If Xi Gives The Order To Invade Taiwan, What Should The US Do?

[Jackie S]

President Xi has stated that he will not pass the Taiwan Problem to another generation.

If Communist China decided to invade tomorrow, what should the US do?

Simple question.

[Strokey_McDingDong]

US should tell China to fuck off with all this COVID shit. Stop giving China and North Korea money.

[NoirMan]

I don’t know whether we have a defense treaty with Taiwan. If we do then we need to land troops as we did in Kuwait and uphold our commitment. Likely expanding our defense to adding a coalition Japanese and possibly other Asian nations. We would also have to know this would likely lead to a large scale conflict in Asia. I don’t believe there would be any nuclear exchange but the war would likely be devastating.

If no treaty then I suspect the Taiwanese would be on their own. I don’t think the US should be getting involved in large scale wars just to stop Chinese expansion into Taiwan.

In either case there’s no good answers.

[winn dixie]

Turn china into a glowing sheet of glass! With a few nukes oppsie missing and accidentally hitting north korea.

After that bull doze hong kong and return it back to nature.

[Tiny]

Tough one. What would you do Jackie S.?

Here's some food for thought, from the mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party, the Global Times, about the discovery that a small number of United States special forces personnel are training the Taiwanese,

The US and Taiwan island are most worried that the mainland is completing its military preparations for attacking Taiwan and is likely to resolve the Taiwan question by force or force Taiwan authorities to surrender in a few years or even a shorter period of time. Then we must clearly tell them that any act to strengthen the US-Taiwan collusion will further reinforce the mainland's resolve to realize reunification by force. It will also accelerate overall preparations for military actions and lead the critical moment to come earlier.

Second, we must resolutely define the deployment of US troops in Taiwan as an "invasion." The mainland has the right to carry out military strikes against them at any time. We will not make any promises over their safety. Once a war breaks out in the Taiwan Straits, those US military personnel will be the first to be eliminated. Through such a declaration, we must make Washington understand that it is playing a dangerous game that is destined to draw fire onto itself and it is risking the lives of young US soldiers.

Third, the mainland has the initiative to decide the timetable of when to take military strikes and the country will make overall decisions. Domestic cohesion and the public's high trust in the country are of critical importance. We must make the US and Taiwan island have a deep sense of crisis for the future and let them understand the rhythm of the cross-Straits situation is not decided by their plot. We won't dance to their tune but will crush their tricks with strategic aggressiveness.

The struggle across the Taiwan Straits is about a process, but is more about a result. The result is: The island will finally return to the embrace of the motherland. Both the US and Democratic Progressive Party authorities have had an increasing sense of urgency. This is determined jointly by the mainland's strength and will.

China is a nuclear power. US Strategic Command chief Charles Richard described our nuclear deterrence capabilities as "breathtaking." The absolute military advantage that the mainland has formed over Taiwan is sufficient to enable the former to take over the latter in one strike. If the US military participates in the war, it will be severely hit by the People's Liberation Army and suffer unbearable losses. As China's economic scale continues to approach that of the US, the so-called US sanctions have been unable to deter China. Resolving the Taiwan question through military means has become an increasingly realistic option.

As long as the mainland can realize its sustainable development and national unity in the game with the US and Taiwan island, it will prove the two's miscalculations. As the game cannot change the fundamental process of the mainland's rise, it will only make it easier and less costly for the mainland to realize reunification by force, thus strengthening the mainland's resolve. The whole process will make the US and Taiwan island desperate.

The US wants to strengthen Taiwan island's self-defense capabilities and increase its confidence in resisting the PLA through training the island's military forces. It's only wishful thinking. The US military had fully equipped and trained the Afghan government forces, but the army they built couldn't withstand even a single blow. The example of the Vietnam War also proves that US equipment and training have never been able to bolster the army's will to fight.

The secessionist authority in Taiwan overestimated itself, claiming to act as an outpost of the US to contain the mainland. But once the PLA launches a general offensive against the authorities on the other side of the Taiwan Straits, or even it issues an ultimatum before launching the attack, the world will see how weak and coward the Taiwan secessionists are.



https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202110/1235814.shtml

[WTF]

That is pretty long winded Tiny but all you have to do is look at Hong Kong and see wtf the British did.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by WTF

That is pretty long winded Tiny but all you have to do is look at Hong Kong and see wtf the British did.

Communists have a tendency to be long winded WTF. Marx's Das Kapital is 759 pages long.

Agreed, like the British handover of Hong Kong in 1997, I suspect we won't have their backs.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Tough one. What would you do Jackie S.?

Here's some food for thought, from the mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party, the Global Times, about the discovery that a small number of United States special forces personnel are training the Taiwanese,

The US and Taiwan island are most worried that the mainland is completing its military preparations for attacking Taiwan and is likely to resolve the Taiwan question by force or force Taiwan authorities to surrender in a few years or even a shorter period of time. Then we must clearly tell them that any act to strengthen the US-Taiwan collusion will further reinforce the mainland's resolve to realize reunification by force. It will also accelerate overall preparations for military actions and lead the critical moment to come earlier.

Second, we must resolutely define the deployment of US troops in Taiwan as an "invasion." The mainland has the right to carry out military strikes against them at any time. We will not make any promises over their safety. Once a war breaks out in the Taiwan Straits, those US military personnel will be the first to be eliminated. Through such a declaration, we must make Washington understand that it is playing a dangerous game that is destined to draw fire onto itself and it is risking the lives of young US soldiers.

Third, the mainland has the initiative to decide the timetable of when to take military strikes and the country will make overall decisions. Domestic cohesion and the public's high trust in the country are of critical importance. We must make the US and Taiwan island have a deep sense of crisis for the future and let them understand the rhythm of the cross-Straits situation is not decided by their plot. We won't dance to their tune but will crush their tricks with strategic aggressiveness.

The struggle across the Taiwan Straits is about a process, but is more about a result. The result is: The island will finally return to the embrace of the motherland. Both the US and Democratic Progressive Party authorities have had an increasing sense of urgency. This is determined jointly by the mainland's strength and will.

China is a nuclear power. US Strategic Command chief Charles Richard described our nuclear deterrence capabilities as "breathtaking." The absolute military advantage that the mainland has formed over Taiwan is sufficient to enable the former to take over the latter in one strike. If the US military participates in the war, it will be severely hit by the People's Liberation Army and suffer unbearable losses. As China's economic scale continues to approach that of the US, the so-called US sanctions have been unable to deter China. Resolving the Taiwan question through military means has become an increasingly realistic option.

As long as the mainland can realize its sustainable development and national unity in the game with the US and Taiwan island, it will prove the two's miscalculations. As the game cannot change the fundamental process of the mainland's rise, it will only make it easier and less costly for the mainland to realize reunification by force, thus strengthening the mainland's resolve. The whole process will make the US and Taiwan island desperate.

The US wants to strengthen Taiwan island's self-defense capabilities and increase its confidence in resisting the PLA through training the island's military forces. It's only wishful thinking. The US military had fully equipped and trained the Afghan government forces, but the army they built couldn't withstand even a single blow. The example of the Vietnam War also proves that US equipment and training have never been able to bolster the army's will to fight.

The secessionist authority in Taiwan overestimated itself, claiming to act as an outpost of the US to contain the mainland. But once the PLA launches a general offensive against the authorities on the other side of the Taiwan Straits, or even it issues an ultimatum before launching the attack, the world will see how weak and coward the Taiwan secessionists are.



https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202110/1235814.shtml

Forget about what Jackie would do. Ask the Million Dollar question, what would Joe Biden do? I would surmise nothing smart that's for sure. He proved that with Afghanistan.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by NoirMan

I don’t know whether we have a defense treaty with Taiwan. If we do then we need to land troops as we did in Kuwait and uphold our commitment.

Volunteer your own kids to go fight a half billion chicoms. We can’t take on a few goatfuckers these days, there’s zero chance we can defeat, or even drive out, an advanced nation like China on their own turf. Might as well give the troops anthrax, they’d have a better chance of survival than putting them on the ground in Taiwan.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

Sink every Chinese ship on the high seas. If they have troops on Taiwan they are stuck. Ship a bunch of anti-aircraft missiles to Taiwan. Shoot down anything that flies. A missile is cheaper than a plane. Ships take awhile to build.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by NoirMan

I don’t know whether we have a defense treaty with Taiwan. If we do then we need to land troops as we did in Kuwait and uphold our commitment. Likely expanding our defense to adding a coalition Japanese and possibly other Asian nations. We would also have to know this would likely lead to a large scale conflict in Asia. I don’t believe there would be any nuclear exchange but the war would likely be devastating.

If no treaty then I suspect the Taiwanese would be on their own. I don’t think the US should be getting involved in large scale wars just to stop Chinese expansion into Taiwan.

In either case there’s no good answers.

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

Sink every Chinese ship on the high seas. If they have troops on Taiwan they are stuck. Ship a bunch of anti-aircraft missiles to Taiwan. Shoot down anything that flies. A missile is cheaper than a plane. Ships take awhile to build.

We have troops in Taiwan and Navy ships in the South China sea.


Nuclear Sub Mystery Highlights Risk of China-US Miscalculation


https://www.voanews.com/a/nuclear-su...n/6269388.html

China calls about 90% of the South China Sea its own despite competing claims from the Philippines and three other Southeast Asian countries that are sympathetic to the West. Beijing claims all of Taiwan, a self-ruled island that's supported by Washington, and vies with Japan for control over parts of the East China Sea.

Successive U.S. presidents have seen their Asian allies as buffers against China in any showdown between superpowers. Treaties obligate Washington to consider helping its allies in military crises.

[Little Monster]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Communists have a tendency to be long winded WTF. Marx's Das Kapital is 759 pages long.

Agreed, like the British handover of Hong Kong in 1997, I suspect we won't have their backs.

True, but the Communist also have a tendency to kick America's ass. N. Korea, Vietnam, Russia, Cuba.
America doesn't want a war with China, it would not go well.

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by Little Monster

True, but the Communist also have a tendency to kick America's ass. N. Korea, Vietnam, Russia, Cuba.
America doesn't want a war with China, it would not go well.

Mutually assured. Sir.

[Jackie S]

From what I have rad, Taiwan has a pretty extensive defense system with the latest weaponry.

In a way, this would be a replay of Hitler’s operation Sea Lion, his master plan was to cross the English Channel and invade England. His generals explained to him that this was not like crossing a river, and casualties would be horrendous.

Even Hitler came to his senses.

What Xi is hoping is the Us will chicken out and say……”too many of our elected officials have way to many investments in China to risk it all helping Taiwan”.

It will be up to Taiwan to kill as many of the communist bastards that they can.

Maybe Xi will have a Hitler moment and realize that.

[HedonistForever]

Not quite sure what XI has in mind but it isn't a military conflict with the US. He is talking about a couple of years from now, they'll be in position to take back Taiwan. I think he believes that China will be in a far greater position militarily and economically in a few years and thinks that they will be so superior on the seas and be able to threaten our economy, that they can walk in and take Taiwan without firing a shot.


I don't believe XI wants to destroy Taiwan in order to claim it.