We've Flatten The Curve. It's Time For Texas To Move On.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by friendly fred

I could let them go but I can afford to pay them.

I hope they are loyal to me in the long term but I'm doing it because I want to do it.

You’re a good man, Fred.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

You’re a good man, Fred.

Thank you kind sir.

[HedonistForever]

Just heard an expert say that the larger the number of cases, the less effective testing becomes. It's really common sense when you think about it. You find you have 10 people with something "new". You try to track down everybody that those 10 people came in contact with and hopefully none of the 10 had left the area and mingled with people normally not in their circle of acquaintances. But what if you have a million people with the virus? How the hell are you going to track down every single person that a million people came into contact with? There is a point of "diminishing returns" on testing.


That's not to say testing should stop but maybe the more important test right now, is testing everybody for antibodies to find out how many had the virus but were asymptomatic and might be able to provide plasma for a vaccine.


If you are displaying symptoms of the flu, what are you going to do different if it is the corona virus instead of influenza A? Nothing. You isolate and wait to see if you become one of the unlucky that has to go to the hospital or you stay at home and recover like we see many, many people now doing.


As for ventilators, they need not put one aside with my name on it because I won't be going to a hospital to be put on a ventilator. Have you been seeing the stories about how many people put on ventilators in NYC are dying? They are now stacking dead bodies in refrigerator trucks. I don't know the statistics but I'm guessing that if you are in bad enough shape to be put on a ventilator, you will never come off that ventilator alive. You will more than likely die and you will more than likely infect a health care worker trying to save you which they will probably not be able to do.


If it gets to a point where I can't breathe, I have a spot all picked out in the backyard where I'll meet my end courtesy of my Glock.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Again, I will leave it up to the "experts" who are making informed decisions. If they determine that the time is right to restart the country, I will abide by their decision. If they see more of a downside than upside to restarting the country, and push out that date to whatever they deem appropriate, I will abide by their decision. Like anyone else, I want to see things back to "normal" as soon as possible. As Trump said again today, the priority is protecting as many lives as possible.

The tricky part, the part that Trump is wrestling with now is, do we have to wait till the last person has died? Must we go a week with no deaths in America before people can go back to work? Of course not. So what if we are down to a mere hundred people a week dying and it is confined to a couple of major cities? Do we take the chance and open up and what if in opening up we see the numbers start to spike again?


This will be a damn tough decision but I say there is an acceptable number of deaths whether everybody likes to admit that or not.


The "not one death is acceptable" crowd can suck it.

[oeb11]

HF-"If you are displaying symptoms of the flu, what are you going to do different if it is the corona virus instead of influenza A? Nothing. You isolate and wait to see if you become one of the unlucky that has to go to the hospital or you stay at home and recover like we see many, many people now doing."


Influenza A can be treated with anti-virals to shorten disease and reduce complications.
There are four FDA-approved antiviral drugs recommended by CDC to treat flu this season.

• oseltamivir phosphate (available as a generic version or under the trade name Tamiflu®),
• zanamivir (trade name Relenza®)
• peramivir (trade name Rapivab®), and
• baloxavir marboxil (trade name Xofluza®).

Generic oseltamivirexternal icon and Tamiflu® are available as a pill or liquid suspension and are FDA approved for early treatment of flu in people 14 days and older. Zanamivir is a powder that is inhaled and approved for early treatment of flu in people 7 years and older. (Note: Zanamivir (trade name Relenza®) is administered using an inhaler device and is not recommended for people with breathing problems like asthma or COPD.) Peramivir is given intravenously by a health care provider and is approved for early treatment of flu in people 2 years and older. Baloxavir is a pill given as a single dose by mouth and is approved for early treatment of flu in people 12 years and older. (Note: Baloxavir (trade name Xofluza®) is not recommended for pregnant women, breastfeeding mothers, outpatients with complicated or progressive illness, or hospitalized patients because there is no information about use of baloxavir in these patients.)
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/treatment/treatment.htm
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/treatment/treatment.htm


We do not have that capability with proven treatments for Wuhan coronavirus at this time.

Hopefully soon.

the CDC web is posted above.


likely by the time we have a million recovered patients in a geographic area - the beginnings of herd immunity will kick in and stop the virus progression through the population.

We may well just delaying the inevitable with the quarantine orders. Unless the virus spontaneously goes into remission with warmer weather - that we don't know yet.

[Kinkster90210]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

It's the deaths. Since the virus doesn't seem to have serious and permanent after effects from a 50K ft view only the deaths matter. Again, this isn't polio.

Stop panicking.

BTW, he may have to pay them depending on among other factors: labor agreements and employment agreements.

Here is the latest map. Slide the bar from right to left to see the progress of the disease:
https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/maps-o...ead-across-us/

Texas now has over 1000 cases. Louisiana has over 2700.

How is that curve-flattening coming along?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

The tricky part, the part that Trump is wrestling with now is, do we have to wait till the last person has died? Must we go a week with no deaths in America before people can go back to work? Of course not. So what if we are down to a mere hundred people a week dying and it is confined to a couple of major cities? Do we take the chance and open up and what if in opening up we see the numbers start to spike again?

This will be a damn tough decision but I say there is an acceptable number of deaths whether everybody likes to admit that or not.

The "not one death is acceptable" crowd can suck it.

I am very happy that I am not in Trump's shoes having to make the decision.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Tiny

From the article:

Countries that have tested widely for the virus, isolated cases and quarantined suspected cases — in the way that South Korea and Singapore have done — have managed to suppress transmission of the virus.

Hong Kong and Singapore have followed similar paths in responding to this outbreak.

They've used testing aggressively to identify cases — not only testing people who are so sick that they're hospitalized but also mild cases and even suspected cases. They've quarantined tens of thousands of people who may have been exposed to confirmed cases.

The vast majority of the people ordered to quarantine at home are perfectly healthy and never do get sick, but the few who do develop symptoms can be quickly isolated further. Tedros of the WHO refers to this as cutting off the virus at the bud — basically stopping the virus from spreading further and preventing community transmission.


Japan hasn't been testing nearly as widely as South Korea, but it appears to have fended off significant community transmission by quickly investigating any flare-ups of cases, identifying who exactly is infected and then monitoring their contacts.

In other words, they reacted early and did things right. Europe and the USA didn't. Wearing masks, which they do and we don't, probably helped a lot too.

Wait...you mean to tell me Trump did not test early enough? Why I remember like it was yesterday when he said we only have 15 cases and it was going down!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I am very happy that I am not in Trump's shoes having to make the decision.

Why?

He will take no negative responsibility and will try and horde all the credit no matter what he does!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by oeb11

We may well just delaying the inevitable with the quarantine orders.

Yes Einstein, that was the point. To spread out the infection time...

Jesus

[WTF]

Originally Posted by oeb11

SR- And, China is positioning itself to take advantage of the economic collapse we are inflicting on ourselves - as is Putin.

How so?...specifically China.

By making mask? Is that some long term strategy?

Do you mean like this article suggests?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...on/ar-BB11Ps1U

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Kinkster90210

Here is the latest map. Slide the bar from right to left to see the progress of the disease:
https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/maps-o...ead-across-us/

Texas now has over 1000 cases. Louisiana has over 2700.

How is that curve-flattening coming along?

Piss ants and faggots aren't good with statistics....these are snapshots based upon incomplete data...

It would seem every sick motherfucker is showing up in the hospital whether they get tested or not..why aren't we looking at overall hospital admissions, too? That rate of increase likely is somewhat significant and we can extrapolate a trend from that...

[oeb11]

Ftw - China has the "hordes" - and Cuomo is trying to "take credit" with his whining that ny doesn't getr enough - despite his "Hoarding" of 4000 ventilators in NJ.

as usual - nothing constructive to offer.

Take a note from Dean Wormer - "Drunk, fat, and stupid is no way to go through life, Son!"

[friendly fred]

I would also say we should compare death rates at this point versus the same time last year.

Do we have a significant increase?

So what if a bunch of people are sick at home from who knows what?

Fat fuckers should adopt a more healthy lifestyle and quit being a bunch of pussies!

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Kinkster90210

Here is the latest map. Slide the bar from right to left to see the progress of the disease:
https://nypost.com/2020/03/27/maps-o...ead-across-us/

Texas now has over 1000 cases. Louisiana has over 2700.

How is that curve-flattening coming along?

We only had four people in Texas die in the last 24 hours that have been attributed to coronavirus - so at the moment, the flattening is working though we still need more data.

Even so, it isn't a bad trend yet.

Wed 6 deaths
Thurs 5 deaths
Friday 4 deaths

What would be interesting would be to know their ages and other health problems.