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Old 05-29-2019, 03:48 PM   #61
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Bull Shit! Anarchy doesn't need to be efficient, it just needs to be consistent and persistent. Slow and easy, one at a time.

Just be thankful that Hillery didn't win. There are more guns than people in the USA. During the reign of King Odumbo where he kept making his proclamations about guns: the result was that ammo and guns were flying off the shelves at every gun store in America the two to three months before the election. Ammo was selling faster than it could be made. At some large gun stores, (yes I can name them) extra check out lines had to be added in the last few months before the 16 election. During that time I made a visit at one store to buy a new 22 rifle because I have wanted that particular model since I was a kid: No 22 caliber ammo was available, that was oK: I had some.

There were several extra checkout lines set up in the gun department, instead of at the front of the store. In addition, there was one line set up just for the registration and purchase of the AR-15 style rifles: That one line was selling at least 200 to over 250 AR-15 style rifles per day for the two months leading up to the 16 election. That is what several clerks told me. After the election the extra gun purchase cash registers were taken down.

Wow, I don't even like the AR-15: personally I think it is a stupid weapon. A 308, 30-06, 6.5 or a 243 would be a better choice. But, I get it: the AR-15 sells, because it has a cool look - that is why the liberals hate it. But a 243 would reach out much further with less noise, less kick, closer groups and cheaper ammo. You don't need a cannon to do the job. A 30-06 or a 308 (M-14) can center a group on an 8" bull's eye at 1000 yards with open sights. A 243 can do that, with more drop. A scope makes it easier.

With Hillery defeated, things have slowed down a lot: gun and ammo prices have dropped by an unbelievable amount. 22 ammo is now available for regular purchase. Thousands of rounds of all types of ammo were purchased just for the anticipated civil war if Hillery should have won.

You don't believe it Damdemocrat? Believe it! Thank Donald Trump for your salvation. You were saved by the 16 election.

I know you don't believe this because you have your head in the ground like an ostrich.

But believe one thing: this country is fully armed, and ready for a scattered but determined civil war. The only question is just how much it would have taken to push this situation over the edge.

An analogy: the Civil War of the 1860's was started because the final straw was the election of Lincoln. The final straw for 2016 would have been the election of Hillary.

I believe, with reasons, that if it should happen, it may start in scattered places: a few here and there. The targets will be certain corrupt politicians that have taken advantage of their positions to rob American Society. These are mostly the Democrats, but not all.

The solution, I don't know. But I do know that the Democrat party must change, or be replaced. There are a lot of pissed off people. The Democrates have stepped over the line. But, here needs to be more than one party in the government of the USA.

The thing that will help to further calm things down is the re-election of Trump and the continued appointment of Federal Judge, throughout the judicial system, that have been properly selected for their appreciation of the US Constitution.
Easy Motherfucker, I am not a threat to you.
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:13 PM   #62
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From JR Lawrence-Wow, I don't even like the AR-15: personally I think it is a stupid weapon. A 308, 30-06, 6.5 or a 243 would be a better choice. But, I get it: the AR-15 sells, because it has a cool look - that is why the liberals hate it. But a 243 would reach out much further with less noise, less kick, closer groups and cheaper ammo. You don't need a cannon to do the job. A 30-06 or a 308 (M-14) can center a group on an 8" bull's eye at 1000 yards with open sights. A 243 can do that, with more drop. A scope makes it easier.



I am non-plussed by this - you have familiarity with firearms - BUT - currently - 20 rounds of .223 run $5 versus 20 rounds of .243 run about $15 - rounded down. The AR-15- ,223/.556 is not a "cannon" - it was developed for lighter rounds to carry more ammo by troops using the M-16.
As far as noise, kick, grouping - comparable in many ways - including the range of bullet weight- about 55- 75 Gr. Grouping - depends on the weapon and shooter.

The .243 is a larger round and carries more energy at muzzle than a .223.

Apologis - a bit off topic.




It is fine that you do not care for the AR-15- America's most popular rifle. I do not own one, but use Ruger Mini-14's and HK -93 rifles in .556.

Anyone that can center an 8" group at 1000 yards with open sights is a far better marksman and better eyesight than I - I cannot see an 8" target at 1000 yards. 100 yards - give you that.

Given that a .556 is not generally considered a deer rifle, and a .243 is often used for deer hunting. Due to the increased round energy.

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I like my Garand in 30-06 and my AR-15. Like golf clubs, they each have a different purpose but they'll cover the other purpose in a pinch.
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Old 05-29-2019, 04:59 PM   #64
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you know they make a AR-10 it uses 7.62 or.308 round! I have one, it has a 20 round clip
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Old 05-29-2019, 05:29 PM   #65
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The BAR kept many enemy pinned down...
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Old 05-29-2019, 05:34 PM   #66
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Yeah, they cost an arm and a leg.
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Old 05-29-2019, 08:24 PM   #67
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The BAR kept many enemy pinned down...
Clyde had three of them:




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One the day that Bonnie and Clyde were killed, the authorities found an arsenal of weapons in their car that was enough for a small army:
  • Seven .45 Colt 1911 pistols
  • One .32 caliber Colt automatic pistol
  • One sawed-off 20 gauge Remington Model 11 shotgun (Bonnie’s favorite)
  • Three .30-06 Browning Automatic Rifles (Clyde’s favorite)
  • One double action Colt revolver
  • One sawed-off Winchester 10 gauge lever action shotgun
  • One .380 caliber Colt automatic pistol

Furthermore, there were also 3,000 rounds of various ammunition, and 100 BAR magazines with 20 cartridges in each.
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So you're saying they were typical gun owners...
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:39 AM   #69
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Clyde had three of them:

2000 of the 3000 rounds were for his favorite..."peace keeper"
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So you're saying they were typical gun owners...
I don't think they "owned" anything...
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:42 AM   #71
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So you're saying they were typical gun owners...
Could'a mentioned SSG L-Rod Petty with FOX Company of the 2nd Ranger Battalion at Hill 400 in the Hürtgen Forest. He favored the BAR, too. He used one at Pointe du Hoc as well. The 75th Anniversary is next week.



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I don't think they "owned" anything...



Yep! All "stolen".
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