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Old 11-06-2011, 08:59 AM   #1
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Default Job Killers

Unemployment is still high -- five people compete for every job!

This country needs jobs badly if we are to come out of this devastating recessionary event.

The 'Great Recession' has been unprecedented, destroying lives and families. It has been especially destructive on hard-working people; the middle class.

Restoring jobs is the most important issue to reinforce an economic recovery. Housing is also a drag on the recovery, but jobs will help housing begin to rebound.

When the Tea Party swept the Republicans into the majority in the House of Representatives and handed the gavel to Congressman John Boehner, he promised job creation would be one of the new House majority's priorities.

Has it been?

The Republican House has not produced a single job. With the help of the obstructionist Republicans in the Senate they've actually destroyed job growth.

Last week Republican Senators blocked the American Jobs Act, a plan economist Mark Zandi estimated could generate 1.9 million jobs and add two percentage points to GDP.

Why aren't Republicans interested in creating jobs, the best stimulus for America's recovery?

There are three reasons -- take your pick.

First on their agenda is a dead economy with high unemployment. They believe this will bring Obama down and are willing to destroy the country to achieve that, and hopefully regain power.

They're only interested in helping the rich and are in lock-step for lowering taxes on their biggest donors at the expense of 99 percent of the population.

Or, they're too stupid to see what their destructive ideology of low taxes and austerity does to the economy and the country.

I would like to think it's the first two but we can't rule out the third.

The American Jobs Act would put long idled construction workers back to work, would stimulate hiring of long-term unemployed, help small businesses begin to hire, and put returning veterans -- a portion of the population that has been unpatriotically ignored by corporations and businesses -- back to work.

The seriousness of the need for jobs falls on deaf ears, evidenced by the insidious issues brought up and discussed on the House floor.

Job creators, which Republicans' speak so passionately about, have failed to create jobs despite all the benefits they've received -- low taxes, easy credit, bailouts, low interest rates.

That's because the problem is demand and demand comes from jobs and the only way that is going to happen is with help from government. Republicans' insistence on austerity -- spending cuts -- adds to the problem. Every lost job, even government jobs, is a decline in demand.

Occupy Wall Street is also about jobs and lingering high unemployment. And it's about trade agreements that have, historically, facilitated off-shoring of jobs.

Since 1994, everything Republicans' have advocated has destroyed job growth in this country. Those policies are the main cause of the 'Great Recession' and our struggling economy.

On October 11 Republicans voted against bringing the AJA to a vote. Every Republican voted against job creation including the eight pairs who represent states with higher unemployment than the 9.1 percent national unemployment figure.

Of the fifteen states that have two Republican Senators, eight of them have unemployment of 9.2 percent or higher.

Two of the more vocal and critical Senators, Jim DeMint and Lindsey Graham, of South Carolina represent a state with 11.1 percent unemployment -- a state that needs jobs badly. South Carolina has the 4th highest unemployment in the nation and unemployment rose by two-tenths last month.

Extreme obstructionist, Mitch McConnell, and his trusty side-kick, Rand Paul, represent Kentucky with 9.5 percent unemployment. Georgia is at 10.2 percent and Alabama is at 9.9 percent and all four Republican Senators voted down the bill that would bring jobs to their states.

Job creation is the most important political issue to millions of Americans. It would stimulate employment and begin to heal the country, especially the middle-class. And Republicans loathe recovery of the middle-class.

Yes, without a doubt, they are job killers.
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:04 AM   #2
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the unemployment problem is but one of the punishments God inflicts on America for electing Odumbo......we must pay for our sin.....
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:42 AM   #3
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Marshall..............how old are you? You must be a child with unauthorized access to this site or you are old ...................... suffering from Alzheimer I would guess.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:47 AM   #4
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Good post BigEddie, and don't worry about Marshall. Every time he has a birthday the gap between his age and IQ grows larger.
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Old 11-06-2011, 03:45 PM   #5
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Congress does not now or ever has had the ability to create jobs Louie.
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Old 11-06-2011, 03:50 PM   #6
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Good post BigEddie, and don't worry about Marshall. Every time he has a birthday the gap between his age and IQ grows larger.
I DO GET SMARTER AND SMARTER ALL THE TIME.....THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THAT!
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Old 11-06-2011, 07:38 PM   #7
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Big Louie posted the nonsense, Marshall was just responding at the same level.
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:26 AM   #8
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Congress does not now or ever has had the ability to create jobs Louie.
That maybe true but everyone person running for Congress stands up and says that if elected they will create jobs.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:13 AM   #9
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They can controle any Federal Program by either funding it, or not.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:01 AM   #10
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Big Louie posted the nonsense, Marshall was just responding at the same level.
Nonsense!?!? Explain that load of crap!!! How many jobs have the job creators....created??? And we need to see your proof....ie how many new hires have the ballyhooed job creators increased at what companies....

And Marshall...you are living proof of human evolution....only humans protect to stupid and the infirm....in nature??? You would have been culled from the herd already....
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:03 AM   #11
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That maybe true but everyone person running for Congress stands up and says that if elected they will create jobs.
Psst! Big Louie! Over here in the alley. Let me let you in on a little secret. Don't tell anyone. No one else knows this. Here it is. Are you ready? Are you sure you can handle it? .............................. .............................. .........Politicians will lie

Now don't tell anyone, just you and me know.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:17 AM   #12
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Nonsense!?!? Explain that load of crap!!! How many jobs have the job creators....created??? And we need to see your proof....ie how many new hires have the ballyhooed job creators increased at what companies....

And Marshall...you are living proof of human evolution....only humans protect to stupid and the infirm....in nature??? You would have been culled from the herd already....
Tell you what, explain how the government creates jobs. The recent stimulus bill created jobs at a cost of $400k+ per job. (I've already posted a link to that info in another thread.) Louie believes the ridiculous notion that Obama's current jobs proposal will solve everything. It's bullshit. There is no evidence that it will be any different than previous jobs programs.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:45 AM   #13
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The Government keeps saying that Small Business is the major job creator in our economy, but are probably the last people they will ever ask just what needs to be done in order to creat more jobs.

The reason they will not ask is because the answer would not be in line with the Union-Socialist business plan that the Democrats insist on pushing.

Heck, we have been working six and seven days a week for the past two years. We did put on one young man out of trade this year, but for the most part, we simply let our men have all the overtime they want. In short, it is too much of a hassle to hire people.

Of course, our current employs love this.

Even though I have never read it, what would you bet that tyhe so called jobs bill that the President sent to Congress has all sorts of 'you must hire Unions, you must hire the exact proportion of employs as the population demographics, etc". Then add to that you will end up spending 50 cents on every dollar just on paperwork to satisfy every conceivable regulation, and gosh knows what else.

In short, a 10 million dollar bridge rehabilitation will end up costing $100 million, all because of the bueracratic bullshit that anything "government" requires.
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Old 11-07-2011, 11:20 AM   #14
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The best thing government can do to "create jobs" is to get out of the way.
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:36 PM   #15
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The best thing government can do to "create jobs" is to get out of the way.
Or taxing overtime 100%, including Government overtime.
That would create a massive amount of jobs.

Way to many people work their ass of 60, 70 hours per week or more.
And they are of course happy with it.
I've seen it @ fortune 500 Comp's also, whole departments working till 9 PM and on Saturdays.
A CA prison nurse last year made $265,000 working overtime. New York garbage collectors have salaries way over 100K through overtime.
Cops have way too much overtime.

Of course they work for it, they deserve the money, every penny of it, but wouldn't it be better to share that work with people who are unemployed?
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