Waco Kid's college football 2019 week 15

[The_Waco_Kid]

Each week upcoming games can be discussed and predictions made, name-calling after victories and general all-around college football discussion! Each week will be closed out by the next Monday and a new thread opened for the current college football schedule for each week.

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https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/rankings/



Poll Date : December 01, 2019
AP Top 25

Team
PtsTrendW/LLastNext
1.LSU
1528-12-0 LSU 50 - @TAMU 7


vs UGA(4)
Sat, Dec 7, 3:00 PM CST

2.Ohio State
1498-12-0 OSU 56 - MICH 27


@ WIS(10)
Sat, Dec 7, 7:00 PM CST

3.Clemson
1437-12-0 CLEM 38 - SC 3


vs UVA(22)
Sat, Dec 7, 6:30 PM CST

4.Georgia
1356-11-1 UGA 52 - GT 7


@ LSU(1)
Sat, Dec 7, 3:00 PM CST

5.Utah
1275-11-1 UTAH 45 - @COLO 15


@ ORE(13)
Fri, Dec 6, 7:00 PM CST

6.Oklahoma
1257-11-1 OU 34 - OKST 16


vs BAY(8)
Sat, Dec 7, 11:00 AM CST

7.Florida
1135-10-2 FLA 40 - @FSU 17



8.Baylor
1074-11-1 BAY 61 - KU 6


@ OU(6)
Sat, Dec 7, 11:00 AM CST

9.Alabama
995-10-2 ALA 45 - AUB 48



10.Wisconsin
971-10-2 WIS 38 - MINN 17


vs OSU(2)
Sat, Dec 7, 7:00 PM CST

11.Auburn
957-9-3 AUB 48 - @ALA 45



12.Penn State
890-10-2 PSU 27 - @RUTG 6



13.Oregon
799-10-2 ORE 24 - @ORST 10


vs UTAH(5)
Fri, Dec 6, 7:00 PM CST

14.Notre Dame
734-10-2 ND 45 - STAN 24



15.Minnesota
683-10-2 MINN 17 - @WIS 38



16.Memphis
615-11-1 MEM 34 - @CIN 24


vs CIN(21)
Sat, Dec 7, 2:30 PM CST

17.Michigan
603-9-3 MICH 27 - @OSU 56



18.Iowa
537-9-3 IOWA 27 - NEB 24



19.Boise State
463-11-1 BSU 31 - CSU 24


vs HAW
Sat, Dec 7, 3:00 PM CST

20.Appalachian State
288-11-1 APP 48 - TROY 13


vs ULL
Sat, Dec 7, 11:00 AM CST

21.Cincinnati
237-10-2 CIN 24 - MEM 34


@ MEM(16)
Sat, Dec 7, 2:30 PM CST

22.Virginia
231-9-3 UVA 39 - @VT 30


@ CLEM(3)
Sat, Dec 7, 6:30 PM CST

23.Navy
216-9-2 NAVY 56 - HOU 41


vs ARMY
Sat, Dec 14, 2:00 PM CST

24.USC
157-8-4 USC 52 - @UCLA 35



25.Air Force
65-10-2 AFA 20 - @WYO 6


Others with votes :

SMU (50)
Oklahoma State (36)
Kansas State (36)
UCF (6)
Virginia Tech (6)
Iowa State (5)
Arizona State (4)
California (3)
Washington (2)

[The_Waco_Kid]

12/6, 7:00 PM CST

• 
  (5) Utah
  Utes
  
  11-1
• 
  (13) Oregon
  Ducks
  
  10-2

Odds: UTAH-6
O/U46

TV: ABC

WINNER: Utes
ducks have stumbled, Utes have rumbled. Utes take the PAC 12
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12/7, 11:00 AM CST

• 
  (7) Baylor
  Bears
  
  11-1
• 
  (6) Oklahoma
  Sooners
  
  11-1

Odds: OU-9
O/U64.5

TV: ABC

WINNER: Bears
rolling the dice Bears can seal the deal and not choke twice in a row
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12/7, 11:00 AM CST

• 
  Louisiana
  Ragin' Cajuns
  
  10-2
• 
  (21) Appalachian State
  Mountaineers
  
  11-1

Odds: APP-6
O/U56

TV: ESPN

WINNER: Mountaineers
going all in with Appalachian State to take the cake.
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12/7, 2:30 PM CST

• 
  (20) Cincinnati
  Bearcats
  
  10-2
• 
  (17) Memphis
  Tigers
  
  11-1

Odds: MEM-9.5
O/U57.5

TV: ABC

WINNER: Memphis
it's hard to beat a good team twice in a row but i liked the way the Tigers pulled away last time
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12/7, 3:00 PM CST

• 
  (4) Georgia
  Bulldogs
  
  11-1
• 
  (2) LSU
  Tigers
  
  12-0

Odds: LSU-7
O/U55

TV: CBS

WINNER: Coach Growl and Mikey
going all in with destiny and Coach Growl. is this the making of a title run? we shall see.
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12/7, 3:00 PM CST

• 
  Hawaii
  Rainbow Warriors
  
  9-4
• 
  (19) Boise State
  Broncos
  
  11-1

Odds: BSU-13.5
O/U64.5

TV: ESPN

WINNER: Boise Smurfs
Hawaii has turned their program around but the Smurfs are the better team.
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12/7, 6:30 PM CST

• 
  (23) Virginia
  Cavaliers
  
  9-3
• 
  (3) Clemson
  Tigers
  
  12-0

Odds: CLEM-28.5
O/U57

TV: ABC

WINNER: Dabo Tigers
Clemson begins it's quest to repeat here. can they do it?
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12/7, 7:00 PM CST

• 
  (1) Ohio State
  Buckeyes
  
  12-0
• 
  (8) Wisconsin
  Badgers
  
  10-2

Odds: OSU-15
O/U56.5

TV: Fox

WINNER: Brutus Buckeye
Whiskey killed da Gophers last week butt this is Brutus Buckeye.
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[Lucas McCain]

I don't think UGA has enough fire power to go with LSU's revamped offense, so, I'll go with LSU.

Wisconsin is not going to beat OSU with just a stud running back, so I will go with OSU (I am ssuming there are no more Watts on Wisconsin playing DE.)

Clemson, that's not even worth discussing. The ACC has become a joke now.

Boise State - I'll never bet against them and their aweseome/obnoxious blue field ever again.

Big 12 - I don't give a shit about either team. Neither one of them should be in the playoffs and I don't know why the talking media heads even discuss it.

Because of Tony Pollard for the Cowboys, I take Memphis. Because of Travis Kelce for the Chiefs, I take Cincy. Does my logic remotely make any fucking sense to anyone about this game? Of course not because it does not even make any sense to me. I just want to watch a good game

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

I don't think UGA has enough fire power to go with LSU's revamped offense, so, I'll go with LSU.

Wisconsin is not going to beat OSU with just a stud running back, so I will go with OSU (I am ssuming there are no more Watts on Wisconsin playing DE.)

Clemson, that's not even worth discussing. The ACC has become a joke now.

Boise State - I'll never bet against them and their aweseome/obnoxious blue field ever again.

Big 12 - I don't give a shit about either team. Neither one of them should be in the playoffs and I don't know why the talking media heads even discuss it.

Because of Tony Pollard for the Cowboys, I take Memphis. Because of Travis Kelce for the Chiefs, I take Cincy. Does my logic remotely make any fucking sense to anyone about this game? Of course not because it does not even make any sense to me. I just want to watch a good game

LSU and Ohio State are the two top teams as i see it now. Clemson and the ACC, well ignore Clemson at your own risk. they are the defending champ. the ACC's overall strength doesn't mean Clemson can't win the title again. i think you have to go all the way back to Nebraska in the poll era for a repeat champ. no one as done it yet in either the BCS or playoff format.


many people still remember that Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma when the Smurfs won on some great plays, that hook and ladder, the Statue of Liberty play. being a Longhorns fan i enjoyed that immensely. Stoops didn't make any excuses post game, i'll give him that. when asked about Boise's "trick" plays, Stoops said "we knew about them, they executed them".


i'm picking Baylor simply as a bet against ZerOU. i may regret that. lol. Baylor had ZerOU on the ropes then choked. if they play like the first half for the whole game they can beat ZerOU.

if i was betting i'd take ZerOU. they may end up mauling the Bears.


the Memphis vs. Cincy game might be the most intriguing game of the day. they just played last week. Memphis pulled away as i predicted. can they do it again?


if as expected the three undefeated teams win out, LSU, Ohio State and Clemson, probably Utah gets in assuming they beat Oregon. that leaves a one loss team out, either Baylor or ZerOU. there will be an 8 team format eventually, probably within the next 5 years or so. it looks like the format would be the conference champ of the power 5 and 3 at-large. the best independent probably ND and/or a group of 5 team. also possibly a one loss Power 5 team.


if i had to pick the title game now, i'd pick LSU vs. Ohio State. very old school .. the Big 10 vs. the SEC.


one thing is clear, if there had been a playoff format in the past, probably half the "voted" winners would have lost. that would shake up quite a few school's trophy cases!

[The_Waco_Kid]

12/6, 7:00 PM CST

• 
  (5) Utah
  Utes
  
  11-1
• 
  (13) Oregon
  Ducks
  
  10-2

Odds: UTAH-6
O/U46

TV: ABC

WINNER: Utes
ducks have stumbled, Utes have rumbled. Utes take the PAC 12

Final

• 
  (5) Utah
  Utes
  
  15
• 
  (13) Oregon
  Ducks
  
  37

i thought the Utes were ready. guess not. by winning the Ducks eliminate the PAC 12 from the Playoffs.
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12/7, 11:00 AM CST

• 
  (7) Baylor
  Bears
  
  11-1
• 
  (6) Oklahoma
  Sooners
  
  11-1

Odds: OU-9
O/U64.5

TV: ABC

WINNER: Bears
rolling the dice Bears can seal the deal and not choke twice in a row

Final OT

• 
  (7) Baylor
  Bears
  
  23
• 
  (6) Oklahoma
  Sooners
  
  30

Bears played well enough with their backup QB's to win. ZerOU gets in the Big Dance
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12/7, 11:00 AM CST

• 
  Louisiana
  Ragin' Cajuns
  
  10-2
• 
  (21) Appalachian State
  Mountaineers
  
  11-1

Odds: APP-6
O/U56

TV: ESPN

WINNER: Mountaineers
going all in with Appalachian State to take the cake.

Final

• 
  Louisiana
  Ragin' Cajuns
  
  38
• 
  (21) Appalachian State
  Mountaineers
  
  45

lots of offense. Mountaineers take it. who will they play on New Year's?
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12/7, 2:30 PM CST

• 
  (20) Cincinnati
  Bearcats
  
  10-2
• 
  (17) Memphis
  Tigers
  
  11-1

Odds: MEM-9.5
O/U57.5

TV: ABC

WINNER: Memphis
it's hard to beat a good team twice in a row but i liked the way the Tigers pulled away last time

Final

• 
  (20) Cincinnati
  Bearcats
  
  24
• 
  (17) Memphis
  Tigers
  
  29

Memphis beats Cindy twice in row, loses their coach to FSU. is that a Win-Lose??
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12/7, 3:00 PM CST

• 
  (4) Georgia
  Bulldogs
  
  11-1
• 
  (2) LSU
  Tigers
  
  12-0

Odds: LSU-7
O/U55

TV: CBS

WINNER: Coach Growl and Mikey
going all in with destiny and Coach Growl. is this the making of a title run? we shall see.

Final

• 
  (4) Georgia
  Bulldogs
  
  10
• 
  (2) LSU
  Tigers
  
  37

LSU takes out UGA. the most impressive win of the day. LSU made it look easy.
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12/7, 3:00 PM CST

• 
  Hawaii
  Rainbow Warriors
  
  9-4
• 
  (19) Boise State
  Broncos
  
  11-1

Odds: BSU-13.5
O/U64.5

TV: ESPN

WINNER: Boise Smurfs
Hawaii has turned their program around but the Smurfs are the better team.

Final

• 
  Hawaii
  Rainbow Warriors
  
  10
• 
  (19) Boise State
  Broncos
  
  31

Smurfs roll over Hawaii. Smurfies will get a good bowl vs. a Power 5 team.
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12/7, 6:30 PM CST

• 
  (23) Virginia
  Cavaliers
  
  9-3
• 
  (3) Clemson
  Tigers
  
  12-0

Odds: CLEM-28.5
O/U57

TV: ABC

WINNER: Dabo Tigers
Clemson begins it's quest to repeat here. can they do it?

Final

• 
  (23) Virginia
  Cavaliers
  
  17
• 
  (3) Clemson
  Tigers
  
  62

a beat down from the start. Tigers are primed for a repeat run.
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12/7, 7:00 PM CST

• 
  (1) Ohio State
  Buckeyes
  
  12-0
• 
  (8) Wisconsin
  Badgers
  
  10-2

Odds: OSU-15
O/U56.5

TV: Fox

WINNER: Brutus Buckeye
Whiskey killed da Gophers last week butt this is Brutus Buckeye.

Final

• 
  (1) Ohio State
  Buckeyes
  
  34
• 
  (8) Wisconsin
  Badgers
  
  21

Whiskey smacks Brutus in the face. Brutus smacks them back. is Brutus tough enough??
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[winn dixie]

This year there was little doubt who would be the 4 in the playoffs! Just the ranking of the top 2 seeds lsu and osu. Its a very big deal this year, not just for the prestige!
Neither lsu or osu really wanted to play Clemson in the opening round! The reaction of the players during the selection show earlier showed a sigh of relief in lsu!
Both lsu and osu had the resume to be number 1.
In the end it should be lsu and osu in the championship game! But nobody really wanted to draw Clemson! For good reason....

[bambino]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

This year there was little doubt who would be the 4 in the playoffs! Just the ranking of the top 2 seeds lsu and osu. Its a very big deal this year, not just for the prestige!
Neither lsu or osu really wanted to play Clemson in the opening round! The reaction of the players during the selection show earlier showed a sigh of relief in lsu!
Both lsu and osu had the resume to be number 1.
In the end it should be lsu and osu in the championship game! But nobody really wanted to draw Clemson! For good reason....

I agree. Clemson didn’t look great early in the season. But they have speed everywhere and their QB has won it already. I like them to win it this year too.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

This year there was little doubt who would be the 4 in the playoffs! Just the ranking of the top 2 seeds lsu and osu. Its a very big deal this year, not just for the prestige!
Neither lsu or osu really wanted to play Clemson in the opening round! The reaction of the players during the selection show earlier showed a sigh of relief in lsu!
Both lsu and osu had the resume to be number 1.
In the end it should be lsu and osu in the championship game! But nobody really wanted to draw Clemson! For good reason....

i'd say LSU as the number 1 seed got the better match up for them. ZerOU has improved its defense but they are still outside the top 40 in points allowed. LSU has the better defense by far, capable of shutting down ZerOU.


Ohio State, given they drew Clemson might benefit from getting smacked in the mouth by Whiskey because they responded and took Whiskey out of the game in the 2nd half. that might be the difference maker in a close fight with Clemson.


if i had to call it today ... and i am ..


LSU wins easy over ZerOU. Ohio State and Clemson go down to the wire in a dogfight. edge to Brutus Buckeye.


i'll wait to see how those games play out for making a pick on a possible LSU vs. Ohio State match up.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by bambino

I agree. Clemson didn’t look great early in the season. But they have speed everywhere and their QB has won it already. I like them to win it this year too.

yep. Clemson wasn't really impressive early, while still winning most of their games easily but then there is the UNC game where the Mackster nearly beat them. Clemson has upped their game as the season went along. i think Lawrence fell victim to not quite the sophomore slump but he tried too hard for big plays early and was turning the ball over too much. you can do that against Syracuse and still win. try that against LSU or Ohio State and you likely lose. i think Dabo settled Lawrence down by running the ball more and giving him quicker, shorter reads on passes.


i just gave Ohio State the edge by the slightest of margins over Clemson because they responded when Whiskey punched them in the mouth. had them on their heels down 21-7 to open the 2nd half then suddenly it's 21-17 and Ohio State pulled away and didn't let Whiskey get back in it. while i may change my mind before i make my Bowl picks, i'm giving Brutus Buckeye the edge over Clemson because of the Whiskey game and how they responded. it might have been better for Clemson if Virginia had more fight in them but as a 3 loss team they were clearly the lessor of the other teams, Baylor who nearly beat ZerOU with their backs QB's, Whiskey who mauled Minnesota to get to the title game and looked like they were gonna do it again .. for 30 minutes lol and UGA. LSU smacked UGA which tells you how good they really are. while Clemson easily destroyed Virginia as expected a stronger opponent as a test might have served them better.


i expect LSU to win easy. Clemson vs. Ohio State might be a classic and set up the winner to go toe to toe with LSU.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by bambino

I agree. Clemson didn’t look great early in the season. But they have speed everywhere and their QB has won it already. I like them to win it this year too.

Wouldnt surprise me at all.

Dabo already has 'em feeling disrespected.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Wouldnt surprise me at all.

Dabo already has 'em feeling disrespected.

LSU clearly played the toughest schedule. They deserve to be #1. Clemson and Ohio State plated against weaker completion. Especially Clemson. But Clemson has been to the dance and won. This will be the first appearance by OSU with their current coach and QB. Talent wise, I give Clemson the edge over OSU. Same with coaching. Wisconsin isnt all that good. Probably lose in the Rose bowl.