GFE and what It is REALLY about

[seductivestorm]

Originally Posted by seductivestorm

FIRST OF ALL .. sir and I use the term lightly, I am not the one who mentioned toilet seats. So please direct your comments to me to include only what I spoke of.

I kiss my boyfriend with closed mouth but my GOD do I make up for it in other ways. GFE again does NOT have to include a checklist so long as I am still providing intimacy, and passion, I am sure plenty of men and women can have passion without putting tongue down each others throats as an example.


My boyfriend is actually pretty OCD so yeah I do know hes not even touching toilet seats.

The original beginnings of GFE services and its orgins WERE NOT about the checklist of acts it was again since you don't seem to understand the EXPERIENCE. What I and other ladies like me provide is very much girlfriend experience due to the level of connection, cuddling and other extras based SOLELY upon personal decision.

An excellent article that I think many of you would benefit reading from

https://realsexindustry.wordpress.co...nd-experience/


She really hits in on the head.

Take care!

ALSO this from wikipedia ( which is almost the same as my definition as well)The most important part of GFE what makes it GFE IS the overall connection and experience and it being more than just purely sexual in the interaction.. period..

from WIKIPEDIA

The girlfriend experience (GFE) is a commercial experience that blurs the boundaries between a financial transaction and a romantic relationship. Within the sex industry, GFE is a common term for a sexual encounter in which both the escort and the client are willing to engage in reciprocal sexual pleasure and some degree of emotional intimacy.[1] The "girlfriend experience" generally involves more personal interaction than a traditional call girl or escort offers; it varies widely from person to person, however. There is a focus on not just having sex, but also having more of a comprehensive experience.[2] Within this particular realm of sex work, prostitutes embody a sense of authenticity in order to make the experience more pleasurable for their customer, as well as to make a more lucrative outcome for themselves

[Guest122317-1]

For me at least you said it exactly the way I see it. Its the connection as far as dfk well I do like kissing not so much dfl but light butterfly kisses.

[seductivestorm]

Originally Posted by wendlo

For me at least you said it exactly the way I see it. Its the connection as far as dfk well I do like kissing not so much dfl but light butterfly kisses.

Yes I do not think its insane to expect some type of kiss. I just know that Lingering Lip kisses, can be just as if not more romantic than the tongue to the back of the tonsils high school kiss.

I can deep kiss anyone and still have ZERO connection conveyed during the session. GFE is and always needs to be about the connection and leaving a truly memorable experience in the gents head.

[Guest122317-1]

Originally Posted by seductivestorm

Yes I do not think its insane to expect some type of kiss. I just know that Lingering Lip kisses, can be just as if not more romantic than the tongue to the back of the tonsils high school kiss.

I can deep kiss anyone and still have ZERO connection conveyed during the session. GFE is and always needs to be about the connection and leaving a truly memorable experience in the gents head.

Absolutely...for me it's all about the connection..relaxed seductive the moment..I am older tonsil kissing just doesn't do it for me ..the relaxed enjoyable moments..start slow connect let it build to the mind blowing cresendo. The activities are fun and nice and you get the release but without the connection its just an act without any real feeling ..just like a bj..dont rush treat it as if your a.kitten with its new toy.. Take time to enjoy each othe feel the warmth of each othe laugh share let it build.the cuddling the closeness let the whole experience be natural, dinner out or breakfast some of my more memorable visits were so relaxed and natural that we almost didn't have time for deserts..lol lol

[cybiotic]

As Asian, Let me elaborate. GFE does NOT mean anything sexual. It means, "Will the GFE be willing to give me relevant tips on my GF?"

[gentlemantoo]

GFE is a marketing term. Women say they are GFE to attract customers that desire sex in a softer and more generic style. That is easier work for the lady. There is no compassion nor passion in any session, there is faked passion and acting. And that is part of that attitude of GFE but it is also about the checklist. What guy pays $300 to sit and get to know the lady? Zero, all of the consumwrs are paying for some sex act, period. What sex acts are important if a man likes DFK he does not call on ladies that do not do that, if she is only CBJ I will never call her. I got one CBJ, not from a girlfriend, not from a wife, not from someone that I did not have to pay. I got it from a provider. Hated the experience, so if the lady I date.next tells me she is only CBJ and will not do bareback 3 years, I am out the door, our sex lives will not be compatible.

GFE in an ad is completely meaningless to me. I read reviews for the activities I like and then decide.

The way I find a lady to see is first by her pics, am I attracted to her? Then next is menu items, BBBJ, CIM, MSOG,foreplay a must for me. When that is satisified next is price. In my experience by the fourth time seeing same lady we are getting more comfortable and seems she is not.acting as much, now nust faking orgasms but not acting that she likes football anymore during pillow talk, lol.

GFE is just an attempt to make lonely guys feel like they are really liked, lol. She likes your cash not you. A man is not a stud by being with a provider, lol. It is business for her and a release for him.

What baffles me is where some women offer less service but charge same price??? You do not do DFK hence less service why would I pay same price for another woman that does DFK? Well me I don't but baffles me that others do.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by Yorick459

You have just made the term GFE meaningless. A cold hug and a peck on the lips would, by your definition, still qualify as GFE.
Hard to make a term meaningless when there is no agreed upon definition. And by YOUR definition a very uninspired physical performance filled with yawns, watching the clock, and checking text messages WOULD qualify as a GFE so long as she does:
French Kissing, uncovered oral on him and her, and covered full vaginal sex.

GFE should be like having a girlfriend. Otherwise, it is not GFE.
And I hate to inform you, there are a lot of GFs and wives who have different likes/dislikes/etc.

[Guest122317-1]

Originally Posted by gentlemantoo

GFE is a marketing term. Women say they are GFE to attract customers that desire sex in a softer and more generic style. That is easier work for the lady. There is no compassion nor passion in any session, there is faked passion and acting. And that is part of that attitude of GFE but it is also about the checklist. What guy pays $300 to sit and get to know the lady? Zero, all of the consumwrs are paying for some sex act, period. What sex acts are important if a man likes DFK he does not call on ladies that do not do that, if she is only CBJ I will never call her. I got one CBJ, not from a girlfriend, not from a wife, not from someone that I did not have to pay. I got it from a provider. Hated the experience, so if the lady I date.next tells me she is only CBJ and will not do bareback 3 years, I am out the door, our sex lives will not be compatible.

GFE in an ad is completely meaningless to me. I read reviews for the activities I like and then decide.

The way I find a lady to see is first by her pics, am I attracted to her? Then next is menu items, BBBJ, CIM, MSOG,foreplay a must for me. When that is satisified next is price. In my experience by the fourth time seeing same lady we are getting more comfortable and seems she is not.acting as much, now nust faking orgasms but not acting that she likes football anymore during pillow talk, lol.

GFE is just an attempt to make lonely guys feel like they are really liked, lol. She likes your cash not you. A man is not a stud by being with a provider, lol. It is business for her and a release for him.

What baffles me is where some women offer less service but charge same price??? You do not do DFK hence less service why would I pay same price for another woman that does DFK? Well me I don't but baffles me that others do.

You are right .. The way I see it the donation is irrelevant since the price to go out on an average date ads up to approximately the same as the donations the lady asks for.the yet with a date desert activities are not guaranteed. Most of the time I know its an act the better the actress the better the date..after all everything is actually about the Benjamin's even a marriage..two people meet decide to stay together because you have mutual goals and interests after time you become commited and dependent. I searched the hobby to fulfil needs that weren't being met at home, but still I am committed and otherwise satisfied with my relationship and don't want to change it.
As for friendship with the ladies... I have ladies that I see that just text to visit just because. They aren't expecting anything just to relax and visit seen an interesting site a great sunset. Tell me about a new restaurant or the scenery..needless to say they have first option on my donations.
There isnt a deep friendship more of a casual working friendship like the one you have with your doctor or therapist, your car mechanics or barber..your lives run parallel but never truly affect the others they could care less what happens to you etc. They are only friends when your there. Yet some like my doctor actually made home visits after an accident needless to say hes still my doctor.
You know how good of a relationship you have with your doctor when hes called at two thirty in the am . Did he scream at the nurse in duty or throw your chart.at her..needless to say a lady that texts me with a.picture of a sunset or a meal etc.. Or just to say you wont believe the day I had gets the Benjamin's from this old fool.

[cowboy8055]

GFE is a combo of attitude and a good menu. Need some good making out and no cbj's. Basically the provider gives you the impression she actually enjoys getting you in bed. The best GFE's take you back to your youth when ya got jumped by your horny GF. Probably a lot of different opinions on what GFE is. I know what it isn't. It's not some gal who just goes through the motions regardless of what's on the menu.

[SultrySamanthaSheppard]

I am sorry, but I agree with Storm. I am appalled at the fact that men expect "GFE" nowadays to being unsafe with BBFS, DFK, or whatever crazy things guys invent to get what they want.

This is a business guys, and it is our body to do as we wish. It really alarms me at the amount of threats I have been hearing about that if you don't do this, I will write a bad review down to forcing ladies. We made a choice to do this, but that doesn't mean we are willing to do everything on the Santa Menu. That even goes for PSE and GFE.

Like Storm said, you want those things, get a girlfriend. It does not bode well for ladies to relent and going uncovered when STD's run rampant already. There is so much education out there, and literally, we are strangers to each other. We are more likely to catch a disease because we are open down there unlike men so we are the ones that suffer the most.

GFE is more intimate and more emotional...I went to massage because I was too sensitive to the baggage that was brought along from the clients in my GFE packages. While I loved it, it drained me in ways that I do not get from mostly doing FBSM, and I am now glad that I rarely have those appts. It is HARD TO DO! Like you guys said, with some clients we have to pretend and that is not easy. We encounter all kinds every day, and while we are willing to take it...it takes it toll. I commend you, Storm, for still being able to do it. You rock!

Still want to gripe that you are not getting what you want in a GFE? That is fine...us ladies talk to each other just as much as you guys do. Good luck with that!

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard

[gentlemantoo]

I do not know yoir rates Samantha, but usually FBSM is a massage and HJ. Usually around $160 for an hour. That is gewat, less service less price makes sense. I would pay for that.

I do not advocate for women to do acts they are uncomfortable with, just charge less or stop whining and bitching. This is a sex for sale website, guys want their dick sucked and some women bitch at us because we actually prefer to enjoy the blowjob instead of some lame CBJ. Stop whining that the customer is wrong or your phone is not ringing. Lower your prices and become more competitive, if it truly is a business. Stop starting threads saying guys are all wrong or is that part of the GFE experience; telling the man how wrong he is? Teasing a little there, but try being clear in your menu and give a better product if you want more Benjamin's.

Anyone that believes we pay either way is so wrong. Yes as a gentleman I pay for the date in real life, but I also get a great meal and I do not take women out in order to get laid, that is so wrong. I take them out because we have a connection and I want to learn more about her, not sex. Maybe some men view dating as a conquest and maybe he needs a new attitude, idk. That is for each man to decide himself. When I want a release I hire one of these beautiful ladies, when I want to view a sunset, I find a lady I care for and one that cares for me back. This is not eharmony.com.

Less service less price or put up with where you are. What.ever happened to customer is always right? Lol

[cowboy8055]

Originally Posted by seductivestorm

Being GFE does NOT mean I or any girl needs to do uncovered, bare , non safe acts.

The following things are not, SHOULD not be guaranteed in your thinking of GFE men, DEEP TONGUE KISSING, BARE ORAL, BARE ANYTHING.

For many guys you just took the GFE out of GFE. I'll agree with ya when it comes to sex. Lots of real life couples practice safe sex so barebacking doesn't need to be part of GFE. But no deep kissing and only oral that is covered? On what planet does that resemble something a guy does with a GF. Never has a GF that didn't want to make out. Never had a GF that didn't want daty. Never had a GF that did cbj's. Didn't even know cbj's existed til I joined the hobby. What you describe is safe hobbying and there's nothing wrong with that. You're perfectly entitled to conduct business in a way comfortable for you. I just don't consider it to be GFE.

[ck1942]

imo, very interesting discussion above, but only two points that perhaps all of us can agree on.

A lady quote:

This is a business guys, and it is our body to do as we wish.

A gentleman's quote:

This is a business, ladies; and it is our money to spend as we wish.

With those two points (and the latter one is mine), here's my side of the story.

Some activities can easily be defined, such as bbj, cfs, mish, etc.

But when you reach for emotion, for example, and for chemisty, companionship, communication, connection, we are treading on ill-defined territory.

So, left me offer the two rules for ladies that I give when asked.

1) ladies are in charge of setting the rules, and

2) ladies are in charge of making sure the gents know and understand the rules.

Which brings us back to:

This is a business guys, and it is our body to do as we wish.
This is a business, ladies; and it is our money to spend as we wish.

Happy Hobbying!!!

[cowboy8055]

Originally Posted by SultrySamanthaSheppard

I am sorry, but I agree with Storm. I am appalled at the fact that men expect "GFE" nowadays to being unsafe with BBFS, DFK, or whatever crazy things guys invent to get what they want.

This is a business guys, and it is our body to do as we wish.
Samantha Sheppard

I wouldn't make BBFS part of GFE though some guys probably do. The whole point of GFE is to mimic what guys have done with GF's. No dfk and covered oral simply doesn't do that. Yes it's your body and you are in no way obligated to be GFE. But guys aren't obligated to see non-GFE's if it's not what there looking for.

[SultrySamanthaSheppard]

LOL! Gentleman, you obviously don't know anything about my "specialty", but hey, your loss. I stay very busy with my "skills" and I don't do those other things while getting stellar reviews, and paying my bills just fine on time. Oh, and sweetie...I have been doing this for 13 years and counting and have never dropped my rates for a client. The only reason I set them at my rate is for the market because I am smart enough to know economically what my skills are worth. I am not worried about no calls...I can't keep up and my clients know that I am worth every penny. I also do not do anything that I don't want to do and I will never allow a client to coerce me to think otherwise. I learned that lesson a long time ago, and have been loving my business ever since.

You guys make the remark that you are fine with girls pretending to "connect" with you, and I think, "How sad!" I only see clients I connect with, and if I don't...I never see them again. Why should I pretend when you can find someone who truly does? I care for each and every one of my clients, and they know I do. Is that really what you want? Some lady that has to endure an hour with you just so you can get your money's worth. What if you could actually find someone that TRULY wants to do those things, and not because you feel she is obligated to, or are you really that shallow that you think we should think less of ourselves to satisfy your selfish needs because hey, you got the cash.

Every lady in this business has a thing(s) she doesn't like, and if she doesn't want to do it then that is her right, not yours even if you are carrying Bens that make you think otherwise.

xoxo,

Samantha Sheppard