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Old 03-15-2012, 04:26 PM   #61
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just because my comments differ from yours you assume Im a liberal or have enemy empathy .. sorry joe, your head is fucked up in that regard.


who said


over time, 900 million people have died in religious wars, 3 times the US population.

no religion is immune


liberalize that all you want pal.
Are you telling me you're not a liberal? I've read several of your posts. You sound liberal to me. Maybe you're just confused.
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:59 PM   #62
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Joe said: Not lately. Where have jews been allowed to live peacefully under Islamic rule. Are you talking about the Spanish Moors?

***Obviously, that isn't the way it is today mate. If they wanted peace then they could start by letting our archaeologists excavate underneath "The Kotel, Or, Ha Kotel if you prefer the Ivrit(Hebrew)". Oops, I'm sorry I forgot to mention that is the wailing wall. I'll stop there as I'm about to become insulting to another persons religious beliefs. Another argument for another time. I'll keep that in me pocket for now. I doubt they'd want people to start saying, "erm your religion is bullshit!" (Said, in the tone Lewis Black uses to insult.) As far as I am concerned all religion is a wee bit of a divisive tool. Believe in the bloody Easter Bunny if ya want. I could really give a toss what peoples religious beliefs are unless they start putting tattooed numbers on my forearm. Then I do indeed have an issue!
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:25 PM   #63
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Are you telling me you're not a liberal? I've read several of your posts. You sound liberal to me. Maybe you're just confused.

born and bred Texas fiscal conservative, registered independent ... like I said, just because what I say differs from the normal lockstep right wing fanatical horseshit, you assume Im a liberal. The fact reamins grassroot conservatives want nothing more than to distance themselves form the idiots who call themselves right wing anything seperating themselves form sane rationale.

thats what Im telling you.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:40 PM   #64
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born and bred Texas fiscal conservative, registered independent ... like I said, just because what I say differs from the normal lockstep right wing fanatical horseshit, you assume Im a liberal. The fact reamins grassroot conservatives want nothing more than to distance themselves form the idiots who call themselves right wing anything seperating themselves form sane rationale.

thats what Im telling you.
'Assume' has nothing to do with it. CBJ7, the horseshit you post is demonstrably Kool Aid drinking 'liberalism'. You are either a liar or you are in abject self-denial.
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Old 03-15-2012, 05:57 PM   #65
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'Assume' has nothing to do with it. CBJ7, the horseshit you post is demonstrably Kool Aid drinking 'liberalism'. You are either a liar or you are in abject self-denial.
I think he's confused.
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:01 PM   #66
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'Assume' has nothing to do with it. CBJ7, the horseshit you post is demonstrably Kool Aid drinking 'liberalism'. You are either a liar or you are in abject self-denial.

I rest my case.
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:03 PM   #67
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Got to love it when the so called followers of Christ make excuses for their unchristian like actions because they were only seeking revenge for what Muslims did first???????????????????

As I said earlier.....I thought the opening thread was talking about Christianity! Far too many Christians should heed the teachings of Christ. Unfortunately...they choose to ignore them.
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:17 PM   #68
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Got to love it when the so called followers of Christ make excuses for their unchristian like actions because they were only seeking revenge for what Muslims did first???????????????????
Why the fuck not? You were motivated by some sense of petty revenge when you made this second post to justify and defend your first, dismal post. Yet, you would demean other men for struggling to defend things they consider holy. So you are a fucking hypocrite.

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As I said earlier.....I thought the opening thread was talking about Christianity! Far too many Christians should heed the teachings of Christ. Unfortunately...they choose to ignore them.
Again with the juvenile posts. Go back to kindergarten.
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Old 03-15-2012, 07:18 PM   #69
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I rest my case.
A case of unadulterated Kool Aid.
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Actually, Christianity and Judaism evolved from the ancient Sumerian Sun Worship. Christianity is also quite similar to Egyptian mythology. And if you want a real wild interpretation, read The Twelfth Planet by Zechariah Sitchin.
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Actually, Christianity and Judaism evolved from the ancient Sumerian Sun Worship. Christianity is also quite similar to Egyptian mythology. And if you want a real wild interpretation, read The Twelfth Planet by Zechariah Sitchin.
This is getting way to deep for me. I'm going to bed.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:53 AM   #72
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Actually, Christianity and Judaism evolved from the ancient Sumerian Sun Worship. Christianity is also quite similar to Egyptian mythology. And if you want a real wild interpretation, read The Twelfth Planet by Zechariah Sitchin.
Herodotus is wild enough. Thank you.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:36 AM   #73
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The Crusades, the Inquisition, Nazi Germany, the Attack on Pearl Harbor, the Salem Witch Trials and the Mountain Meadows Massacre by Mormons in 1857 must have been those dastardly Muslims masquerading as Christians or some other religious group.

Come to think of it, things weren't that "civil" in the Civil War, either.
Every group that bases their philosophy on blindly following the biasedly translated words of an "enlightened" leader hundreds or thousands of years ago shares some common traits:

--THIER leader was special, different, and we must follow them without thinking

--THEIR holy book is beyond questioning, and anyone who does question it--even internal contradictions in it--are evil people not to be listened to

--THEIR message teaches peace and harmony--and that message is so important that they are allowed to kill others who stand in the way of world conversion

--ANYONE ELSE who shows these traits is evil because they don't have the right super secret name for god

Stevie, add the Inquisition, the Cultural Revolution, the colonialization of the western hemisphere, the Oklahoma City bombings, the Serb-Croat atrocities, Gulags, the Vanintine's Day massacre to your list of Islamic atrocities.

Before I read "Loving" Kayla's diatribe (wow, I haven't seen an adjective used that poorly in a LONG time!) I never realized Al Capone and Papa Joe Stalin were Muslims! Thanks for enlightening me.

ALL religions are susceptible to wacko fanatics who truly believe god created us with brains intending us not to use them. ALL religions have wacko fanatics who confuse "love thy neighbor" with "kill the heretic". If someone doesn't believe this, just reread Kayla, Joe Blow, and I B Hankering on this thread. They are dripping with hate. And before they (or a few others) bring out their pabulum "you're a stupid liberal", this is not about liberalism or conservatism, it's about thinking and being brainwashed with hate.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:48 AM   #74
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Every group that bases their philosophy on blindly following the biasedly translated words of an "enlightened" leader hundreds or thousands of years ago shares some common traits:

--THIER leader was special, different, and we must follow them without thinking

--THEIR holy book is beyond questioning, and anyone who does question it--even internal contradictions in it--are evil people not to be listened to

--THEIR message teaches peace and harmony--and that message is so important that they are allowed to kill others who stand in the way of world conversion

--ANYONE ELSE who shows these traits is evil because they don't have the right super secret name for god

Stevie, add the Inquisition, the Cultural Revolution, the colonialization of the western hemisphere, the Oklahoma City bombings, the Serb-Croat atrocities, Gulags, the Vanintine's Day massacre to your list of Islamic atrocities.

Before I read "Loving" Kayla's diatribe (wow, I haven't seen an adjective used that poorly in a LONG time!) I never realized Al Capone and Papa Joe Stalin were Muslims! Thanks for enlightening me.

ALL religions are susceptible to wacko fanatics who truly believe god created us with brains intending us not to use them. ALL religions have wacko fanatics who confuse "love thy neighbor" with "kill the heretic". If someone doesn't believe this, just reread Kayla, Joe Blow, and I B Hankering on this thread. They are dripping with hate. And before they (or a few others) bring out their pabulum "you're a stupid liberal", this is not about liberalism or conservatism, it's about thinking and being brainwashed with hate.
Are you actually endorsing the BS Little Blind Boy posted? If you are, you are just as retarded as that stupid asshole. What he posted was nonfactual bullshit that Kool Aid drinking liberals thrive on. You are unable to refute a single post against his lying ass, so you resort to ad hominem attack stating that those you disagree with are filled with hate. Deal with specifics and justify with facts Little Blind Boy's - if you can. Otherwise, blow it out liberal, Kool Aid drinking ass. You are the one who is brainwashed if you believe that Little Blind Boy made a factual post.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:48 AM   #75
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Every group that bases their philosophy on blindly following the biasedly translated words of an "enlightened" leader hundreds or thousands of years ago shares some common traits:

--THIER leader was special, different, and we must follow them without thinking

--THEIR holy book is beyond questioning, and anyone who does question it--even internal contradictions in it--are evil people not to be listened to

--THEIR message teaches peace and harmony--and that message is so important that they are allowed to kill others who stand in the way of world conversion

--ANYONE ELSE who shows these traits is evil because they don't have the right super secret name for god

Stevie, add the Inquisition, the Cultural Revolution, the colonialization of the western hemisphere, the Oklahoma City bombings, the Serb-Croat atrocities, Gulags, the Vanintine's Day massacre to your list of Islamic atrocities.

Before I read "Loving" Kayla's diatribe (wow, I haven't seen an adjective used that poorly in a LONG time!) I never realized Al Capone and Papa Joe Stalin were Muslims! Thanks for enlightening me.

ALL religions are susceptible to wacko fanatics who truly believe god created us with brains intending us not to use them. ALL religions have wacko fanatics who confuse "love thy neighbor" with "kill the heretic". If someone doesn't believe this, just reread Kayla, Joe Blow, and I B Hankering on this thread. They are dripping with hate. And before they (or a few others) bring out their pabulum "you're a stupid liberal", this is not about liberalism or conservatism, it's about thinking and being brainwashed with hate.
Your post is silly. There is a fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity. Muslims believe that the Koran is the LITERAL word of god dictated to Mohammad. Christians believe that the Bible is the INSPIRED word of god. The difference is critical. One allows for the possibilty of different interpretations: the other does not. One allows for the possibility of reformation; the other does not.

If you want to point out Christian abuses from the last two thousand years you certainly can. But no fair minded person can say that modern day Christiantiy is similar to modern day Islam in abuses of human rights.
Here's an example of modern day Islam (sharia law) in action.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17379721

Islam leaves no room for differences of opinion in interpeting the Koran. If you criticize the Koran they kill you. If you try to leave the faith, they kill you. Liberals like you that are eager to draw moral equivalences between Judeo-Christian based western civilization and the Islamists are a danger to our survival.

PS
Listing the Oklahoma City bombing as an example of Christian extremism is a lie. Timothy McVeigh by his own account was agnostic.
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