Some musings about SA

[Zeman]

Thought I would share my thoughts and experiences about a TOS that might be helpful in case anyone was considering signing up.


First, as most of you know it is expensive for what you get. While it has a mobile app and thus you are not locked to a PC to access it, there are some things that I have noticed that give me pause


Now, for anyone who has had a good experience this is not to contradict or dismiss. I'm just sharing my experiences.


If you are looking for a reasonable steady hookup or FWB type arrangement, good luck. What I have found out is the majority of the females on that site will try to con you into going to some type of only fans or want to sell you pics and vids.


The next group who might appear to be reasonably sane have an extreme case of GPS. These are the ones who expect you to pay off their student loads, kick in for child support, pay their rent, buy them a plane ticket to somewhere.


Finally there is the group I call "SA needy" And boy are they ever needy. I probably could write a book on the hundreds of gut wrenching, heart wrenching, tragic sob stories I've been given. And I noticed all of them.........literally all of them need $60. Not $50 or $75 but $60.
One lass had her location in NW PA but found out during convo on the messaging part of SA that she was really in MI and needed..........$60 for tires for her ride so she could get back to PA. Naturally she offered to "make it up to me" during a visit. I declined.
Most of the financial "needs" revolve around rent money, gas money, utility money, water bill past due, parking tickets. One wanted a sum to get her DL back then she said she'd come see me at my location. The cost? You guessed it $60.I think you all can read between the lines here and figure out the real reason.


So, to summarize, once again for anyone who has had a good experience, I'm happy for you. To anyone whose strategy is hey, I can sign up on this site and have a bevy of women to choose from and have a NSA wham bam thank you maam tryst, I would advise to look elsewhere.

[chizzy]

Alot of scammers on there. It takes alot of work to weed them out

[tolstoy]

There is a "certain" (too large) number of Scammer girls on SA. "Pics only" girls. "Check and send me something from my wish-list to prove you are legit...." girls, PayPal "deposit" girls, ZOOM "Let's get to know each other while you send me money...." girls. The good news is that all these Scammers are easy to identify Quickly. Often their bullshit is right there in their profiles. Usually it just takes one or two PM's to determine if they are Fraudulent or not....

There are a positive, very Good number of straight-forward, orthodox ho's on SA, of the "experienced" variety and also totally "with-it" newbies who know what the deal is. All these "legit" SA girls just want to make money as Quickly and as Easily as possible. Scores of SA girls have the same mentality as all the "providers" who have been around for years. They want Safe, Reliable Clients who are not a PITA. Reasonable interests and reasonable expectations...

This is the "test" for all SA girls: try to set up a session Within...That....Week of first contact by PM. The Pro Ho's and "orthodox" hobby-oriented girls (experienced or newbie) WILL want to meet (more or less) quickly after first PM contact. From there it's all about setting up Specific Date, Specific Time, General Location and Specific Rate. The Pro Ho's and "new to the game" girls WILL ascertain this intel and set-up a session if they "know what they want" and "know what they are doing." Plenty of "orthodox" Pro Ho's on SA, in the middle of WAY too many Scammers and Frauds...

Simply try to ascertain Date/Time/Location/Rate within the first few PM's. The Pro Ho's WILL give up this intel and try to make money Quickly and Safely....

Too many SA girls request/require a Face pic of SA guys who inquire with them, and particularly all the "new to the game" girls. Guys can decide if they want to do that or not. I refuse to send a Face pic to any SA girls and it "cuts in half" all my action there. I still hook-up from SA as much as I want....

There are some Damn Good Looking Girls on SA who Throw...Down if you "work" them well in the early PM process. Most SA girls just want to make money Quickly and Safely. Reasonable expectations. "Keep It Simple" with the whole unique "process" on SA and a guy can hook-up from there as much as he wants....

Tolstoy: Still All About "Mentorship" & "Companionship" With SA Girls....

[yinzerpgh]

I agree - first off, there is a mobile phone app, but it's only for droid OS, not apple; Apple doesn't like to associate with nefarious goings on lol
We all know what $60 will buy, and if you don't, then you haven't been in the hoodrat scene for very long.
I've had some good success, but I've also been CnD'd every time I've signed up; 3 to be exact.
And yes, there are scammers everywhere. All platforms. If someone can sit on their couch and make "$60" and not move, why not?
All that said, there are much better looking options on SA than any other 'free' platforms.


side note; you can say SA, and not TOS - that goes way back, and everytime I see it, I think of Indy's!

[tolstoy]

Originally Posted by yinzerpgh

I agree - first off, there is a mobile phone app, but it's only for droid OS, not apple; Apple doesn't like to associate with nefarious goings on lol
We all know what $60 will buy, and if you don't, then you haven't been in the hoodrat scene for very long.
I've had some good success, but I've also been CnD'd every time I've signed up; 3 to be exact.
And yes, there are scammers everywhere. All platforms. If someone can sit on their couch and make "$60" and not move, why not?
All that said, there are much better looking options on SA than any other 'free' platforms.


side note; you can say SA, and not TOS - that goes way back, and everytime I see it, I think of Indy's!

The SA monthly membership is $90 now, $80 a month if you pay for three (3) months at a time. SA has slowly/steadily been increasing their monthly rates for years. And they eliminated the 6 month cheaper "package" deal....

I hope they continue to Increase the monthly membership rates. When SA started getting "press" on Indys and then Eccie then the girls PM-responses got all FUBAR. "Too many gophers trying to get in one hole" of all the hot girls there, and particularly all the newbie girls. Many SA girls have told me "I have 50 PM's in my inbox which I have not read...." Yes, there ARE too many male players on SA, and a lot of them waste-these-girls-time according to SA girl reports....

I too have experienced a few COPS TV show "street"-type incidents with SA girls which I never experienced with ASPD and Indys girls. SA has no public "review" system or Guys Room so girls can operate With Impunity there. When I compare all the negative experiences I have had from SA and think about the girl I saw who looked like Avril Lavigne and charged $150 an hour (she could have charged $300) I like to think about the Positives and not the Negatives...

SA is an odd mix of "street" Listcrawler scene and actual "kept women" who want to see just one (1) guy to pay all their bills. There are CMU physics majors who look like Taylor Swift (I saw her, she has been on SA for years) and there are the most menacing "street" ho's this side of the COPS TV show. There are actual local college "co-eds" and Straight...Criminals who operate on SA. And No...Mods and No...Customs and No "Mores" like the "organized" underground hobby-societies of ASPD and Indys and Eccie. SA is the Wild...West and "new frontier" of hybrid CL "street" scenes and Total Hotties who want and do land one (1) SD who takes care of all their bills....

"Be careful out there...." Hill Street Blues, Polish Hill Edition...

[signa]

as everyone said its a mixed bag, pros, wantabies, and seekers. Sometimes you find a true newbie but its requires a bit of inquiry

tolstoy is spot on they either meet eventually usually in a week, or they don't. Usually most want to string along for simps that pay for pics and not have to do really anything. Usually one or two blurry that wouldn't be even noticeable and of such low quality on where you would normally see naked pictures for free.

[tolstoy]

Originally Posted by signa

as everyone said its a mixed bag, pros, wantabies, and seekers. Sometimes you find a true newbie but its requires a bit of inquiry

tolstoy is spot on they either meet eventually usually in a week, or they don't. Usually most want to string along for simps that pay for pics and not have to do really anything. Usually one or two blurry that wouldn't be even noticeable and of such low quality on where you would normally see naked pictures for free.

If I don't get their "availability" intel within two or three PM's then I move on. They often return PM within a week with "When can we meet, Daddy?" At the end of our First exchange they KNOW what I'm all about and what sort of "process" I want from them....

Plenty of girls on SA want to make money as Quickly and Safely as we all want to Get....Laid. I have experienced more "Free to meet today, Daddy?" deals then I ever did on ASPD and Indys...

Lead These Girls To Water, And Then Have Them Drink. Avoid all that "getting to know each other" bullshit. Some SA girls (legit or not) want to ZOOM-call with guys before agreeing to meet. Most of the "newbie" girls require some sort of "visual representation" of the guy before they agree to bang him for money. One SA girl told me directly "I can do average looking guys. Really ugly looking guys I can't do..." So I guess that means I'm average looking. (I did a "meet & greet" with her when I was open-minded to those.) The whole "Can I see a pic, Daddy?" theme of many SA girls understandably puts many guys off, but it is a common-theme on that site. I really think SA girls determine IF they will bang guys based solely on that one (1) pic guys send to girls. Also you can Refuse to send pics and STILL hook-up on SA....

SA is Quantum Hottie local girls who could get hired at local strip-clubs and also dilapidated, Benny Hill-style, menacing "street" girls. And all kinds in-between. Be cautious walking into any situation but keep an open mind, Gentlemen...!!!

[Whatwhathuh]

I used SA in the past, but fortunately my rotation is full of civvie girls that I don't have to pay. I do like to peruse now and again and am always amused if a girl I'm sleeping with has an account on there; there are 2 of them that do. Somehow I doubt I'd be able to land these chicks off the site vs. what I'm currently doing (tinder). Something about that site...

[Charley3]

It’s always been a mixed bag. All depends on age, marital status, looks, game and now willingness to risk covid. I like it much more then Indys or this site, but it’s worse now then ever due to covid.

[happyjak]

I had great success with SA in the past. The past year or more the site has really gone downhill. Because of Covid, there are so many young girls out of work and think they can get money for just being a text buddy.

[IMGTH58]

What you get out of it is due in part to what your expectations are. I've been a long time consumer of SA and it fits what I seek, so to speak. I haven't been active since earlier this year because I found what I was looking for: a consistent, ongoing "hybrid" relationship with a genuine "non pro" much younger than I. From what I hear SA has deteriorated, but it goes both ways. Many report the site is infested with men scammers and fraudsters taking advantage of the naive, which only brings down the quality on both ends.

[Noodles]

I’ve had some success with SA in the past. Not the best and not the worst, but a coupe interesting’arrangements’ Marital status definitely factors in the equation. Much more so with COVID if your working arrangement is now based out of your house - it wasn’t perfect before from the office, but at least there was a possibility of being away from the office.

[DrivesAllDay]

I usually had good luck with SA. Been CND only twice. I prefer their method as opposed to the sites that have you buy "tokens", which you run out of before you start getting into the details.


But yea, I'm seeing more "online only" or "onlyfans" girls on there. Thanks but No Thanks!!! I can view porn pics & videos of much better looking women for free. I think most of them will disappear with the Corona Virus Vaccine. What will their excuse be then??



I also skip the ones that are looking for someone to pay their college tuition. Like, Bitch, get a student loan like the rest of us!! Your odds of landing a horny billionaire is slim to none.

[SixtyPlus]

My experience with SA goes back about six years. I had what could be considered success using the site. I met a goodly number of women who, one way or another, were willing to meet up within the first week or so. They generally had specific wants and needs and a price for services was easily agreed upon. Eventually I met an SA woman with whom I shared a passionate five year relationship.

After the affair ran its course I got back into the game. I found more frustration with SA this time around. I did meet one lady who settled on a price quickly. During our first meet-up, we realized we had actually met before through Indys. But overall, I just kept running into women who wanted money just to be my "emotional support". No thanks.

Since then SA has suspended my membership. Something in my profile triggered it. I tried to reapply with a new profile and was suspended again. I think they recognized me this time through my credit card information.

So I don't know if I'll ever be able to get back on that site again. But my experiences while there were generally positive.

[Jsd1970]

I used to peruse SA a few years ago, got some great scores, but my biggest issue with it was unless the girl was a “pro”, they couldn’t ever host. Since I also can’t host, it was a pita.