Hyphenated Americans are not Americans

[Guest030824]

A letter to the American Defense Society from Theodore Roosevelt Jan 3 1919
“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who
comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American…There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

[Old-T]

What does that have to do with hypenated names? Forget immigrants, a lot of people whose lineage on US soil predates the Mayflower have hyphenated names.

Actions define loyalty, not hyphens.

[garhkal]

Originally Posted by Old-T

What does that have to do with hypenated names? Forget immigrants, a lot of people whose lineage on US soil predates the Mayflower have hyphenated names.

Actions define loyalty, not hyphens.

True, actions DO more define loyalty, but when we keep seeing displays of Anti-americanism on liberal colleges often led by 'latino -americans" (as in those who have tried and in some cases successfully gotten the school to get RID of the US flag on campus, as it would 'be offensive to non-americans"), their actions show they are not being 'loyal'..

[Old-T]

Completely agree--but that is a different ussue from hyphenated names. I served with a lit of extremely loyal Americans in the military who had hyphenated names.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Actions define loyalty, not hyphens.

Old-T

That's no shit.

[Old-T]

Typical LL awesome post.

[themystic]

Originally Posted by tucson

A letter to the American Defense Society from Theodore Roosevelt Jan 3 1919
“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who
comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American…There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag… We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language… and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”

I agree. I tell the autocratic right wing on here everyday that they are Un-American and Anti-American.

[bamscram]

Was he talking about Afro-Americans.
Or Bill Smith-Jones?

[Old-T]

Good point. I don't know. It could be taken either way since the vast majority of hyphenated names are in Hispanic-American groups.

[grean]

Removing all global /regional adjectives prior to the hyphen would a great thing. If everyone is just Americans, we would be better off. We don't have to forget or be ashamed of our roots. We just need to know what we all are now.

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by bamscram

Was he talking about Afro-Americans.
Or Bill Smith-Jones?

Maybe he was referring to EKIM-The-Inbred-CHIMP !

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by Rey Lengua

Maybe he was referring to EKIM-The-Inbred-CHIMP !

Typical dumber by the day club member response.
It he was then he was referring to you ekim the inbred chimp.
Stupid fucking lemming.

[Guest050619-1]

Originally Posted by bamscram

Was he talking about Afro-Americans.
Or Bill Smith-Jones?

I think it was pretty obvious (however) it appears the reference was lost in translation by others per this thread.

Never understood the "African-American" label...truly. I've asked black acquaintances about this before and the explanation (at best) has never been the same from one to the next.

After all (as one woman, while musing per this very topic with me one day)....she, herself, was not born in Africa nor had ever visited this continent....nor were her parents born there...nor either set of grand-parents....and from what (both sides of the family had told her), neither were her great-grandparents of both sides. That said, it confused us both as to WHY someone had come along one day and created that distinction (for her community)....the African-American.

We both agreed I had more of a reason to use (if I chose) a hyphenated label: for me, one set of grandparents had immigrated from Austria while another had come to America via Sweden (growing up, Christmases were always grand as you might imagine). That said, it's never crossed my mind to ever refer to myself as Austrian-American or a Euro-American or.....well, you catch my drift, yes?

[themystic]

Originally Posted by Chateau Becot

I think it was pretty obvious (however) it appears the reference was lost in translation by others per this thread.

Never understood the "African-American" label...truly. I've asked black acquaintances about this before and the explanation (at best) has never been the same from one to the next.

After all (as one woman, while musing per this very topic with me one day)....she, herself, was not born in Africa nor had ever visited this continent....nor were her parents born there...nor either set of grand-parents....and from what (both sides of the family had told her), neither were her great-grandparents of both sides. That said, it confused us both as to WHY someone had come along one day and created that distinction (for her community)....the African-American.

We both agreed I had more of a reason to use (if I chose) a hyphenated label: for me, one set of grandparents had immigrated from Austria while another had come to America via Sweden (growing up, Christmases were always grand as you might imagine). That said, it's never crossed my mind to ever refer to myself as Austrian-American or a Euro-American or.....well, you catch my drift, yes?

I catch your drift CB. Maybe after being called the N word for a few hundred years, then called colored people, (NAACP), then Negroes, then Blacks, maybe they felt like African Americans was more appropriate and dignified. Not sure why you have a problem with that. If thats to PC for you, oh well

[Yssup Rider]

Yeah, these fuckers don't like having to learn words and shit.