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Old 04-26-2011, 12:22 AM   #16
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The cops are allowed to lie and even break the law in order to bust you. There have been cases in some areas of the country of cops actualy having sex then arresting the hooker. Most PDs have specifc guidelines as to what an officer is allowed to do or not do but it varies a lot
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:33 AM   #17
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Isn't there a way to get a class B misdemeanor knocked down to a class C and if so how would one go about doing that and what are the punishments for a class C?
Prostitution cannot be dropped down to a lesser charge or class C Misd. It's a coded Offense not a case offense. A case offense means that various circumstances can enable the defense to have the charge lessened. The penal code for prostitution in all jurisdiction, where it is totally illegal is very specific. If a transaction for sex was established and excepted the crime of prostitution was committed.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:49 AM   #18
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Thanks for all the helpful INFO
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:22 AM   #19
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So , the logical consequence is :
It should not be any expressed intended sex involved , and it should not be payed for sex ....aha .... ))))) I hire my tourguide to show me around for long term , we make some trips in the agreed and mutually signed and sealed tourguide contract ..... and end up when ever we want in bed ...and do what ever we want , and how long we want .... and the whole stuff is " legal " because of our mutual sympathy and ignited chemistry .... aha ))) the " official " financial part has been done for guiding ...and can be aproved by restaurant bills and agreed and signed contract .... and the rest is a matter of two adult persons in their free time .... aha )) .... ladies , from now on you are all tourguides , open a legal company for guiding and showing arround your clients , and then I want to see a judge who challenges " sex for free " when the money was " issued " for tourguiding )))))))))))))))) ...what a crazy world :-D
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:48 AM   #20
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and then I want to see a judge who challenges " sex for free " when the money was " issued " for tourguiding )))))))))))))))) ...what a crazy world :-D
It isnt always a judge that must be convinced, if they go to trial they will have to convince the jury. If the prosecution has websites, emails, etc, it will be hard to get the jury to overlook that. Add in the moral stigma most people have about our hobby and it just gets harder...
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:27 PM   #21
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yeah... I remember " ... if the glove doesnt fit you have him to quitt .... " ... the jury / O.J. Simpson case ... however , a legal company has a website , an email , I know someone who sells hot dogs in NY and has a website .... what about " in dubio pro reo " ? And what if the client aproves that he hired intentionally a tourguide .... but you are right ... the " stigma " ....
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:41 PM   #22
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gggg))) next to my post is a banner for " adult vacation " , Companions Provided .... nomen est omen ))))))
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:54 PM   #23
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I can see my defense now....But your honor, based upon her service level, trust me she had no intent to arouse.....lol
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Old 04-26-2011, 01:13 PM   #24
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... the judge asked : " ... be more specific , so that I can spend my hard earned money with someone else with better level .... and you leave my court as a free horny man " LOL
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Old 04-26-2011, 03:13 PM   #25
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Lot of cute quips here, but in my book, by the time we are talking to a jury, a judge, or even still just the prosecutor, I have already been *ucked, and not in the way I was hoping for. No illusion of passion, no vaseline...
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Old 04-27-2011, 08:36 AM   #26
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by the time we are talking to a jury, a judge, or even still just the prosecutor, I have already been *ucked...
I totally agree. For alot of us, the criminal justice part of getting busted is just the tip of the iceberg of the shitstorm we would face....
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Old 04-27-2011, 11:27 PM   #27
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So , the logical consequence is :
It should not be any expressed intended sex involved , and it should not be payed for sex ....aha .... ))))) I hire my tourguide to show me around for long term , we make some trips in the agreed and mutually signed and sealed tourguide contract ..... and end up when ever we want in bed ...and do what ever we want , and how long we want .... and the whole stuff is " legal " because of our mutual sympathy and ignited chemistry .... aha ))) the " official " financial part has been done for guiding ...and can be aproved by restaurant bills and agreed and signed contract .... and the rest is a matter of two adult persons in their free time .... aha )) .... ladies , from now on you are all tourguides , open a legal company for guiding and showing arround your clients , and then I want to see a judge who challenges " sex for free " when the money was " issued " for tourguiding )))))))))))))))) ...what a crazy world :-D
Well everyone knows that many women play the escort game by hiding behind the umbrella of false pretenses. Its hard to uncover and identify. Thus they often go unnoticed as being escorts just as you explained. But it still what it is.
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Old 04-28-2011, 07:40 AM   #28
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ACP .... I agree completely .... there is a need for cover on the ladies / provider side and the more they expose themselve .... the higher is the risk to get busted. My thoughts were more in regards , how to " protect , " i.e. using such a legend " ,the two of them while they have the same interest ( enjoying themselfs ) . Too bad that a natural thing needs to be covered and camouflaged .... silly , simply silly . Cheers mate !
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:45 AM   #29
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So if it is not done in a "public place", are you off the hook?
That sounds like a fun argument.

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Define "it."
What if "it" refers to the proposition. So "it" = "solicits another ...to engage ...in sexual conduct for hire."

I assume the rest would take place in private parts, eh, I mean, in a private place.
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Old 04-28-2011, 12:15 PM   #30
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I had an interesting lunch this week. I had been considering getting out of hobbying and just getting a Sugar Baby. Went to a website for such (don't know if I am allowed to say which sight I was seeking arrangement from. A girl initiated contact with me. I pretty much dismissed it because her picture wasn't clear. She persisted. So finally we had lunch this week. While there, she began to say some curious phrases like, "This is perfect for me. I love sex. And I can get paid for having sex." When I told her that I was not even in the slightest going to pay her for sex. What I would do for any girlfriend with whom I was romantic is help her with other expenses, such as rent etc. But she needed to understand up front, that any sex would be because of our friendship, and any financial assistance I would give her would be because of our friendship as well, and specifically not for any sex. That would be illegal and I had no intention of engaging in illegal activities. She said, "Well, you have been very specific about our arrangement." I told her that if she assumed any arrangement would be for sexual favors, she had made a mistaken assumption. Then I told her I thought she was an undercover cop. She weakly denied it.

I sent her an email that night, laying it all out again, and telling her that if she would like to agree with me by email, we could then proceed with an arrangement under my specific intent.

Never heard back.

That's okay. How often do you get to buy a beautiful lady undecover cop a lunch?

Was sad though, she would have been pretty great.
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