Have Clients Spoilt Your Relationships With Other Men?

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by bladtinzu

If it raises the bar... Sorry I just cannot fathom the gross ineptitude that goes with that one statement. I am quite sure all the married guys who see escorts because their SO just fucking sucks as a wife has bettered that relationship by seeing escorts. The fact is escorts are way cheaper than divorce.....

I think escorts do improve marriages, but not because the SO sucks at being a wife, that is - IMHO - a little gross and exaggerated. But of course escorts have been for centuries the helpers for the marital passion going away after a while. It`s a different dynamic.

I think if a married guy chooses an escort, and an escort is married, they would face the same implications - over time.

Hence I don`t believe in the bigger , better, faster game some like to play. Hence I don`t believe that SO or wives suck at being partners. That would be too simple.

[Chloe Kensington]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

I think escorts do improve marriages, but not because the SO sucks at being a wife, that is - IMHO - a little gross and exaggerated. But of course escorts have been for centuries the helpers for the marital passion going away after a while. It`s a different dynamic.

I think if a married guy chooses an escort, and an escort is married, they would face the same implications - over time.

Hence I don`t believe in the bigger , better, faster game some like to play. Hence I don`t believe that SO or wives suck at being partners. That would be too simple.

I totally agree - and clients have told me that too. At least to nowhere near the same degree.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by Chloe Kensington

I totally agree - and clients have told me that too. At least to nowhere near the same degree.

It?s a century old code: Passion versus stability and friendship. A marriage offers stability and friendship and to keep this, the passion has to be calmed down to make the day to day life going good. Idf this did not happen, the instability due to the passionate force would cause a lot of problems and fights would destabilize the marriage and the couple would not be kept together for a "higher" force, as raising children, or love, or being partners for a longer time than a few years.

Affairs are for passion. Which means they are unstable, and need that instability to survive. Affairs don`t last, usually, since even in these, the passion goes away, if you don`t revive it through enough distance.

It`s a game of distance versus closeness. Both comes with costs. Amour Fou versus Reliability.

Marriages need to be stable and stabilised.
These are different qualities within a relationship, nothing that can be compared, or can include each other.

The "roles" exclude each other, but they intertwine. It`s actually very simple.

[dreamvacationdates]

Originally Posted by Tatiana M.

Personally, ecorting has effected my dating life in the respect that I will no longer put up with disrespect from civie men. The "clients" have treated me better than any boyfriend I've ever had. As crazy as this sounds, it's the truth. Another thing, since escorting my standards for dating a civie have increased tremendously. The little things that I would put up with before, I wouldn't tolerate in a NY minute now. When I do date someone, I tend to end things pretty quickly when their mind games begin to start. Where in the past I would be willing to work on things, give my all. So I believe escorting has given me a spine, where before escorting I was spineless.

So I have no desire to go back to dating. All of my past boyfriends took me for granted. Many people do find it suspect that I am so happy being single for so long. Friends/family wonder how I could be "alone" for as long as I have. They don't know that I'm not nearly as lonely as they think. I get my jollies from the guys I meet at night. But of course, I don't tell them this. Someday, I do hope to meet my soul mate. But I'm not looking.

The dynamics with a client and someone that wants to date you is totally different.

A Client has made a monetary committment.. he's all in and wants results and willing to pay for it, all the time. in other words your there because he pays you

A Date only makes a time contribution.. he alright if you do and alright if you don't, he's not going to pay for it, at least not with a filled envelope on the night stand. in other words your there because you want to.

[dreamvacationdates]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

I think escorts do improve marriages, but not because the SO sucks at being a wife, that is - IMHO - a little gross and exaggerated. But of course escorts have been for centuries the helpers for the marital passion going away after a while. It`s a different dynamic.

I think if a married guy chooses an escort, and an escort is married, they would face the same implications - over time.

Hence I don`t believe in the bigger , better, faster game some like to play. Hence I don`t believe that SO or wives suck at being partners. That would be too simple.

If a client had to deal with the everyday lives of most providers he would most likely feel the same about her as his S.O.

The whole point is that you don't have to deal with it, you don't have to be around them when they are sick, you don't have to deal with their kids, you don't have to deal with their real personality, or car break down, or any of the trials and tribulations of their life.

So the fantasy is a short term alternative universe, as long as it doesn't cross over into reality.
If you let your fantasy affect your reality in the long term I think you will have problems.

[Tatiana M.]

Originally Posted by dreamvacationdates

The dynamics with a client and someone that wants to date you is totally different.

A Client has made a monetary committment.. he's all in and wants results and willing to pay for it, all the time. in other words your there because he pays you

A Date only makes a time contribution.. he alright if you do and alright if you don't, he's not going to pay for it, at least not with a filled envelope on the night stand. in other words your there because you want to.

I totally agree. The dynamics between a civie date and a hobby date are completely different. Regardless, the hobbyists I've met (in general, of course) have always treated me better than any civie boyfriend. Being with a hobbyist who treats you well for that hour or two, plus getting paid, has made going back to the BS of dating civies difficult. And thats why I drop so many civie boyfriends. I've finally realized I don't need to be somewhere I don't want to be. I'm not jaded! All of this is a good thing! I have a leg to stand on now -in relationships. I know my worth. Plus, once someone treats you well, regardless of WHO they are, or why your hanging out with them, it's hard to go back to hanging out with people who treat you any less.

[dreamvacationdates]

Remember one thing.... your getting older, one day the client well in going to dry up and you won't be getting all the callers anymore, so if you're still single you'll have to deal with the reality of dating civie guys, don't become so jaded that you end up alone.

No matter how beautiful or sexy you are, one day that's going to fade and the next pretty young thing will be the toast of the town and in this business that's for certain. it going to be a good ride, but all good things do come to and end.

[Chloe Kensington]

Originally Posted by Tatiana M.

Personally, ecorting has effected my dating life in the respect that I will no longer put up with disrespect from civie men. The "clients" have treated me better than any boyfriend I've ever had. As crazy as this sounds, it's the truth. Another thing, since escorting my standards for dating a civie have increased tremendously. The little things that I would put up with before, I wouldn't tolerate in a NY minute now. When I do date someone, I tend to end things pretty quickly when their mind games begin to start. Where in the past I would be willing to work on things, give my all. So I believe escorting has given me a spine, where before escorting I was spineless.

So I have no desire to go back to dating. All of my past boyfriends took me for granted. Many people do find it suspect that I am so happy being single for so long. Friends/family wonder how I could be "alone" for as long as I have. They don't know that I'm not nearly as lonely as they think. I get my jollies from the guys I meet at night. But of course, I don't tell them this. Someday, I do hope to meet my soul mate. But I'm not looking.

I like this.

As in; "Are you f---ing kidding me??? (I can get treated a lot better than this and paid for it too...)"

[Chloe Kensington]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

It?s a century old code: Passion versus stability and friendship. A marriage offers stability and friendship and to keep this, the passion has to be calmed down to make the day to day life going good. Idf this did not happen, the instability due to the passionate force would cause a lot of problems and fights would destabilize the marriage and the couple would not be kept together for a "higher" force, as raising children, or love, or being partners for a longer time than a few years.

Affairs are for passion. Which means they are unstable, and need that instability to survive. Affairs don`t last, usually, since even in these, the passion goes away, if you don`t revive it through enough distance.

It`s a game of distance versus closeness. Both comes with costs. Amour Fou versus Reliability.

Marriages need to be stable and stabilised.
These are different qualities within a relationship, nothing that can be compared, or can include each other.

The "roles" exclude each other, but they intertwine. It`s actually very simple.

Nina I don't want to agree with you, but you are such a good writer, I hope your words get out to more than here. I'm sure you would/perhaps do create such great works.

[Chloe Kensington]

Originally Posted by dreamvacationdates

So the fantasy is a short term alternative universe....

Well said, but I think it can be good to leave the door open for more.

[Chloe Kensington]

Originally Posted by Tatiana M.

... Once someone treats you well, regardless of WHO they are, or why your hanging out with them, it's hard to go back to hanging out with people who treat you any less.

We're all fabulous, on either side of the coin. The sooner we all realise this, the better the world will be.

[am-a-pleaser]

I appreciate ladies who take a little extra time to impress me. Escorts are used to doing that. Even if everything is bcd, ladies do their best to make sure a guy is pleased. Dinner dates, other outside events, the ladies are used to acting and dressing to impress. They carry themselves well, and pay attention to the guy. I actually pay attention to the lady I'm with as well. Hour dates, multi-hour dates, dinner dates, overnights, and trips together with an escort are special.


Not too long ago, I took a massage provider to Vegas. We stayed in a Penthouse suite at the Bellagio. Limo service, private VIP check in. I treated her to her own spa treatment away from me. We dined well, saw a show and had time without anything planned. We spent time together, and time apart.


She truly appreciated the experience, the spoiling. She spoiled me in return. There is a certain level of respect, appreciation and gratitude in the hobby that gets lost in civie dating and relationships.


Ladies in the hobby appreciate everything more than civie ladies. As a result, I enjoy the chances I get to spoil ladies in the hobby. So, yes, hobbying does have an affect on other relationships. But, it would seem like the occasional spoiling of a lady makes other things tolerable for her.


Even in a civie relationships, little things can show appreciation. All it takes is a little observation, a little thought, an unexpected pleasant surprise. The honestly believe passion can stay fresh. It takes dedication because life events do occur.


I have many other thoughts, but will let others add to this wonderful discussion.

[Chloe Kensington]

Originally Posted by am-a-pleaser

I appreciate ladies who take a little extra time to impress me. Escorts are used to doing that. Even if everything is bcd, ladies do their best to make sure a guy is pleased. Dinner dates, other outside events, the ladies are used to acting and dressing to impress. They carry themselves well, and pay attention to the guy. I actually pay attention to the lady I'm with as well. Hour dates, multi-hour dates, dinner dates, overnights, and trips together with an escort are special.


Not too long ago, I took a massage provider to Vegas. We stayed in a Penthouse suite at the Bellagio. Limo service, private VIP check in. I treated her to her own spa treatment away from me. We dined well, saw a show and had time without anything planned. We spent time together, and time apart.


She truly appreciated the experience, the spoiling. She spoiled me in return. There is a certain level of respect, appreciation and gratitude in the hobby that gets lost in civie dating and relationships.


Ladies in the hobby appreciate everything more than civie ladies. As a result, I enjoy the chances I get to spoil ladies in the hobby. So, yes, hobbying does have an affect on other relationships. But, it would seem like the occasional spoiling of a lady makes other things tolerable for her.


Even in a civie relationships, little things can show appreciation. All it takes is a little observation, a little thought, an unexpected pleasant surprise. The honestly believe passion can stay fresh. It takes dedication because life events do occur.


I have many other thoughts, but will let others add to this wonderful discussion.

I very much like what you said, sure you have lots of other good things to share.

[TheAntichrist666]

I enjoy reading this thread. You know...I would like to thank all Providers out there for bringing happiness to my life. All civvie women I have dated, they have all treated me like shit. They were just so mean, disrespectful, and condescending to me. I was the nice guy, being polite, and romantic to them. They would take me for granted and treat me like shit in return. 3 years ago I got fed up with all of their bs and the way they were treating me. I started seeing Providers and have been with them ever since. Providers have helped me build my confidence back up and I spoil them back in return. Providers have treated me much better than any civvie women out there. Thanks for making me happy and treating me with some dignity. I do appreciate what Providers do for lonely guys like myself.

[Chloe Kensington]

Originally Posted by TheAntichrist666

I enjoy reading this thread. You know...I would like to thank all Providers out there for bringing happiness to my life. All civvie women I have dated, they have all treated me like shit. They were just so mean, disrespectful, and condescending to me. I was the nice guy, being polite, and romantic to them. They would take me for granted and treat me like shit in return. 3 years ago I got fed up with all of their bs and the way they were treating me. I started seeing Providers and have been with them ever since. Providers have helped me build my confidence back up and I spoil them back in return. Providers have treated me much better than any civvie women out there. Thanks for making me happy and treating me with some dignity. I do appreciate what Providers do for lonely guys like myself.

That's so nice of you to say! There are lots of lovely providers and you sound like a lovely man.

xxx