Review policy

[Pangolier]

I think there's some confusion about FOSTA. That legislation allows police to pursue domain owners for the content on their domains, rather than only going after the personal individual who posted or uploaded the content. In the past it used to be that the registrant of a site wasn't liable if a user who visited the site posted or did something questionable. That has since changed, although the cops may have to prove the domain owner either allowed or didn't take steps to prevent the activity from taking place.

If a prosecutor thinks that a review is sufficient evidence to file charges against someone, then he's going to use that review in court regardless of whether FOSTA was ever even proposed into legislation, let alone signed into law. FOSTA has nothing to do with that, it would be whether the "review" has any evidentiary value.

In regards to reviews themselves... There are only two circumstances in which I typically post summaries. Sometimes if I've had a negative experience, I will share the information privately rather than publicly due to the potential for abuse by the offending provider.

The first scenario is when it's highly likely that I won't be seeing that particular person very often in the future. Think about it: if I didn't enjoy my time with that person, then why would I go back to them? And if I have a good experience, then the most probable reason I wouldn't see that person often is if our cities tend not to coincide.

It doesn't really matter if the appointment was positive or negative, it just depends on how often I anticipate seeing that person in the future. If it's never or only once a blue moon, then I'm more likely to write a synopsis.

If I'm seeing that person relatively often, then I would be shooting myself in the foot to post a summary. If I post something positive about a woman, then the summary is likely to pique the interest of those who read it. That's probably going to result in her appointment book filling up much faster. So now she has less appointments available during any given day, and I would have fight for a time slot to get in amongst the other people trying to book. Also, if she gets more requests than she can handle, that's probably going to insinuate a a possible rate increase; high demand and little supply. Doesn't seem like a very bright idea for the person posting the review...

The second scenario in which I consider posting a summary is if I have an incentive to do so.

On a side note, many times it can be difficult to authenticate a review as being accurate. While this isn't always the case, there are numerous fake reviews about retail establishments, hotels, restaurants, lawyers, etc...


I can't overstate the value of having a rapport with providers I know I can trust. While I am certainly open to the idea of meeting new ones, I know from past experience that it's also a daunting risk... When I see a provider I'm established with, I feel comfortable and at ease going into the appointment. When I see a new one I know I'm basically walking into Pandora's Box. If I receive an internal referral from someone I know, I might be less apprehensive about it. But online reviews aren't always the easiest source of information to rely on all of the time. It depends partly on being able to verify where they came from and the integrity of the person who wrote them.

[ClaireBarsett]

Again, I am "New" despite my previous escort experience. So, unfortunately, I really need anyone who sees me to reviews for the time being.

AS FAR AS, "DO I LIKE REVIEWS"? Oh yes, the pride in me swells when I receive feedback that can be shared and reviewed by another members. I love knowing that I do a wonderful job and I love hearing recommendation on how I can do a better job. I'm seeking to please and I want to be the very best that no one ever was.

Is this for everyone? No. And I respect that.

Case in point, I had my "Cherry Popped" once again on this website, by a very talented individual. A few weeks later, I was contacted but another gentleman and went out to see him to his location. ONLY after we had exchanging private messages through the phone for a few days, and his main reason for contacting me? He had read my review on here.

After the appointment, I asked if he would review me on here, and he said he would, I even did a little "debriefing" at the end of the appointment to ask if there was anything he thought I could do better. He replied, from the bed, ready to pass out, that no, it was wonderful and he wouldn't have changed a thing.

So he agrees to review me and then not come through. It has been a month now, and if he was going to review me, he would have done so. Needless to say, I am disappointed. But that is life. Maybe he was just caught up in the moment of saying, "Yes". No hard feelings. If he uses me for a reference, regardless if he reviews me or not, I will give the provider my honest opinion of him and how he did during the session.

So, for new providers, if you see them, regardless if you are well referenced, I would at least ask, "Would you like me to review you?". If they don't want it, cool beans. I feel like, there are some people on here who see ONLY new providers for the very reason that they are trying to see if said provider is the real deal. In my case, you are helping me rebuild the old reputation I had. Because currently, all I have is my word and that, my darlings, is not enough.

[Randall Creed]

Interesting.

[yourdesire]

I understand the discretion of not having reviews but I too personally like getting them. It is my main form of advertising. And it is an ego boost 😁Down the line I may feel different, I do try to stay as low key as I can without going UTR. If I build enough regulars to reach my goals and choose not to see any new people then it would make no sense to advertise.

[JohnnyYanks]

Originally Posted by Lena Duvall

I wonder if it appears that we "have something to hide." But in my mind, when a companion has been on here and active for years, why should their credibility be called into question simply because they no longer want ECCIE reviews?

Wouldn't it then stand to reason a gent who has been "on here and active for years" should not have his credibility called into question? Such a gent would not need to be screened or provide current references should he want to purchase an hour or three of your time?

I'm of the opinion that service levels can change over time, as can appearance. A current review, written by a trusted monger, does much to assuage my apprehensions and, in fact, can whet my appetite. A good review has the same, or better, effect as a good ad.

I will assume a provider with a no review policy does indeed have something to hide. She might not have gained 20 lbs or aged sharply or had an unmentionable habit catch up with her. It might be she now provides an extra level of service she'd prefer not be publicized. There's countless reasons a provider might not wish to be reviewed.

I'd prefer not to navigate all those potentialities. I prefer the reviews.

[Lena Duvall]

Creating a straw man is not necessary as no where did I state that everything about ECCIE is unlikable. There is such a thing as nuance. It's totally possible to have benign feelings about something while also having questions or even critiques about it.

Also, if myself or any other companion is granted a no review policy, the admins themselves have determined that so long as we forfeit our privileges to post ads and have a showcase, we can still engage on the site. So no, things are not as all-or-nothing as you suggest.

Well, those that don't like a REVIEW board don't have to use it.

[Lena Duvall]

Interesting points. I want to note though that while there is still so much I have to learn about SESTA/FOSTA and time will tell what all the effects will be, I do have a pretty solid understanding...

What concerns me is not only how the law is *suppose* to function on paper, but also the de facto implications especially since even before these specific laws, authority figures treated providers unjustly and routinely falsified how they enacted certain policies.

...If a prosecutor thinks that a review is sufficient evidence to file charges against someone, then he's going to use that review in court regardless of whether FOSTA was ever even proposed into legislation, let alone signed into law. FOSTA has nothing to do with that, it would be whether the "review" has any evidentiary value..

[Lena Duvall]

Not at all. This is a false equivalence in my opinion. Individual companions determine their own screening policies and if a client is not comfortable with it, he is not forced to abide by it. Also client reviews and provider references are not comparable and do not serve the same purpose.

Wouldn't it then stand to reason a gent who has been "on here and active for years" should not have his credibility called into question? Such a gent would not need to be screened or provide current references should he want to purchase an hour or three of your time?

I'm totally aware that there are many clients who look at companions who haven't received a recent review with suspicion. However years ago I realized that I'm not trying to appeal to every client. So missing out on seeing people who only visit recently reviewed providers is totally fine with me. One year and six months ago was when I received my most recent review. Yet, I've been doing relatively well in between then and now. Reviews mean a lot to some clients. And then there are clients who use other parameters to determine who they'll see..

I'm of the opinion that service levels can change over time, as can appearance. A current review, written by a trusted monger, does much to assuage my apprehensions and, in fact, can whet my appetite. A good review has the same, or better, effect as a good ad.

I will assume a provider with a no review policy does indeed have something to hide. She might not have gained 20 lbs or aged sharply or had an unmentionable habit catch up with her. It might be she now provides an extra level of service she'd prefer not be publicized. There's countless reasons a provider might not wish to be reviewed.

I'd prefer not to navigate all those potentialities. I prefer the reviews.

[DNinja69]

Originally Posted by ClaireBarsett

Again, I am "New" despite my previous escort experience. So, unfortunately, I really need anyone who sees me to reviews for the time being.

Is this for everyone? No. And I respect that.

I did not realize all of the steps involved in a provider
going 'no reviews' on here. I respect their choice, and
usually have had good experiences seeing ladies (massage
mostly) who don't allow reviews. If she can maintain a
level of business without reviews, good for her.

My concern in general with this business is that one side
is getting more powerful than the other. Reviews are a
great way to measure value, reliability, and to help us
customers find people that we will enjoy spending our
money on. Some ladies would have us believe that we
don't have input on price, or type of activities, and
what is or is not said in a review.

This forum is a way that guys can help maintain some
balance. Just remember this is a busines...

untill the clothes come off. then.. much fun!
happy hunting

[Lena Duvall]

These points are totally valid. Thanks for sharing your thoughts in a respectful manner. My impression is that the "one side" you're referring to getting more powerful than the other is companions. I politely disagree. Regarding rates as an example, when I first started five years ago, 200 to 250 was seen as average in my base city. Since Spring 2018, more and more I'm seeing companions charging 180 or even 130 in some instances. I say that to say there are providers catering to potential clients at various points of the spectrum. And while some have raised rates, others have lowered them. So I'm failing to see any unilateral shift in one direction that is disempowering clients.

Clients always have and will continue to have input when it comes to rates and services. Y'all have the final say based on who you do or do not book a session with. As a companion who is niche in many regards, I deal with a good amount of rejection. Whether it be because someone does not like my body type, hairstyle, or any other aspect of my physicality / personality. So if not wanting to be reviewed on ECCIE is just one other possible reason why a client might choose to avoid me, so be it.

Still, I don't think allowing providers to have a no review policy will undermine the whole power structure of ECCIE. As we've seen even in this thread, there are providers who appreciate the marketing or encouraging ego-boosting benefits of reviews. I wholeheartedly respect other companions running their business how they see fit. I started this thread because I wondered if, being in the minority of companions who don't want ECCIE reviews, my choices would be respected.

..My concern in general with this business is that one side
is getting more powerful than the other. Reviews are a
great way to measure value, reliability, and to help us
customers find people that we will enjoy spending our
money on. Some ladies would have us believe that we
don't have input on price, or type of activities, and
what is or is not said in a review.

This forum is a way that guys can help maintain some
balance. Just remember this is a busines...

[Old-T]

DNinja, you make some good points, however the reality is the men have most the balance of power, certainly on boards like this.
They can post a review, and the benefit of the doubt goes to them unless a lady can overwhelmingly prove it is fake. Even then, assuming the meeting actually occured, the man can write it with faint praise and back handed complements, and liberal use of "I didn't enjoy" and "she wasn'tinto it", etc. Things that are subjective and negative without being over the top hostile. Things that a provider really can't disprove since it is opinion--but will chase a lot of guys away from seeing her.

If she pushes back, and has a well established excellent reputation, she can probably overcome it. But is she is relatively new and not well known, it is a serious hit on her business.
On top of it, there are many of the "old heads" here and on other boards who think any push-back by a woman is proof positive that she is a she-deamon who should be shunned.

No, the world is not fair, and women have some advantages, but on most escort boards they are still second class posters.

[heavyraidersfan]

Being in an area where there are no local providers and we depend on traveling ladies, reviews are invaluable. Ladies always want to be discrete in their communications and I see the sense in this, but if there are no reviews to look at some questions need to be asked. Reviews can answer many of these. I have had many ladies ghost on me when some of these questions are asked. Most of the time its probably a good thing because these are fakes or other things. If a lady has reviews but no recent ones it does give me pause and wonder why. I guess Im saying reviews are one of the reasons that I joined this site and they have helped me and I hope I have helped people with mine.

[greyghost48]

Just my 2 cents. If the no review policy truly means “no bio page” that means no further ads to me assuming ECCIE management is made known of the no review policy of the lady in question. Without a review/testimonial a new admirer is left to asking some very personal questions of his Desiree, some of which they may not readily like to answer. As for being on the site for some time that doesn’t insure successful activity. Sometimes I don’t feel comfortable sharing info on a lady that I have seen with just any member that may send an inquiry pm, especially one who has no reviews under their belt.

[ClaireBarsett]

DNinja or His Dudeness,

Thank you, Happy Hunting Darling!

[DNinja69]

No, the world is not fair, and women have some advantages, but on most escort boards they are still second class posters.

I understand what you meant, but can't agree with the 'second class posters' for the ladies. I find that Eccie is a place where both sides can have their say, and for the most part it is done respectfully and in the interest of everyone having a good time.

When I spoke about the balance of power I meant between the men and women, and also the established ladies vs newbies. There are lots of moving parts within this 'hobby' and for the guys who take advantage trying to 'advertise' for girls not on here there needs to be a check. For girls who don't want reviews, there needs to be a system in place. For newbies who want to start out at $350+ for an hour, we need some accountability on how they provide. It is not perfect, but it works.