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1blackman1 · 05-09-2023, 01:57 PM

Not found to have committed Rape. Good for him. Found however to have sexually assaulted Jean “not his type” Carrol. Not sure that makes him any better a person.

And he was found to have defamed her. She was awarded 5 million.

reddog1951 · 05-09-2023, 02:50 PM

Can he raise $5 million without selling or mortgaging something?

Salty Again · 05-09-2023, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Not found to have committed Rape. Good for him. Found however to have sexually assaulted Jean “not his type” Carrol. Not sure that makes him any better a person.

And he was found to have defamed her. She was awarded 5 million.

... Crikey! ... THAT heading surely must o' hurt you to write!

I reckon that I don't understand the "no rape" but still
"sexual assault" -- that's a new one onto me.

However, it WILL be overturned on appeal.
Maybe the appeal will still hold the defamation - we'll see.

And what the piss?! ... You mention the assault
- but somehow forgot the BATTERY!

Reckon these are the new laws in America.
Just bring a lawsuit - no evidence - and get money. $$$$

No doubt Tara Reade will be next.

#### Salty

1blackman1 · 05-09-2023, 03:46 PM

Sexual Assault was the term that was used. Had they said Sexual Battery I woulda called him a Sexual Batterer.

I’d be surprised if the court of appeals overturns the factual findings in a civil case. That’d be extremely difficult as they’d have to essentially be wrong on the finding of fact in some ridiculous manner. Ain’t happening. He will legally be Sexual Assaulter Trump.

At least he doesn’t have to register as a sex offender.

Tiny · 05-09-2023, 04:21 PM

How much do you think Carroll’s lawyers got? Do you think the total legal fees on both sides exceeded the $5 million award? And if Trump had just said “Hell yeah, I fucked her, and she was one damn good piece of ass,” do you think she would have dropped the case?

He never should have said she was too ugly to fuck. “She’s not my type.” What the hell was he thinking?

Seriously, I don’t think I entirely buy that this happened or if it did that it was entirely nonconsensual. It allegedly happened in a department store dressing room. All she’d have to do was start screaming and he would have stopped or been arrested.

1blackman1 · 05-09-2023, 04:35 PM

I suspect he lawyers will get around 40-50% of her take. 40 is pretty standard but there was likely some additional expenses so something over 40 will most likely be the amount.

She says she wouldn’t have sued if he denied it but he took it to the point of calling her crazy and essentially ugly. She was a college cheerleader and Ms Indiana so I doubt she was an ugly woman even 30 years ago.

Had Sexual Assaulter Trump said, instead of denying and calling her names, “we got it on in the dressing room but I didn’t rape her, it was consensual” Sexual Assaulter Trump likely woulda been fine and it woulda be he said she said when she wrote her book. According to her, It was defaming and belittling her that ended up costing Sexual Assaulter Trump. A 5 mil 2 min quickie seems like a pretty stupid choice.

Sexual Assaulter Trump coulda gone and testified. He coulda defended himself but decided not to.

Tiny · 05-09-2023, 04:47 PM

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned."

Salty Again · 05-09-2023, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiny

How much do you think Carroll’s lawyers got? Do you think the total legal fees on both sides exceeded the $5 million award? And if Trump had just said “Hell yeah, I fucked her, and she was one damn good piece of ass,” do you think she would have dropped the case?

He never should have said she was too ugly to fuck. “She’s not my type.” What the hell was he thinking?

Seriously, I don’t think I entirely buy that this happened or if it did that it was entirely nonconsensual. It allegedly happened in a department store dressing room. All she’d have to do was start screaming and he would have stopped or been arrested.

... She also claimed that she was RAPED by
Les Moonvs - from CBS...

Do YOU also believe THAT claim??

### Salty

1blackman1 · 05-09-2023, 05:18 PM

I’d be less shocked if he raped her. Casting couch and all. Who woulda thought Harvey raped 10s of women. It’s pretty consistent with what Trump stated in his Access Hollywood tape.

Levianon17 · 05-09-2023, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Sexual Assault was the term that was used. Had they said Sexual Battery I woulda called him a Sexual Batterer.

I’d be surprised if the court of appeals overturns the factual findings in a civil case. That’d be extremely difficult as they’d have to essentially be wrong on the finding of fact in some ridiculous manner. Ain’t happening. He will legally be Sexual Assaulter Trump.

At least he doesn’t have to register as a sex offender.

Nope he sure doesn't and because it was a civil case he doesn't have a Criminal record either. Which in turn means he is still eligible to run for President and be nominated.

1blackman1 · 05-09-2023, 08:23 PM

He can run for president regardless of a criminal record. That’s irrelevant to whether one can run.

Tiny · 05-09-2023, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty Again

... She also claimed that she was RAPED by
Les Moonvs - from CBS...

Do YOU also believe THAT claim??

### Salty

Salty, Please read what I wrote again. Where did I say I believed her claim?

Google "Hideous Men Carroll". You'll come across a very entertaining article. I'm not linking it here for reasons that will be obvious if you read the piece.

Trump and Moonves are the tip of the iceberg. There were 19 other equally "hideous men" in the life of E. Jean Carroll. And that's not counting those like Hunter S. Thompson, who told her, "'Off with your pants!' as he sliced the leggings from my body with a long knife in his hot tub." This woman has gotten in a lot of very dicey situations with men.

So why did she forever stop having sex after the alleged incident with Trump? Why was she so traumatized that she's now unable to maintain a relationship with a man, according to her testimony? Well, I'd suspect it's because (a) this is about politics, and (b) Trump has a lot more money than those other 20 men. Her lawyers figured they could make a buck off of this, and they did. Two million dollars by Blackman's estimation. She may just be out and out lying.

I'd like to close with a quote from William Shakespeare:

The first thing we do, let's kill all the plaintiffs' lawyers.

I'm making a special accommodation for Blackman here. Plaintiffs' lawyers.

Levianon17 · 05-09-2023, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 1blackman1

He can run for president regardless of a criminal record. That’s irrelevant to whether one can run.

Yeah, that's something that needs to change. There wouldn't be so many Democrats getting elected.

Lucas McCain · 05-09-2023, 10:30 PM

Well, there goes the money he made from his stupid ass trading cards. So much for the limited-edition version when he puts another round of that bullshit out on the market to scrounge up some more money from a bunch of fools.

1blackman1 · 05-10-2023, 05:57 AM

No accommodation needed as I’m a defense attorney not a plaintiffs lawyer. But let’s not get rid of them as they make me plenty of money, takes both of us for me to get paid.

I feel for Carrol as she clearly believes that plenty of bad situations happened to her. I’ve never been accused of sexual abuse, assault, battery or rape, especially not by 16-17 women. I’ve also never told anyone that I could get away with sexually assaulting women. In fact I’d say that abhorrent behavior and would never chalk it up to “locker room” banter. Never heard anyone in any locker room I’ve been in talk like that.

So now Trump is officially Lying Sexual Assaulter Trump forever more.

This is just the start for him. GA indictment is next up I believe.