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Old 02-28-2017, 03:54 PM   #1
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Default Obamacare Repeal losing support among conservatives.

Some where you know President Obama is smiling and laughing :http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/poli...129486929.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/politi...ill/index.html
A slew of House conservatives are beginning to publicly oppose a draft of the Republican Obamacare repeal bill that was leaked last week, presenting a serious roadblock to the GOP's increasingly complicated efforts to dismantle the Affordable Care Act.

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Republican Rep. Mark Meadows, the chairman of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, told CNN on Monday that he cannot support a draft of the GOP Obamacare repeal bill unless substantial changes are made.
Hours later, Rep. Mark Walker, the chairman of the Republican Study Committee, announced that he, too, could not support the leaked version of the legislation.
By Tuesday morning, others were also openly airing their concerns. As he exited a House conference gathering, GOP Rep. Mark Sanford — the author of an alternative Obamacare repeal and replacement bill — told CNN that he could not support the legislation "in its present form." GOP Rep. David Brat, meanwhile, said that the majority of the Freedom Caucus would vote against the draft bill.
The mounting opposition come as top House Republicans are preparing to unveil legislation to repeal major portions of Obamacare and are struggling to bridge deep divisions within their own conference.
Meadows told CNN that what is unacceptable to him are the refundable tax credits included in the draft of the bill. Those tax credits, the North Carolina congressman said, are nothing short of an "entitlement program."
"What is conservative about a new entitlement program and a new tax increase? And should that be the first thing that the President signs of significance that we sent to the new President?" Meadows said in an interview. "A new Republican president signs a new entitlement and a new tax increase as his first major piece of legislation? I don't know how you support that -- do you?"
The congressman also took issue with the way the tax credits would be given out, arguing that it would make some wealthy individuals eligible.
"So the headline is that the GOP is reducing subsidies to needy individuals when in fact, the growth of the taxpayer-subsidized reimbursements will actually increase. The total dollars that we spend on subsidies will be far greater," he said. "So you can be a millionaire and not have employer-based health care and you're going to get a check from the federal government -- I've got a problem with that."
Asked whether the concerns were widespread within the Freedom Caucus, Meadows said plenty of others share his concerns and would also be willing to vote against the GOP Obamacare repeal bill -- though he declined to predict how many would be willing to draw a line in the sand.
Walker echoed Meadows, saying the draft bill "contains what increasingly appears to be a new health insurance entitlement with a Republican stamp on it."
"The draft legislation, which was leaked last week, risks continuing major Obamacare entitlement expansions and delays any reforms," Walker said in a statement. "It kicks the can down the road in the hope that a future Congress will have the political will and fiscal discipline to reduce spending that this Congress apparently lacks."
Walker said he would encourage other members of the Republican Study Committee to oppose the bill.
House Speaker Paul Ryan tried to downplay the rifts within his own party at a news conference Tuesday morning, insisting that there were no "rival plans" and that the House, Senate and White House are all working together.
"I feel at the end of the day when we get everything done and right, we're going to be unified on this," Ryan said.
And a senior GOP aide reacted with this statement: "Tax credits have long been a part of Republican health care plans, including the one authored by now-Secretary (Tom) Price that had broad support from members of the (Republican Study Committee) and Freedom Caucus."
A draft of the House Republican bill to repeal Obamacare obtained by CNN last week would replace the law's subsidies with less generous tax credits, increase the amount insurers could charge older Americans and more or less eliminate Medicaid for low-income adults.
The refundable tax credit would be given out based on age and range from $2,000 for those under 30 to $4,000 for those between ages 60 and 64.
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Old 02-28-2017, 04:05 PM   #2
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OThe thing about repealing it right now they are in the do something or get off the toilet position.
The problem Is you have to have something comparable to replace it with. I think if they actually had something they would have submitted it a long time ago instead all they have done is whine about everyone else and go on vacation.. Congress actually works about three days a month its pretty hard to come up with something in that kind of time limit that is beneficial to the majority and reduces overal costs.
the answer I think is simplicity itself..but doesn't benefit the lobbyists or puppet masters.
1 no discrimination anyone can purchase it no matter what.. If it costs more to them raise.prices accordingly 2 no price gouging product a costs the same no matter who is buying it no matter what..
3. Open the borders a product available in texas is available in new york insurance companies outside our country have the ability to compete with companies here..most have their headquarters outdide anyway for money reasons .. Pharmaceutical companies have a limited profit margin or you open the borders for consumers to buy medications from other countries.. Most of our medications are produced outside our country as it is. let companies compete and the ability to prchase medications from other countries all medications fast tracked for generic.. Right now they drag it out so they can reap high profits.
There is a reason why retirees head for the border during winter months the whole trip is paid for out of the savings on their meds.
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Old 02-28-2017, 04:11 PM   #3
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The thing about repealing it. Is you have to have something to replace it with.the answer is simplicity itself..but doesn't benefit the lobbyists or puppet masters. 1 no discrimination 2 no price gouging product a costs the same no matter who is buying it..
3. Open the borders a product abailane in texas is abailable in new york.. Pharmaceutical companies have a limited profit margin or you open the borders let companies compete and the ability to prchase.medications from other countries.
There is a reason why retirees head for the border during winter months the whole trip is paid for out pf the savings on their meds.
Very well stated- it's really refreshing to see someone respond without insults- thanks for your response.
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Old 02-28-2017, 04:17 PM   #4
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Very well stated- it's really refreshing to see someone respond without insults- thanks for your response.
does that give you a hardon fat ass
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Old 02-28-2017, 04:19 PM   #5
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Very well stated- it's really refreshing to see someone respond without insults- thanks for your response.
When are you?
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There is a reason why retirees head for the border during winter months the whole trip is paid for out of the savings on their meds.
This is what I do. Although I am on Medicare, I have the 'donut hole' to worry about, once I reach the 'donut hole' my out of pocket expense for drugs costs twice as much.
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