Taking a provider on vacation? Opinions needed!

[Worldtravler]

Originally Posted by ywn

Jframe2, . As I can honestly say that I am confused as to if I'm looking for the wrong thing here. .

Yes try Match.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by flyinghillbilly

Guessing that a girl that is hot and good enough to get @400 a hr will want at least 10K for 2 weeks.If you can spring for that and not give it a second thought go for it !!!

There is absolutely no way to predict. That is what I suspect she would have on her web site, and that is as much to discourage most guys from asking. The reality is it is all about how much she wants to go there, and how much SHE perceives the trip will be work vs vacation. She may quote the full price, or she may quote something very different. I have had both.

[ICU 812]

If you were dating a civi in the real-world . . .I am sure that you would try a few long weekends away with her first to see how that goes.

[MaxiMilyen]

Originally Posted by watchoutthegameisrigged

"If all men had this attitude........wow.... The hobby world would be a wonderful place 24/7/365. I enjoy a greedy client that actually understands this is not as cold and unfeeling a business as some would have the masses believe. What is more personal than intimacy between two people, regardless of how it comes about or how long the intimate relationship lasts?"

That's exactly what I seek out and I usually find it. But you find what you are looking for.

Unfortunately, and just sharing my thoughts and conclusions concerning some of the requests I've gotten, the majority of those who wanna play, appear to live under the delusion that females in this biz are not actually the kind of people who should be given considerations as actual feeling, thinking, living, breathing individuals and therefore deserve no courtesy, common or otherwise. I don't get applying cold logic to intimate encounters. But, that's just me.

I distinguish a true hobbyist from opportunists, just by the way a gent contacts me. I'm not saying that one way is right over the other, but I am saying, there is someone here for everyone, regardless of how we each feel about it or perceive what goes on. I say no, more than I say yes when contacted, because despite what some are insistent on believing is the only right way to look at this, it's not always just about the money and acts of sex and there's no right or wrong way to FEEL about it.

I, as everyone else, simply find some less desirable than others and vice versa, I'm sure. Let's use Wake Up as an example: He has no qualms telling others hateful and/or mean things and actually appears to derive pleasure from such. He simply thinks his behavior is the "norm", doesn't believe he should be challenged on this type of thing by a SW, and his inappropriate aggression towards others should be considered acceptable by all. What must he have endured to come to such conclusions, is all I can wonder. No big and who would really care how he addresses others? Well, I do, because for me, some manage to show their true nature rather quickly, making it easier for me to distinguish the difference in the type of clients that fit my perception of a hobbyist and with whom I prefer to associate with in this biz. I am grateful to learn and have knowledge of such.

Who are we kidding, cold, impersonal, unfeeling.....just ain't the way I roll..LOL That's my prerogative. Folks who are mean spirited or feel others should be given no consideration are not the kind of individuals I'd care to be associated with. I'm over those who "don't get it" and choose to associate with those who do. However, and to be fair.... I'm thinking there must be others who actually find those with a rather "cold" attitude appealing, not that there's a lot of info concerning the desire to be with or hang out with those types.....idk

Sure wish you were in the Dallas area, hon. Just by your response, I would conclude that you are definitely the kind of gent many of us say yes to and are grateful to interact with, in this hobby. We like a greedy fella such as yourself and A READER, although greedy is not an adjective I would use to describe the kind of gent either of you appear to be, so thank you!

Btw....There are a couple of other gents responding here that I feel much the same about. You know who you are and as always....I am grateful to have been given the opportunity just to meet you, not to mention the other activities which may or may not have occurred.....

OP: If you have the quality you sought with the lady you chose, then please, follow your intuition, and remember to always communicate with the lady in question. It will either work, or it won't. I, nor anyone else here, will ever be able to give you the "right" answer for you and her, because our individual opinions are based on our personal experiences and knowledge, or even others that have shared. Your situation is unique to you and her. You are not a mechanical hobbyist who spits out money and she is not just another hooker trying to make a withdrawal, despite the naysayers that have appeared and advised you here.

Again...best of luck no matter what you decide!

[stimulatethemind]

To the OP, I know you asked for the thoughts of others, but in reality, the only opinions that really matter here are yours and hers. As opposed to an opinion, I will share with you an actual experience.

About two years ago now, I met a lovely lady (through eccie). From the moment we met, it was apparent that we shared a great chemistry. Our first date, scheduled for 90 minutes, lasted a bit over three hours. Same thing happened on our second date. Over the course of the next three months, I continued to see her on a very regular basis. During this period, we spent quite a bit of time together besides our BCD time. We would go out for nice dinners, or some shopping. We would have conversations which lasted multiple hours; talking about everything under the sun; psychology, philosophy, entertainment, parenting, etc. We got to know each other. At this point, it occurred to me that sharing a vacation with this woman might be a good idea. I broached the concept to her, choosing a 5 night trip to a 5 star, all inclusive resort in Cancun. Within a couple of days, we had all the details ironed out. Of course, I covered all the expenses of the trip, including the cost of obtaining a passport for her. I also included a reasonable stipend for her to (somewhat) account for her missed income opportunity and any expenses incurred due to the trip (child care, etc.). The stipend amounted to approximately the cost of three normal dates. Keep in mind, also, that in order to book air travel, you will have access to her RL info (name, address, DOB, etc.), so there must be a certain amount of trust and discretion involved. During the planning of the trip, I included her in all the decisions regarding the trip; flight schedules, room selection, planning of activities, etc. Every time we talked, we were just building our anticipation for the big event!!

The big day finally arrived!! We had an early morning departure on a Thursday (she is, most definitely, NOT a morning person) and it was the last day of her period. I know, but when planning a trip, you never seem to consider every aspect. The flight was a bit tedious, but thankfully, we only had one stop with a reasonable interval between flights. She was a just a bit grumpy (understandable), so I made sure to attempt to cater to her every need. The point here is to understand that no one is perfect, including that lovely lady you see occasionally in what, normally, are reasonably perfect circumstances. Before you take a trip with someone, you best know something of the real person, including some of their flaws, because during the course of a trip, they will show. A little kindness and understanding can go a long way.

The balance of our trip was amazing!! The resort was incredible, one of the best I've experienced. Our room had a poolside patio, with a table and chairs and a bed. We had room service breakfast out on the patio every morning we were there. The restaurants were fantastic (there were nine of them), the staff could not have been more accommodating and the weather was perfect. Because of the room we had selected, we had access to a private area of the beach, complete with food and beverage service and beds right on the beach!! The trip was really amazing, however, primarily due to the quality of my travel companion. Besides being stunningly gorgeous, she is an extremely engaging young lady, highly intelligent and an excellent conversationalist. This is important; if you don't enjoy spending time outside the bedroom with her, don't invite her on a vacation!! Of the approximately 132 hours I spent with this woman on our trip, only about 4 of those hours were spent in sexual activity. That left 128 hours or so to fill with other endeavors. You better enjoy her company, my friend.

Just fyi, I had coordinated the trip schedule to coincide with her birthday, which was the Saturday we were there. As a surprise for her, I treated her to a massage at the spa and a private, very elegant dinner, right on the beach that evening. She was wearing a beautiful, white dress I had bought her for her birthday and could not have looked more gorgeous. Later that evening, she told me that was the most romantic thing anyone had ever done for her and that it was her best birthday ever!! I would not have traded places with any guy in the world that night!!

To summarize: yes, it can be a wonderful experience taking a trip like this, but you really need to do your homework first. Make sure that you and the lady are highly compatible outside the bedroom, as that is where you will be spending the majority of your time. You mentioned the word "love"......that's fine, but make sure you like her as well. I love my lady too, but I'm not "in love" with her. Big difference. Also, be assured that during your trip, there will be a hiccup or two encountered; be prepared to deal with them. At the end of the day, as I said earlier, the only opinions that matter here are yours and hers. Sit down and talk to her about your interest and listen to what she says and how she says it. That should tell you all you need to know. Be realistic.

Oh yeah, just for the record, the lady I traveled with........in the time since our trip, we have become very close, genuine, real life friends. We continue to see each other and have, in fact, taken a couple of other, shorter trips together. And yes, I still think she's amazing and wonderful!!

[Fancyinheels]

Originally Posted by Cpalmson

I'm sorry ladies, but if the dude is going to pay for her vacation, I see no need for him to compensate her by paying for the BCD time. Now if he wants to give her some spending cash before the trip and during the trip, that is another thing. If someone asked me to go on an all-expense paid vacation, I could care less about the business opportunities that I'd be missing. Going on a trip as the OP described is a once in a lifetime thing.

Some gentlemen think that BCD time is ALWAYS about the sex, but again, that is not what an escort/provider/companion/whatever you want to call her is selling. She is selling her time, and what happens in that time is strictly between the two people enjoying it together.

Delightful that you are evidently in a place financially where you wouldn't have to care about the missed business opportunities when on a leisure trip, CP, but really, if a girl were in that place, she could afford to pay for her own vacations, which would make her even MORE likely to expect some type of remuneration as a companion.

Perhaps it would be a once in a lifetime adventure for her, but not for every lady. Like I said, I've been a travel companion several times, London, Paris, St. Lucia, Costa Rica, Hawaii, Vegas, NYC, Key West.... and they were all excellent adventures. Each gentlemen and I came to an agreement in advance about the parameters, and I am quite understanding about what a fellow has to pay in expenses. Most of them offered me a set amount in advance with no discussion, and all I to do was just accept. I very rarely "negotiated."

Every situation is different, and you just have to communicate HONESTLY about budget, needs, and expectations.

[Fancyinheels]

Originally Posted by ywn

... I don't expect perfection 24/7. I'm ok with paying her some compensation for her loss of income producing time... I just want a normal vacation as if she were my gf. She can get tired, disappointed, pissed and whatever a normal human would feel. In fact, I prefer that over just perfection all the time....

GREAT attitude for this undertaking!


While 99% of my experiences were grand (despite "hiccups"), I will admit that one didn't go so well, the trip to London. We had already shared a couple of dinner dates here and one overnight in San Antonio together in elegant surroundings, so I kind of expected that theme to continue. He booked a tiny room in what was basically a boarding house for a week, and evidently wanted a fellow pub hopper in jeans and a tank top willing to get blitzed and carry on rather inappropriately in public for 7 nights. That wasn't made clear to ME or I would have turned him down. (I am in the habit of looking and behaving like a lady, not a tramp, when I go out. I save slut for the bedroom.) After 3 days he decided to continue his vacation elsewhere, but left me a paid room, a return ticket home, and some cash for meals and incidentals, but only a fraction of what we had agreed upon in advance for other compensation. Oh, well.... I still had a marvelous time on my own riding the Underground, seeing the museums, the Tower of London, Buckingham Palace, Baker Street... and he got arrested for public intoxication.

With that in mind, try what ICU said, a weekend trip first.

Originally Posted by A.Reader

Always the same. "I would never pay for that intimacy crap so you shouldn't either". Why is it the Fuck 'Em and Forget 'Em crowd can never comprehend there might be some men who appreciate the finer things an escort can provide? Me, I'm greedy and not too proud to admit it. I want to borrow her mind, her body, her smile, her laugh, her complete person when I am with her. It is so much more satisfying an experience
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[ywn]

Thanks so much stimulatethemind! Your trip sounds amazing and is exactly the kind I'm looking for as well. I'm so glad to hear from someone who has done it for real and with great success.

Fancyinheels, I'm sorry for ur bad experience. I completely agree that some of us are looking more for companionship than sex. And that would be for me for sure.

I will contact her soon and see if she would be interested in a shorter Bahamas trip for 3 nights instead. Hopefully we can get everything worked out!

[BusyLiving]

I've done it - and it has upsides and downsides. I completely lost my head over one provider but I knew it was not something appropriate for this world and I went ahead anyway. We spent 8 days in Costa Rica and it was a blast. But here is the reality - if it goes spectacularly, you will bond with her even more and be even more attached to her and, in my personal experience, that is a dead end in this world. There are some exceptions - but they are extremely rare. About a month after we got back I knew there was no where for me to go with the feelings I had for this woman and I had to stop seeing her. Since I had been a major source of fun and income for her, it wasn't easy for either of us but she was a consummate pro - never pretended to be something more to me than she was. Eventually - almost a year later - my infatuation with her was broken and I was able to occasionally see her again withOUT setting that whole train in motion again.

My biggest caution - You say you are a "newbie" which tells me that you have not been seeing this woman this long. Before I took that lady on a whole week trip, we worked up to it. We had a spa weekend up on Austin and a trip to the hill country for a weekend. I would strongly recommend you try something like that before you start talking about a whole week on the other side of the world.

[JayceeRivers]

Originally Posted by A.Reader

I want to borrow her mind, her body, her smile, her laugh, her complete person when I am with her.

This is an amazing quote. Would you mind if I stole it?

[ywn]

Originally Posted by BusyLiving

I've done it - and it has upsides and downsides. I completely lost my head over one provider but I knew it was not something appropriate for this world and I went ahead anyway. We spent 8 days in Costa Rica and it was a blast. But here is the reality - if it goes spectacularly, you will bond with her even more and be even more attached to her and, in my personal experience, that is a dead end in this world. There are some exceptions - but they are extremely rare. About a month after we got back I knew there was no where for me to go with the feelings I had for this woman and I had to stop seeing her. Since I had been a major source of fun and income for her, it wasn't easy for either of us but she was a consummate pro - never pretended to be something more to me than she was. Eventually - almost a year later - my infatuation with her was broken and I was able to occasionally see her again withOUT setting that whole train in motion again.

My biggest caution - You say you are a "newbie" which tells me that you have not been seeing this woman this long. Before I took that lady on a whole week trip, we worked up to it. We had a spa weekend up on Austin and a trip to the hill country for a weekend. I would strongly recommend you try something like that before you start talking about a whole week on the other side of the world.

I'm pretty certain that's what I'm getting myself into. Although, I'd rather go through the fun, the affection, the fall and eventually the pain than going on my life wondering what if. If I burn in the process, it's just more motivation for work haha.

[burkalini]

I've done it twice. On one it was one of the best weeks I have had on vacation and the other I paid extra to send her home early. The second one I went over everything with her and made sure we both had alone time. The first one she turned into a bitch after the first night. Packed her up and sent her home even though I had to pay a lot more for the plane ticket.

[electric1]

My recommendation is you go the sugar route you mentioned previously. In my opinion, you are looking for the personal as much as the physical. With the type of money your vacation would entail, you could find 1-3 pretty sugar babies for a few months.

My own experience has been that the SB ladies would most fit your description.

[ywn]

Originally Posted by electric1

My recommendation is you go the sugar route you mentioned previously. In my opinion, you are looking for the personal as much as the physical. With the type of money your vacation would entail, you could find 1-3 pretty sugar babies for a few months.

My own experience has been that the SB ladies would most fit your description.

Where would you get sugar babies? seeking arrangement.com?

[Bijou Neko]

Originally Posted by Fancyinheels

Delightful that you are evidently in a place financially where you wouldn't have to care about the missed business opportunities when on a leisure trip, CP, but really, if a girl were in that place, she could afford to pay for her own vacations, which would make her even MORE likely to expect some type of remuneration as a companion.

Yup!