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Old 03-20-2018, 10:45 AM   #16
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I don't know, ranting and raving and tweeting about how the investigation should end now. Calling it a witch-hunt. Stating that it's being conducted by a bunch of "hardened" democrats, when actually most of the people involved are long-term republicans.
If he were innocent why would he not want them to proceed and wrap it up.
It's almost over....isn't it Donald?
i'd say that sums up just about everyone who have convinced themselves Trump must have colluded in order to defeat hildewhore.


what if it is a witch hunt? are you gonna admit you were wrong and get your Trumpy Bear?

by your "logic" above anyone who claims innocence is guilty. interesting take on it.

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i'd say that sums up just about everyone who have convinced themselves Trump must have colluded in order to defeat hildewhore.


what if it is a witch hunt? are you gonna admit you were wrong and get your Trumpy Bear?

by your "logic" above anyone who claims innocence is guilty. interesting take on it.

bahahhaaa
You mean like the Benghazi Witch Hunt?

What about the Niger Witch Hunt? ....oh wait, there isn't one. Wonder why that is?




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The four American soldiers who were slain in Niger were sent into harm’s way on Donald Trump’s orders, even though the military had made clear that there was not adequate support in the area.
The L.A. Times reports that “for months before the ambush” the military had requested the presence of drones, other surveillance aircraft, and additional military medical support to back up operations in the theater of operations.

Those requests were resisted by the U.S. ambassador to Niger, who was “reluctant to increase the American presence in the country.”

The military, acting on orders from Trump, who is the commander in chief of all armed forces, went ahead with the doomed mission.
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Old 03-20-2018, 01:52 PM   #18
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You mean like the Benghazi Witch Hunt?

What about the Niger Witch Hunt? ....oh wait, there isn't one. Wonder why that is?


Here you go, snitchfuck... already asked and answered. Maybe you can try to find another facile comparison.

Your homework is to write out on a chalkboard "Niger Is Not Trump's Benghazi" 500 more times.



This Is Not Trump’s Benghazi

The deaths of U.S. troops in Niger were a tragedy, but there’s no need for conspiracy theories.


By Laura Seay

Before the tragic deaths of four American and five Nigerien soldiers on Oct. 4, few Americans realized that U.S. troops were deployed to the West African country. While much of the media coverage since then has focused on how long it took President Trump to call the families of the four Americans who were killed, and what he said to them once he did, questions are also now being rightly asked about the incident itself. How could well-equipped American special forces have been ambushed and overwhelmed? Why did it take so long to recover the body of one of the fallen? What was the role of military contractors in this situation? And just what are American troops doing in Niger to begin with?

Those are reasonable and important questions, and the families of the nine soldiers deserve answers. But some normally responsible commentators are delving into speculation about the cause of this crisis that crosses the line from reasonable speculation to irresponsible conspiracy mongering.

Case in point: MSNBC host Rachel Maddow. On her Thursday night show, in her trademark “I’m just asking questions” style, Maddow suggested that the Trump administration’s recently implemented travel ban against Chadian citizens might have something to do with the deaths of these soldiers. On Sept. 24, Chad was added to the list of countries in the latest edition of the administration’s ban. This puzzled many observers, as Chad is a major partner of the U.S. in counterterrorism missions. (A CBS report this week suggested that the Chadian government’s failure to provide new passports for analysis was to blame.) Since then, Chad has withdrawn hundreds of troops from Niger, where they were working with local forces to fight Boko Haram, and there’s been some speculation that this was related to the ban. Maddow took this speculation a step further by suggesting that because the Chadian troops had been pulled out, American troops were left more vulnerable than they otherwise might have been.

Many on the left are comparing the Niger story to the 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that left U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans dead. Attempts on the right to pin responsibility for the tragedy on incompetence or malfeasance by the Obama administration came to naught, despite 33 congressional hearings on the events of that day. Maddow’s approach to this story—“just asking questions” that are neither based in evidence nor likely to contribute to an accurate understanding of what happened in Niger and why—drags liberals down the same path that conservatives traveled with Benghazi, one of irrational, fearmongering claims that only serve to prolong the suffering of the families of the fallen while doing nothing to explain the root causes of the event. In doing so, Maddow also preyed upon Americans’ lack of knowledge about Africa, a widespread problem that ranges from not understanding how large the continent is to major news organizations mislabeling maps for national broadcast.

Maddow’s speculation, which mirrors a conspiracy theory pushed by the Palmer Report, a fringe website, might be tempting to believe, but it makes several key errors. First, there is simply no evidence that the withdrawal of Chadian forces from Niger had anything to do with the ambush. Examining the basic geography of the crisis makes this clear. Chad’s involvement in Niger was limited to the fight against Boko Haram, a Nigeria-based extremist movement that terrorizes civilians in northwest Nigeria, southeast Niger, southern Chad, and northern Cameroon. The Chadians were deployed to the Diffa region, where they fought effectively against Boko Haram and restored a semblance of stability to communities the extremists had terrorized. Their withdrawal has upset communities in the Diffa region, who (rightly) believe that their own government’s forces are incapable of protecting them from a renewed Boko Haram threat.

As you can see from this map, Diffa is on the opposite side of Niger from Tongo Tongo, where the ambush occurred. Nigerian forces and their American advisers in this region of Niger were not dealing with Boko Haram but instead were working to protect communities from other extremist groups that are active in the region where Mali, Niger, and Burkina Faso meet. One of these groups, the Islamic State in the Greater Sahara, is suspected of perpetrating the Niger attack.

Chadian forces were not involved in counterterror efforts in this area. There are Chadians involved in the fight against ISGS and other extremist groups across the border in northern Mali, where they continue to serve, but they do not engage in Niger.

In her segment, Maddow incorrectly claimed that Chadian forces were protecting civilians from the ISIS-affiliated ISGS. This simply isn’t true; Chadian forces were never fighting ISGS in Niger. They were fighting a completely different enemy in a different part of the country.

Might the withdrawal of the Chadians have somehow emboldened ISGS to feel more confident in attacking American forces in Tongo Tongo? It’s unlikely due to the geographic factors noted above. There’s also no evidence that Niger withdrew troops from its west to fill the security vacuum left by the Chadians in the east. Even if that had happened, Nigerien military forces are so weak that their presence likely would have made little difference in the moment of crisis.

The sad truth is that what happened in Niger was almost certainly the result of human error coupled with bad luck. The attack’s perpetrators sensed an opportunity, American and Nigerien forces underestimated their vulnerability, and the attack had tragic consequences. What unfolded in those hours is unknown to most of us for now, but there will surely be investigations into what happened. The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday that the FBI has joined military investigators looking into the incident.

American forces have been in Niger since 2012. Currently, there are about 800. Their primary mission is to advise and assist Niger’s armed forces in their fight against terrorist groups that attack their citizens. This means that American soldiers are not technically at war with the terror groups; they are there to assist the Nigeriens with tasks like locating the enemy, developing strategies and tactics, and building relationships with local leaders, whose knowledge is essential for getting accurate information about terrorists’ activities in a very remote part of the world.

The Niger mission is part of the growth of the U.S. military presence in Africa that began under the Bush administration and greatly expanded under Obama. American forces are deployed to numerous countries undertaking a wide variety of missions, almost all of which fall under the “advise and assist” mode of operation. While many of these missions are secretive for obvious reasons, their existence is not.

Advise and assist missions are often more dangerous than they sound. As they have increased over the years, so have the risks to American and partner forces. The likelihood was high that a tragedy of this nature would happen somewhere in Africa, sooner or later.

This just shows you that the Dems can't play the games like the GOP. Right away we get these sober analysis warning us to be cautious in our assessments. More...

So why is Maddow pushing this narrative? It’s true that by framing it as a hypothesis she didn’t say events actually unfolded this way. But using her considerable platform to introduce a wild conspiracy theory into the public debate about a confusing and unfamiliar situation was irresponsible and unnecessary. Why didn’t Maddow’s producers call any of the number of academics who study terrorism and counterterror efforts in the Sahel? Every one of those scholars would have shot down this idea immediately, based on simple, readily available public information.

Niger is unfamiliar to most Americans, and there’s a need for a long-overdue debate about why American forces are there and in other places around the world in the borderless and seemingly endless “Global War on Terror.” Are the threats to the United States from groups like ISGS really significant enough to spend billions of dollars deploying troops to fight them? Should lives be risked and lost in service of murky goals that often seem tangential to U.S. interests? These are questions worth asking. But trying to score political points by politicizing a tragedy with factual errors and the confusion of correlation for causation won’t bring the answers we, and the families of the Niger fallen, so desperately need.
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Troops die, you post lies.

Benghazi 2.0, deal with it.


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Troops die, you post lies.

Benghazi 2.0, deal with it.


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I see you're melting down again. Slate prints lies?

Go sell some bumper stickers. That's all you're good for.

You can't hold a candle in any serious debate.
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Here you go, snitchfuck... already asked and answered. Maybe you can try to find another facile comparison.

Your homework is to write out on a chalkboard "Niger Is Not Trump's Benghazi" 500 more times.



This Is Not Trump’s Benghazi

The deaths of U.S. troops in Niger were a tragedy, but there’s no need for conspiracy theories.


By Laura Seay



Many on the left are comparing the Niger story to the 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that left U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans dead. Attempts on the right to pin responsibility for the tragedy on incompetence or malfeasance by the Obama administration came to naught, despite 33 congressional hearings on the events of that day. Maddow’s approach to this story—“just asking questions” that are neither based in evidence nor likely to contribute to an accurate understanding of what happened in Niger and why—drags liberals down the same path that conservatives traveled with Benghazi, one of irrational, fearmongering claims that only serve to prolong the suffering of the families of the fallen while doing nothing to explain the root causes of the event. In doing so, Maddow also preyed upon Americans’ lack of knowledge about Africa,[/B]
"the same path conservatives traveled down with Benghazi..." hmmmmmm

So you finally ppst a link showing how stupid the Benghazi witch hunt was.

That is your defense of Trump/Niger?

Both while tragic are just happenstance of War.

I can go along with that if all you Benghazi Frakes would admit you were just chasing Clinton down a rabbithole
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I see you're melting down again. Slate prints lies?

Go sell some bumper stickers. That's all you're good for.

You can't hold a candle in any serious debate.
Hey Bro. WTF continues to hand you youre ass. You are one dumb motherfucker

We all knew TrumPutin was an idiot but the cum drinkers like you who voted for him are the REAL idiots. Lmao!!!
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Mistake it's you and whathefuckdoiknow who get your heads handed to you on a daily basis you liar. Find that pee tape yet you perv? No? Translation: Fake News. Reality: you and whathefuckdoiknow are liars. Case closed.
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Mistake it's you and whathefuckdoiknow who get your heads handed to you on a daily basis you liar.
Lustyturd just posted a link denouncing the Benghazi investigations as witch hunts and you're saying i got my ass handed to me?
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I and many others have handed you your head consantly (we want oohing to do with your ass gay boy). Find that pee tape you're so desperate for yet?
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Mistake it's you and whathefuckdoiknow who get your heads handed to you on a daily basis you liar. Find that pee tape yet you perv? No? Translation: Fake News. Reality: you and whathefuckdoiknow are liars. Case closed.
Hey Mansperm you have Zero credibility. Are you one of the guys who watched Muslims celebrating during 911 as the Towers burned? Did you and TrumPutin watch that together? Or were you part of the team that was in Hawaii tracking down Obama's fake birth certificate?

Lol. Youre a pathetic Loser
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Find that pee tape you're so desperate for yet?
Putin got the Pee tape and he ain't giving it up....unless the Donald steps out of line.

So far he has been a good lil boy.


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Come up with some original material mistake. You don't impress anybody. Never claimed any of those things dimwit. Did Muslims celebrate 9/11? There were videos shown of that very thing. If I have no credibility, I still have more than you. Give it up boys, there is no pee tape. It certainly would have been released by now. Your fantasies of seeing Trump naked are not coming true.
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you know what? i like you, WTF, i really do. you are so certain in your convictions .... completely false that they are ... that i give you the Arthur award!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC_TFoGhqUU

you go Arthur! the Grail awaits you.


BAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAA

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you know what? i like you, WTF, i really do. you are so certain in your convictions .... completely false that they are ... that i give you the Arthur award!!!!


You like me, you really like me!

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