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Old 01-31-2018, 08:12 AM   #196
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Yeah but what Trump did for me last night? He made me feel proud to be an American. He cares about our people in the military and he's doing things for our vets. He's a cheerleader for America - like any good CEO - he knows what his main job is and that is to protect America and Americans. Obamma just never seemed to grasp this concept.

As to your second question - I think it's going to depend on the person running. Nobody liked Hillary.






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I was watching college basketball last night. Great games!! To me the State of the Union address, whether by a Republican or Democrat, is BS piled on BS piled on more BS. As I've said many times, Trump and his team (he didn't do anything alone) deserve credit for the continuing improvement in the U.S. economy. An improvement started under Obama in 2009. Other than that, pretty much failure. Inflation higher than in the past. Have you seen the price of gas lately? Or food? Some changes to Obamacare but no repeal/replace, mainly because after 8 years of bitching about Obamacare the alternative offered by Republicans sucked worse. No money from Mexico for the wall, despite Trump's promises they would pay for it. No changes in security. No changes in trade agreements (NAFTA). A lot of talk about changes in immigration policy but nothing yet accomplished. etc., etc., etc.

About 9 months until 2018 election day. In 2016 Trump won the election mainly because people voted against Clinton. So what's the difference if Democrats gain control of the House because people vote against Trump's candidates rather than for the Democratic candidates?
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Old 01-31-2018, 08:30 AM   #197
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I was watching college basketball last night. Great games!! To me the State of the Union address, whether by a Republican or Democrat, is BS piled on BS piled on more BS. As I've said many times, Trump and his team (he didn't do anything alone) deserve credit for the continuing improvement in the U.S. economy. An improvement started under Obama in 2009. Other than that, pretty much failure. Inflation higher than in the past. Have you seen the price of gas lately? Or food? Some changes to Obamacare but no repeal/replace, mainly because after 8 years of bitching about Obamacare the alternative offered by Republicans sucked worse. No money from Mexico for the wall, despite Trump's promises they would pay for it. No changes in security. No changes in trade agreements (NAFTA). A lot of talk about changes in immigration policy but nothing yet accomplished. etc., etc., etc.

About 9 months until 2018 election day. In 2016 Trump won the election mainly because people voted against Clinton. So what's the difference if Democrats gain control of the House because people vote against Trump's candidates rather than for the Democratic candidates?

With the people in the Trump cult, it's not about what he has done. It's how he makes them feel. Sure he hasn't done things he said he would. Sure he says racist things. Sure he paid off a porn star. But he makes them feel like he's one of them, like he understands them. He makes them believe a man who was born rich really knows the plight of the poor or the working class. He makes them believe a man who has a history of racist actions really cares about black unemployment. He make them believe that even though he deferred serving in the military for "bone spurs" that he's all about the military. He made them believe he would be different and drain the swamp, yet we see today his director of the DCP had to step down for buying stock in tobacco after being appointed. He makes them believe all the nonsense and they never look up and say wait, what have you done? I mean besides a tax cut that will grossly help the rich. He has let China take over the deals with the TPP countries, he has let China take the lead on solar and wind. He wants us to pay for wall. He has killed tourism to American costing us jobs and dollars flowing in. He has dropped our trustworthiness in the world. He has divided us even more as a country. He is a racist. And they don't care about any of that because he makes them feel good. Obama didn't care about making you feel good. He cared about making sure you were good. He cared about your health, your jobs and your future. He didn't care if you liked him or not. The Trump cult is full of people who will look back and deep down say we fucked up. But they will never admit it out loud because they are in the cult and you don't admit stuff like that in a cult.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:08 AM   #198
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Yeah but what Trump did for me last night? He made me feel proud to be an American. He cares about our people in the military and he's doing things for our vets. He's a cheerleader for America - like any good CEO - he knows what his main job is and that is to protect America and Americans. Obamma just never seemed to grasp this concept.

As to your second question - I think it's going to depend on the person running. Nobody liked Hillary.
Protect Americans?
Syrian Muslim terrorists have killed zero Americans.Trump bans Syrians.
Saudi Muslim terrorists have killed 3000+ Americans.Saudi Muslims are not banned.
Check out the Trump budgets for airport security.
And the Coast Guard.
What happened to the military budget(including veterans) during the shutdown?
Good CEO?
Honestly,what's Trump's history for paying his bills?

But,hey, at least he promised taxpayers won't pay for the wall.

Obama?
1: Bin Laden
2: 20,000+ bombs on ISIS targets.

If Trump did that you'd have a raging boner.
Obama does it and,well,"he failed to grasp the concept".

But Trump makes you "feel good".
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:23 AM   #199
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Trey Gowdy, the chair of the House Oversight Committee isn't seeking reelection. Another high ranking Republican deciding not to run again in the House. The rate of members not seeking reelection is higher than normal. Yet Trump cult members will tell you there isn't a wave coming. That the House is safe. Do you really think that Gowdy would leave a high ranking position if he didn't think he would be knocked down to from that spot?
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:31 PM   #200
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Man, I just watched the rest of Joe Joe's speech - I fell asleep last night when he came on - anyway - I don't get it - the Democrats put up a drooling white boy from Massachusetts who looked like he was going to start crying at any minute --and with a name that is associated with power,money and whatever. I can't believe how out of touch those people are. If It were me - I would of asked Cory Booker...idk.
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:36 PM   #201
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Yes, he does make me feel good. I'm all about my vet's and he is too.










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Protect Americans?
Syrian Muslim terrorists have killed zero Americans.Trump bans Syrians.
Saudi Muslim terrorists have killed 3000+ Americans.Saudi Muslims are not banned.
Check out the Trump budgets for airport security.
And the Coast Guard.
What happened to the military budget(including veterans) during the shutdown?
Good CEO?
Honestly,what's Trump's history for paying his bills?

But,hey, at least he promised taxpayers won't pay for the wall.

Obama?
1: Bin Laden
2: 20,000+ bombs on ISIS targets.

If Trump did that you'd have a raging boner.
Obama does it and,well,"he failed to grasp the concept".

But Trump makes you "feel good".
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:04 PM   #202
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Wrong.
His proposed budget calls for budget cuts to disabled vets.

Still feel good?
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:15 PM   #203
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Yeah but what Trump did for me last night? He made me feel proud to be an American. He cares about our people in the military and he's doing things for our vets. He's a cheerleader for America - like any good CEO - he knows what his main job is and that is to protect America and Americans. Obamma just never seemed to grasp this concept.

As to your second question - I think it's going to depend on the person running. Nobody liked Hillary.
Trump is a fantastic speaker -- when he has a script in front of him written by professionals and he does not deviate from said script. Didn't use the word "shithole" once. Or ask that immigration policies put Norwegians first on the list.

When Obama was in office what did he do that you disagreed with? Just as with Trump, it is hard to argue with the success he had with the economy. And exactly what has Trump actually done regarding improving the lives of veterans. I'd like to know since I am a vet. Lowes Home Improvement stores give me a 10% discount for being a vet. More than Trump has done for me as far as I know.
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:01 PM   #204
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If Trump cares so much about the vets.... Then why is it I can no longer walk into my local VA clinic for healthcare anymore?

I have literally never been turned away locally, until now. My VA is down to 2 doctors and one nurse practitioner. Two weeks ago, they told me they were booked clear thru April.

I now have to drive to Dallas to be seen. I have never seen the VA so short staffed. Back in 2015 and 2016, they were fully staffed and extremely helpful. That has all changed, and it is highly unusual. Nobody in staff will say why.
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Old 01-31-2018, 02:02 PM   #205
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Wrong and yes. He cut the wait time down for vet's waiting to see a doctor. Also, he has reduced the waiting time for vet's to seek closure on their cases. Personally, my family has to wait 5 years - that is unacceptable.


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Wrong.
His proposed budget calls for budget cuts to disabled vets.

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Wow, so sorry to hear that. One thing you could do is contact your local representative and complain. My family contacted John Cornyn and he was very helpful. But this is totally unacceptable that you as a vet have to go thru this. I'm so sorry.



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If Trump cares so much about the vets.... Then why is it I can no longer walk into my local VA clinic for healthcare anymore?

I have literally never been turned away locally, until now. My VA is down to 2 doctors and one nurse practitioner. Two weeks ago, they told me they were booked clear thru April.

I now have to drive to Dallas to be seen. I have never seen the VA so short staffed. Back in 2015 and 2016, they were fully staffed and extremely helpful. That has all changed, and it is highly unusual. Nobody in staff will say why.
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Hi Ellen,

My boyfriend is a Trump supporter, and I find things I like and dislike in both Republican and Democrat policies.

The timing was weird. One of my vet client friends told me
about it. Then my local VA mailed letters to let us know. I had forgotten about it and stopped by a couple of weeks ago. That is when I was told about the staffing issue.

Obviously I lean Democrat, I bought my house with a rock bottom low interest rate in 2015. I have been going to the VA since 2002, in two different states. This is the first time ever that I have ever been told to go over 80 miles elsewhere because of the new staffing shortage. The timing of it happened as soon as Trump took office. I cannot help but think it plays a factor.

I have emailed Cornyn about something else and I was extremely disappointed with the response. I was concerned about the lifting of a ban on hunting to allow hunters to enter and shoot hibernating animals. Cornyn took forever to respond, and the response did not really address my concern and appeared very copy and paste. Probably done by staff. I do not think either Cornyn or Louie G. is about to do one single thing about it. I am positive they both are well aware of it. The clinic serves a population of over 105k.
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Old 01-31-2018, 05:43 PM   #208
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LOL Trumpy boy will be lucky if he makes it another year before being kicked out or forced into resignation.. Either way, he's a goner.. But he's good at twisting the truth to take credit for his predecessor's work, and the results.. Just another crooked politician, not unlike all of the previous and current office holders. I look forward to how his impending divorce works out as well.. Melania was NOT a happy camper last night, being forced by pomp and circumstance to attend that blowhards self congratulatory circus.
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Trump is a fantastic speaker -- when he has a script in front of him written by professionals and he does not deviate from said script. Didn't use the word "shithole" once. Or ask that immigration policies put Norwegians first on the list.

When Obama was in office what did he do that you disagreed with? Just as with Trump, it is hard to argue with the success he had with the economy. And exactly what has Trump actually done regarding improving the lives of veterans. I'd like to know since I am a vet. Lowes Home Improvement stores give me a 10% discount for being a vet. More than Trump has done for me as far as I know.

I’m going to have to strongly disagree with you here. Trump isn’t a fantastic speaker at all. He can motivate the right crowd well. He’s good a playing to that crowd, but he isn’t a great speaker at all. He is graded on a curve. If he doesn’t say racist things or threaten to blow up a country, it’s a solid speech. But he doesn’t understand cadence, tone, pace. That’s why he had the third longest SOTU address ever, while saying fewer words than others. This from a man who called Obama’s SOTU slow. It’s funny because Trump just keeps reminding people how underrated Obama was. Obama was an amazing orator. And people took that for granted. Now with Trump you see a man who talks like a 9 year old because he thinks like one. He has a limited vocabulary and it shows. Not to mention you can tell he doesn’t prep for his speeches. Since he isn’t great at it, he doesn’t even realize that he’s got a tell. Watch and you can tell he is reading a speech for the first time when he comes across something he agrees with and didn’t know was there. He reads it, says it and then says that’s very true.

They will say that the economy under Obama wasn’t great. Like Trump last night saying we have wage growth finally under him, but that was lie. They will try to use any “yeah but” they can to discredit the goods Obama did. And then Trump will try to take credit for the things Obama made happen. Trump only likes the military because it helps with his base. He dodged joining it. He insulted John McCain, the Kahns, and the widow of Johnson. He blamed the generals for a field mission. He didn’t even push the Republicans in Congress to go with the Democratic bill to keep funding the military when the shutdown was about to take place. He doesn’t care about the soldiers, he cares about the show of force the military provides and the easy cheers he gets from mentioning them. But his cult followers will keep pretending that he has done so much for the military and the vets. And when vets continuously say no, they will trust Trump more.
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Wrong and yes. He cut the wait time down for vet's waiting to see a doctor. Also, he has reduced the waiting time for vet's to seek closure on their cases. Personally, my family has to wait 5 years - that is unacceptable.
So you're actually denying that his proposed budget cuts funds to disabled vets?
Wow...
Evidence?
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