessions. It is about affection, kindness, genuine compassion and passion. I can be quite all of those things without needing a tongue hitting the back of my throat and without unsafe play.

I have a real life boyfriend and even me and him who have been together 8 yrs now didnt participate in anything bare till 3 yrs in.

GFE is about the experience, not a checklist.

BTW I am not some newbie companion been in biz since 2001.

Have a Great Day!

Storm

[bamscram]

Does your BF get a GFE ?

[seductivestorm]

Originally Posted by bamscram

Does your BF get a GFE ?

He gets more.. WITH me hence why we are still together.. lol

[seductivestorm]

I think I should be clear. Other ladies enjoyed this explanation and asked me to post it here due to their being so many issues amongst men and women in regard to it.

I am quite open on my website in regard to how my GFE is done, and even more clear in my FAQ in regard to my likes and dislikes.

The men I see and spend GFE type time with , I almost consider friends. We go on to email, text phone keep in touch. I build genuine connections as friends w them. Still business but w much more mutual respect than the non GFE guys.

So for me and evidently for many since I have been asked to post it and since sexwork Twitter even for the most part agrees , I stand by what I said and If you read it on my actual site I have attached two links of others with similar definitions.

The point is ITS NOT ABOUT A CHECKLIST, it is about the experience and each provider is different. But so long as it is a feeling, genuine, more connected experience than just "bend me over" and so long as shes not rushing you.. In other words if you leave her feeling like it was passion with a friend and you were not just treated like a "trick or john" then she did her part.

please see my site and you'll see the two other online opinions attached to my GFE def.

http://www.seductivestorm.net/gifts

Have a great day!!

[craig151]

Originally Posted by Skittlez

So that is indeed the issue... Look again at what you stated above -- you are trying to define away the 'girlfriend' part of GFE

Many guys want a (hobby world) 'GF' experience. That is what they are looking for and what they expect. If you don't offer that -- that's fine.

Just offer what you offer, but don't call it GFE - because it isn't.


Maybe call it SIPE (safe intimate provider experience)... that would be more accurate and there's nothing wrong with that.

That's where you fucked up man. "Hobby world" ??? That's where your mind lives????? Sad.

I live in the world. No need for me as an adult man who LOVES the company of women to identify my love for women as a "Hobby" or "XYZ" to validate my *considering her time and gifting her. Hobby is a square, hiding behind a computer to whack off on reviews term to make non-normal clients feel, welp, normal.

Does marking your "GFE" Checklist make you feel good? I don't walk in with that. I walk in wanting an experience. Its about how my admirable lady of choice makes me feel NOT just physically but emotionally/mentally connecting.

Get real, any gal can swap spit with a "hobbyist" and dread it in her mind. I'd MUCH prefer for US to take our time, connect, and not hear some bullshit moans and wannabe pornstar groans while you fuck her hole with no rhythm or connection. IOP? Fuck that. I'll take a multiple hour or overnight for GP - add that acronym to your "hobby" bs. It stands for genuine passion. Oh. Wait. Ya can't. "Hobbyists" just love to over analyze the use of using a woman as a blowup doll and wonder why the session sucked... Something to get their rocks off if an exaggerated, title in all caps review didn't make them nut.

Lets separate the locker boy blue ball having "Hobbyist" from normal men who need no title to validate them spending time with a gorgeous woman. I'm a man. Not a "Hobbyist" dude.

[seductivestorm]

Originally Posted by craig151

That's where you fucked up man. "Hobby world" ??? That's where your mind lives????? Sad.

I live in the world. No need for me as an adult man who LOVES the company of women to identify my love for women as a "Hobby" or "XYZ" to validate my *considering her time and gifting her. Hobby is a square, hiding behind a computer to whack off on reviews term to make non-normal clients feel, welp, normal.

Does marking your "GFE" Checklist make you feel good? I don't walk in with that. I walk in wanting an experience. Its about how my admirable lady of choice makes me feel NOT just physically but emotionally/mentally connecting.

Get real, any gal can swap spit with a "hobbyist" and dread it in her mind. I'd MUCH prefer for US to take our time, connect, and not hear some bullshit moans and wannabe pornstar groans while you fuck her hole with no rhythm or connection. IOP? Fuck that. I'll take a multiple hour or overnight for GP - add that acronym to your "hobby" bs. It stands for genuine passion. Oh. Wait. Ya can't. "Hobbyists" just love to over analyze the use of using a woman as a blowup doll and wonder why the session sucked... Something to get their rocks off if an exaggerated, title in all caps review didn't make them nut.

Lets separate the locker boy blue ball having "Hobbyist" from normal men who need no title to validate them spending time with a gorgeous woman. I'm a man. Not a "Hobbyist" dude.

STANDING up in the middle of my bedroom CHEERING. I might add I really didn't expect such a passionately worded explanation from the male side!

Kudo's to you sir! Need more gentlemen such as you!

Muah

Storm

[burkalini]

Originally Posted by craig151

That's where you fucked up man. "Hobby world" ??? That's where your mind lives????? Sad.

I live in the world. No need for me as an adult man who LOVES the company of women to identify my love for women as a "Hobby" or "XYZ" to validate my *considering her time and gifting her. Hobby is a square, hiding behind a computer to whack off on reviews term to make non-normal clients feel, welp, normal.

Does marking your "GFE" Checklist make you feel good? I don't walk in with that. I walk in wanting an experience. Its about how my admirable lady of choice makes me feel NOT just physically but emotionally/mentally connecting.

Get real, any gal can swap spit with a "hobbyist" and dread it in her mind. I'd MUCH prefer for US to take our time, connect, and not hear some bullshit moans and wannabe pornstar groans while you fuck her hole with no rhythm or connection. IOP? Fuck that. I'll take a multiple hour or overnight for GP - add that acronym to your "hobby" bs. It stands for genuine passion. Oh. Wait. Ya can't. "Hobbyists" just love to over analyze the use of using a woman as a blowup doll and wonder why the session sucked... Something to get their rocks off if an exaggerated, title in all caps review didn't make them nut.

Lets separate the locker boy blue ball having "Hobbyist" from normal men who need no title to validate them spending time with a gorgeous woman. I'm a man. Not a "Hobbyist" dude.

Perfect reply for the Provider. She gets more money from you and has to do less work. All GFE is an ACT. They are not our girlfriends. If you spend more time and money on them they are happy in that they make more MONEY. Get off your I'm a man blsht. Your just a guy who PAYS more than most. This is a business transaction. No more no less. I love it when things go well and I enjoy the experience but don't think your superior to a guy that says this is what I like and this is what I will pay. Your white knight blsht attitude just means your not getting it in the real world.

[seductivestorm]

Originally Posted by burkalini

Perfect reply for the Provider. She gets more money from you and has to do less work. All GFE is an ACT. They are not our girlfriends if you spend more time and money on them they are happy in that they make more MONEY. Get off your I'm a man blsht. Your just a guy who PAYS more than most. This is a business transaction. No more no less. I love it when things go well and I enjoy the experience but don't think your superior to a guy that says this is what I like and this is what I will pay. Your white knight blsht attitude just means your not getting it in the real world.

In what universe is providing A MORE personal , usually over an hour long, somewhat emotionally involved session LESS WORK.

I disagree a real GFE a girl who is truly allowing the personal , genuine connection and getting to really know her date, possibly spending hours w him or even if its just one hour the gfe provider providing real companionship and an EXPERIENCE is doing way more work especially mentally than the one whos just bending over or dropping to her knees and then not allowing a non rushed experience.

GFE, and Fetish companions work far harder than you can imagine. Mental work is still work.

be well!

[Yorick459]

Originally Posted by seductivestorm

I was asked by the ladies of Sexwork Twitter to share this here as well in the National area....The REAL definition of Girlfriend Experience(My Thoughts)
.......much blabbage snipped.........
The following things are not, SHOULD not be guaranteed in your thinking of GFE men, DEEP TONGUE KISSING, BARE ORAL, BARE ANYTHING.

Those things are REAL LIFE GIRLFRIEND things. Not intimacy with a stranger things. My suggestion to you if you want unsafe ,bodily fluid things is to get a REAL life girlfriend.


Storm
http://www.seductivestorm.net

You have just made the term GFE meaningless. A cold hug and a peck on the lips would, by your definition, still qualify as GFE.

Most of the guys here have had girlfriends. So....we know what it is like to have an open-minded girlfriend when neither one of us wants the girl to get pregnant. This means French Kissing, uncovered oral on him and her, and covered full vaginal sex. Some of us had very wild girlfriends, but didn't like poop on our pee-pees, so an option could include covered anal sex....but an option only.

GFE should be like having a girlfriend. Otherwise, it is not GFE.

Now, my dog licked me on the lips, once, when I was sleeping....but I can promise you I've never licked a toilet seat. But, if you are afraid I (or anyone else you see) engage in this practice, you are well within your rights to refuse such service. But, don't call it GFE, because it is not.

By the way.....are you 100% certain your real boyfriend does not lick toilet seats....or worse? Just askin'.

[seductivestorm]

Originally Posted by Yorick459

You have just made the term GFE meaningless. A cold hug and a peck on the lips would, by your definition, still qualify as GFE.

Most of the guys here have had girlfriends. So....we know what it is like to have an open-minded girlfriend when neither one of us wants the girl to get pregnant. This means French Kissing, uncovered oral on him and her, and covered full vaginal sex. Some of us had very wild girlfriends, but didn't like poop on our pee-pees, so an option could include covered anal sex....but an option only.

GFE should be like having a girlfriend. Otherwise, it is not GFE.

Now, my dog licked me on the lips, once, when I was sleeping....but I can promise you I've never licked a toilet seat. But, if you are afraid I (or anyone else you see) engage in this practice, you are well within your rights to refuse such service. But, don't call it GFE, because it is not.

By the way.....are you 100% certain your real boyfriend does not lick toilet seats....or worse? Just askin'.

FIRST OF ALL .. sir and I use the term lightly, I am not the one who mentioned toilet seats. So please direct your comments to me to include only what I spoke of.

I kiss my boyfriend with closed mouth but my GOD do I make up for it in other ways. GFE again does NOT have to include a checklist so long as I am still providing intimacy, and passion, I am sure plenty of men and women can have passion without putting tongue down each others throats as an example.


My boyfriend is actually pretty OCD so yeah I do know hes not even touching toilet seats.

The original beginnings of GFE services and its orgins WERE NOT about the checklist of acts it was again since you don't seem to understand the EXPERIENCE. What I and other ladies like me provide is very much girlfriend experience due to the level of connection, cuddling and other extras based SOLELY upon personal decision.

An excellent article that I think many of you would benefit reading from

https://realsexindustry.wordpress.co...nd-experience/


She really hits in on the head.

Take care!