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Old 02-03-2015, 01:41 PM   #1
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Default OUR CLUELESS PRESIDENT.....RUSHES TO THE DEFENSE OF ISLAM

Everyone knows ISIS (the Islamic State of Iraq) is Islamic; everyone but Obama More than that though, he wants to make sure everyone knows that the ideology of ISIS isn’t Islamic, that it’s something else that he hasn’t figured out yet
“Whatever ideology they’re operating off of…it’s bankrupt.”
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Old 02-03-2015, 02:47 PM   #2
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Well Islam is a religion, and ISIS is a organisation but that is splitting hairs.
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For a change you're lying. POTUS did NOT defend Islam in this one-minute video sound bite.

Why is it so important for you to make up shit, spin shit and spew shit?

You're making things up again, Whir-LIE-turd!

FACT JACK!
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POTUS did NOT defend Islam in this one-minute video sound bite....
That's got to be a record. A whole one-minute without defending the ...errr.... Islamists.

Personally I hope Jordan carpet bombs the bastards ... dust off the napalm.

I agree that are not "Islamists" .... Nor are they "terrorists" ....

They are animals..

Wouldn't that be something. The Jordanians with more balls that the U.S.
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Make No mistake; his insistence that ISIS is not Islamic is Obama's defense of Islam!
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Make No mistake; his insistence that ISIS is not Islamic is Obama's defense of Islam!
The KKK, Aryan Brotherhood consider themselves Christians- should we label Christianity the same way we label KKK and Aryan Nation? Are there not Christian radical groups? Remember the IRA? ISIS is not islamic- in the same manner that Bloods and Crips don't represent All African-Americans or the same manner that Skinheads don't represent All Caucasian people.
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Make No mistake; his insistence that ISIS is not Islamic is Obama's defense of Islam!
So WW are you saying Islam is an evil religion? Keep in mind your Christian Bible is full of violence- you ever read the Old Testament. Do you know what the penalty for adultery or Blasphemy was- let me remind you- it was getting stoned to death.

WW can you justify these laws found in your own Holy Bible:The links and references are included:

Examples of the death penalty
The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities, among others:

Murder
Adultery
Bestiality
Rape
Sodomy
One man picked up sticks on the Sabbath, he was taken into custody because a punishment was not known. The LORD told Moses that the man in custody must be killed. This particular crime and punishment is isolated case law.(Numbers 15:32–36)
A betrothed woman who does not cry out while being raped
A woman who is found not to have been a virgin on the night of her wedding
Worshiping other gods[19][20]
Witchcraft (Exodus 22:18)
Taking the LORD's name in vain or cursing his name
Cursing a parent
Kidnapping

Whirlaway you do realize that Jesus was crucified mainly for Blasphemy by stating he was the Son of God. Do you realize these brutal killings have been going on for thousands of years- do not make it seem like Christianity has always been this so peaceful religion and only Islam radicals have killed people.

Ancient Pagans

As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.
Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.
Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyer." [DA468]
Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. [DA468]
Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]
According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all Christian teachings..."
In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.
In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities. [DA466]
The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.

20th Century Church Atrocities

Catholic extermination camps
Surpisingly few know that Nazi extermination camps in World War II were by no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years 1942-1943 also in Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by Catholic Ustasha under their dictator Ante Paveli, a practising Catholic and regular visitor to the then pope. There were even concentration camps exclusively for children!

In these camps - the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a Franciscan friar - orthodox-Christian serbians (and a substantial number of Jews) were murdered. Like the Nazis the Catholic Ustasha burned their victims in kilns, alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first). But most of the victims were simply stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi "Sicherheitsdient der SS", watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV]
Catholic terror in Vietnam
In 1954 Vietnamese freedom fighters - the Viet Minh - had finally defeated the French colonial government in North Vietnam, which by then had been supported by U.S. funds amounting to more than $2 billion. Although the victorious assured religious freedom to all (most non-buddhist Vietnamese were Catholics), due to huge anticommunist propaganda campaigns many Catholics fled to the South. With the help of Catholic lobbies in Washington and Cardinal Spellman, the Vatican's spokesman in U.S. politics, who later on would call the U.S. forces in Vietnam "Soldiers of Christ", a scheme was concocted to prevent democratic elections which could have brought the communist Viet Minh to power in the South as well, and the fanatic Catholic Ngo Dinh Diem was made president of South Vietnam. [MW16ff]

Diem saw to it that U.S. aid, food, technical and general assistance was given to Catholics alone, Buddhist individuals and villages were ignored or had to pay for the food aids which were given to Catholics for free. The only religious denomination to be supported was Roman Catholicism.

The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read:
"Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp."
Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and monks were imprisoned in "detention camps." Out of protest dozens of buddhist teachers - male and female - and monks poured gasoline over themselves and burned themselves. (Note that Buddhists burned themselves: in comparison Christians tend to burn others). Meanwhile some of the prison camps, which in the meantime were filled with Protestant and even Catholic protesters as well, had turned into no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps. [MW76-89].

To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of American GI's lost their life....


WW do you remember the Bosnian wars and ethnic cleansing of muslims by Christians???
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Old 02-03-2015, 06:03 PM   #8
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Again, Obama, Valerie and the other top Dems have decided to kowtow to the Muslims in an attempt to win their vote. It's that simple. You will not hear any political rhetoric tying terrorist activities to Islam no matter how obvious. It's a long term political strategy. If it brings down the country, so be it.
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Old 02-03-2015, 06:26 PM   #9
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So WW are you saying Islam is an evil religion? Keep in mind your Christian Bible is full of violence- you ever read the Old Testament. Do you know what the penalty for adultery or Blasphemy was- let me remind you- it was getting stoned to death.

WW can you justify these laws found in your own Holy Bible:The links and references are included:

Examples of the death penalty
The Bible prescribes the death penalty for the following activities, among others:

Murder
Adultery
Bestiality
Rape
Sodomy
One man picked up sticks on the Sabbath, he was taken into custody because a punishment was not known. The LORD told Moses that the man in custody must be killed. This particular crime and punishment is isolated case law.(Numbers 15:32–36)
A betrothed woman who does not cry out while being raped
A woman who is found not to have been a virgin on the night of her wedding
Worshiping other gods[19][20]
Witchcraft (Exodus 22:18)
Taking the LORD's name in vain or cursing his name
Cursing a parent
Kidnapping

Whirlaway you do realize that Jesus was crucified mainly for Blasphemy by stating he was the Son of God. Do you realize these brutal killings have been going on for thousands of years- do not make it seem like Christianity has always been this so peaceful religion and only Islam radicals have killed people.

Ancient Pagans

As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.
Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.
Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyer." [DA468]
Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. [DA468]
Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]
According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all Christian teachings..."
In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.
In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities. [DA466]
The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.

20th Century Church Atrocities

Catholic extermination camps
Surpisingly few know that Nazi extermination camps in World War II were by no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years 1942-1943 also in Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by Catholic Ustasha under their dictator Ante Paveli, a practising Catholic and regular visitor to the then pope. There were even concentration camps exclusively for children!

In these camps - the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a Franciscan friar - orthodox-Christian serbians (and a substantial number of Jews) were murdered. Like the Nazis the Catholic Ustasha burned their victims in kilns, alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first). But most of the victims were simply stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi "Sicherheitsdient der SS", watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV]
Catholic terror in Vietnam
In 1954 Vietnamese freedom fighters - the Viet Minh - had finally defeated the French colonial government in North Vietnam, which by then had been supported by U.S. funds amounting to more than $2 billion. Although the victorious assured religious freedom to all (most non-buddhist Vietnamese were Catholics), due to huge anticommunist propaganda campaigns many Catholics fled to the South. With the help of Catholic lobbies in Washington and Cardinal Spellman, the Vatican's spokesman in U.S. politics, who later on would call the U.S. forces in Vietnam "Soldiers of Christ", a scheme was concocted to prevent democratic elections which could have brought the communist Viet Minh to power in the South as well, and the fanatic Catholic Ngo Dinh Diem was made president of South Vietnam. [MW16ff]

Diem saw to it that U.S. aid, food, technical and general assistance was given to Catholics alone, Buddhist individuals and villages were ignored or had to pay for the food aids which were given to Catholics for free. The only religious denomination to be supported was Roman Catholicism.

The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read:
"Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp."
Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and monks were imprisoned in "detention camps." Out of protest dozens of buddhist teachers - male and female - and monks poured gasoline over themselves and burned themselves. (Note that Buddhists burned themselves: in comparison Christians tend to burn others). Meanwhile some of the prison camps, which in the meantime were filled with Protestant and even Catholic protesters as well, had turned into no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps. [MW76-89].

To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of American GI's lost their life....


WW do you remember the Bosnian wars and ethnic cleansing of muslims by Christians???
You'd do well to read some history books on the Balkans, WE. It was the Ottomans who introduced religious animus into that region centuries ago, WE. RE: Jesus, WE, if you will recall there was a placard attached to his cross.

John 19:20 states that this sign attached to the cross was written in three languages—Hebrew, Latin, and Greek. The Hebrew text was: ישוע הנצרי מלך היהודים. The Latin text was Iēsus Nazarēnus, Rēx Iūdaeōrum, and the Greek text read Ἰησοῦς ὁ Ναζωραῖος ὁ Bασιλεὺς τῶν. When translated into English each reads as "Jesus the Nazarene, King of the Jews." This placard, taken in conjunction with a mocking "crown" made of thorns, quite clearly shows that the motive for Jesus' execution was political in nature, WE.
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ISIS is killing and subjegating people in the name of Islam. Just like the Prophet Muhammad did.

They seem pretty darned "Islamic" to me. Probably more so than all of those "moderate" Muslims who refuse to see the truth about their arcane Religion.
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Well all that "your religion is more barbaric than mine" bullshit aside, the fact is that POTUS didn't "rush to the defense of Islam," like Whir-LIE-turd claims he did.

Again, Whir-LIE-turd is LYING!

When are we going to see that MLK quote, Whir-LIE-turd? Hmmmm?
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ISIS is killing and subjegating people in the name of Islam. Just like the Prophet Muhammad did.

They seem pretty darned "Islamic" to me. Probably more so than all of those "moderate" Muslims who refuse to see the truth about their arcane Religion.
Quote me a legit reference where Muhammad forced people into Islam. It's quite sad how little people know about Islam. There's a verse in the Quran that reads the following: “There is no compulsion in religion.” [Baqarah 2:256]- That verse clearly translates : Do not force people into the faith".

Christian scriptures could be mined for some rather violent commands from God. There is the commandment in I Samuel 15:3 where God commands King Saul to slay the Amelekites: “Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.” For that matter, the words of Jesus could be taken out of context. He says, “I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.”


So couldn't an outsider look at that Biblical verse and conclude that Jewish and Christian God commands his followers to kill women, children and infants?
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Everyone knows ISIS (the Islamic State of Iraq) is Islamic; everyone but Obama More than that though, he wants to make sure everyone knows that the ideology of ISIS isn’t Islamic, that it’s something else that he hasn’t figured out yet
“Whatever ideology they’re operating off of…it’s bankrupt.”
Our fearless leader is in firm control of things..........



The world is better off when this guy is golfing..........

Read more: http://therightscoop.com/obama-defen...#ixzz3QiTrCrpO

You disagree with the assertion that ISIS' ideology, whatever psychotic place it comes from, is wrong and bankrupt?

It just astonishes me that you are willing to try to align the President of the United States with ISIS.....because of your political ideology. You are one sick puppy.
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Quote me a legit reference where Muhammad forced people into Islam. It's quite sad how little people know about Islam. There's a verse in the Quran that reads the following: “There is no compulsion in religion.” [Baqarah 2:256]- That verse clearly translates : Do not force people into the faith".

Christian scriptures could be mined for some rather violent commands from God. There is the commandment in I Samuel 15:3 where God commands King Saul to slay the Amelekites: “Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.” For that matter, the words of Jesus could be taken out of context. He says, “I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.”


So couldn't an outsider look at that Biblical verse and conclude that Jewish and Christian God commands his followers to kill women, children and infants?
At this point, it makes no difference what you or I think the true teachings of the Prophet Muhammad are, it's what all of the Muslim Terrorist who are killing in the name of the Prophet think.

The historical Muhammad was a genocidal, murdering pedophile. He conquered in the name of Allah. He forced those who he conquered to either accept Islam, or suffer the consequences.

This is historical fact. Whether you accept it or not is really irrelevant, because that is what his modern day followers under the ISIS banner believe.

And in case you haven't noticed, they are the ones cutting heads off and burning people alive in the year 2015. In the name of the same Allah.
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The KKK, Aryan Brotherhood consider themselves Christians- should we label Christianity the same way we label KKK and Aryan Nation? Are there not Christian radical groups? Remember the IRA? ISIS is not islamic- in the same manner that Bloods and Crips don't represent All African-Americans or the same manner that Skinheads don't represent All Caucasian people.
Are you another defender of Islam? You sound like it with your attempted equivalency.
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