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Old 10-14-2011, 12:14 PM   #16
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Let's face it, we all know our socioeconomic staus. Gents want to be with their intellectual equal. Education, culture, manners, and how you carry yourself. Class can not be faked. You can dress up a ghetto lady ( we see them all the time in brand name stuff) but once she opens her mouth the gig us up. It does not hurt to be well read and know art history. A man wants to communicate with you in all forms not just sexually if he is looking for an HDH. They want to know you can walk into their office and not look like a hooker and not like the help. having stamps on your passport helps. I think they want to know you are well traveled and can relate to THEIR lifestyle.

You don't take your degree but when they talk Ebitda and you have a lost look they know you are not educated. I don't think they want to have to talk down to you.

I'll give you an example. Kimora Lee Simmons looks expensive yet she could not pass as an HDH. Not in a million years!

IMHO it is better to under sell and over deliver. If you have to mention class chances are you are not in the same class as your companion.
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IMHO, a high class provider is fundamentally no different from any other category of high class person. It has nothing to do with money other than the fact that you aren't overly impressed by money. It has everything to do with dignity and respect--for yourself and for others.
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Let's face it, we all know our socioeconomic staus. Gents want to be with their intellectual equal. Education, culture, manners, and how you carry yourself. Class can not be faked. You can dress up a ghetto lady ( we see them all the time in brand name stuff) but once she opens her mouth the gig us up. It does not hurt to be wel lread and know art history. A man wants to communicate with you in all forms not just sexually if he is looking for an HDH. They want to know you can walk into their office and not look like a hooker and not like the help. having stamps on your passport helps. I think they want to know you are well traveled and can relate to THEIR lifestyle.

You don't take your degree but when they talk Ebitda and you have a lost look they know you are not educated. I don't thik they want to have to talk down to you.

I'll give you an example. Kimora Lee Simmons looks expensive yet she could not pass as an HDH. Not in a million years!

IMHO it is better to under sell and over deliver. If you have to mention class chances are you are not in the same class as your companion.
In these times, socioeconomic status has nothing to do with class. Nowadays we're cranking out millionaires from below the poverty level, and making middleclassmen of millionaires. Stamps on your passport mean nothing. That in NO WAY makes you cultured. You can be right here in the US, hang out with different ethnic groups and be more cultured.

I agree with having diverse interests and having different fields of understanding, but I disagree that gents are expecting you to know everything. I'm a history buff (and yes, that includes art history) and I read a lot on certain topics, but finance is not really my thing. Because it's not my strong suit, my friend in the Finance industry has something to teach me. I got a degree in Poli Sci and I sucked at math. All I'm saying is don't tell a guy you have a Masters in Finance and you don't know what EBITDA is. Don't tell a guy you have a Poli Sci degree and you don't know the three branches of government. You can't just fake an education/or google terms on a certain topic for the purpose of impressing a date. You'll get embarrassed every time.

These attributes are not something one should work on to be a better companion, but to be a better person. Learning about new things should come naturally and it's obvious when it is.

I definitely recommend that all ladies take an etiquette class, and understand body language. I agree with how you carry yourself makes all the difference in where a man feels like he can take you. He should not think that all you're fit for is the bedroom.

+1 Willen...
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I definitely recommend that all ladies take an etiquette class, and understand body language. I agree with how you carry yourself makes all the difference in where a man feels like he can take you. He should not think that all you're fit for is the bedroom.
VERY well said.

Willen, I agree 100%.
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I am not a HDH, I probably could never be, well f*** it I could NEVER be.............but I think do think its funny when all someone talks about is how "classy" they are and how they are "unmatched" among other things................I see this kind of "act" as "ghetto classy" like they are trying to convince themselves more than anyone that they are
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Not as if this subject hasn't been discussed on every review board in the land; over and over again. In all my years as a mod and a hobbyist, I've never seen unanimous agreement.
Nevertheless, have at it ladies. It's always good for about five pages of posts.
First, let me go hide my spittoon and then we'll speak of etiquette!

Oh, and that's the first thing to do. I mean, not do! Don't spit in front of the company!
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In these times, socioeconomic status has nothing to do with class. Nowadays we're cranking out millionaires from below the poverty level, and making middleclassmen of millionaires.

I do agree that multimillionaires are all over and that in no way makes them cultured. I'm simply stating that we / they know our own status and seek the same or better. It's human nature. The new money are all over the place and they could easily hire and HDH. I'm simply stating that money does not = class. A poor man could have more class than a rich man.

Stamps on your passport mean nothing. That in NO WAY makes you cultured. You can be right here in the US, hang out with different ethnic groups and be more cultured.

I think that travel does matter. It exposes you to different cultures of the world and expands your knowlodge of the world. It also helps you relate to the HDH client who is well traveled. I thik the HDH client wants to feel you have been exposed o the world the way he has and you can relate on a different level.

I agree with having diverse interests and having different fields of understanding, but I disagree that gents are expecting you to know everything. I'm a history buff (and yes, that includes art history) and I read a lot on certain topics, but finance is not really my thing. Because it's not my strong suit, my friend in the Finance industry has something to teach me. I got a degree in Poli Sci and I sucked at math. All I'm saying is don't tell a guy you have a Masters in Finance and you don't know what EBITDA is. Don't tell a guy you have a Poli Sci degree and you don't know the three branches of government. You can't just fake an education/or google terms on a certain topic for the purpose of impressing a date. You'll get embarrassed every time.

My point in this statement is that most HDH clients are presidents or CEO's. Some financial knowledge is good to have and that can only come from an education. I don't think they want to have to dumb it down to anyone if they don't have to. If he's talking about his P&L statements and how bad or good they are that quarter they might like you to be able to understand. All I'm saying is when I worked my HDH clients liked the fact I spoke their language and it afforded me a great lifestyle on top of my day job. They were just the icing on the cake.

These attributes are not something one should work on to be a better companion, but to be a better person. Learning about new things should come naturally and it's obvious when it is.

I agree we should all try to grow and learn as people and the persuit of knowledge should never end. It make us better people and better able to accept and understand people as well.

I definitely recommend that all ladies take an etiquette class, and understand body language. I agree with how you carry yourself makes all the difference in where a man feels like he can take you. He should not think that all you're fit for is the bedroom.

I agree with you 100% on this topic.

+1 Willen...
I still offer Kimora Lee Simmons as an example of new money with no class. She could never be HDH status. She grates my every nerve!
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I don't know what others *may* consider a lady to be upscale or high class in this adult lifestyle.
But one thing I can assure you is NOT classy. Especially when a lady charges outrageous prices. Is for her to put herself on a pedestal (about how great she is) all while putting other ladies down. To brag day & day out about ALL the materialistic things men have given her, all while putting other ladies down. I can go on. But that's NOT a classy lady. No matter how you spin it.

That's my opinion.

To me, a woman of class doesn't need to brag or show off nor put others down to make-self look good. A woman of class is modest, sincere, and humble.




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I wonder what outrageous prices are in this economy? I have not taken a look lately. How high/low are they?

I still say under sell yourself and over provide. That always works well. The client never sees it coming when you have looks ( plus great skill level) , intelligence and intellect. I believe at the courtesan level you have all 3 to reach that status. That is the trifecta in my eyes.
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Sofia, totally agree with you on Traveling and under selling!

There is no such thing as outrageous pricing. If someone is paying it, it's not outrageous.
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This job has nothing to do with class ladies.

There is no such thing as a 'classy' HDH.

You are either classy person through and through 24/7 or not.

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So true. I would never behave the way I do online in public.
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So true. I would never behave the way I do online in public.
I think I'd be out of business if I did that!
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Two pages and going on three. Way to go ladies.

Here are a few thoughts for the grist mill.
An HDH starts her biz at about 24 yrs old. She can't start much earlier because it takes that long to learn how to conduct herself. She's out of the biz by about 35 having made enough money to keep her for the rest of her life.
She doesn't advertise; she networks. She devised ways to move in the economic strata where her customers are and she works hard to fit in. Her screening is for safety, disease and economic stability. She doesn't bother screening for LE because there are none at that level.
On her off time she spends much of her time in spas, gyms and libraries. Preparation never stops because every hair and muscle needs to be perfectly done. Her clothes are designer or fashionably casual as are her jewels, most of which were gifts. Her plastic surgeon is the best she can find and she won't have double D's.
Her dates don't pay her so much as they gift her but the gifts are understood to be in the 5 to 6 figures and don't bother asking her to be available for an evening, much less an hour, unless you are a highly regarded regular and she feels she'll be entertained. Her dates last a week or maybe a month. Oh and by the way, she travels on her dates dime - 1st class air is minimum but she much prefers to be picked up by his private jet.
As to her bedroom activities, she is an expert and she only says no when the activity isn't safe for her or will mark her.
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