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Old 09-23-2017, 02:56 PM   #1
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Default Quite the hypocrisy when 80% of Congress

voted for "The Wall" in 2006, including Hillary Clinton, Chucky Schumer, Diane Feinstein and let us not forget the one and only Divider in Chief Barack Hussein Obama.

HMMMM, how things change in a few years.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262
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Not the same wall and you know it gramma.
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Not the same wall and you know it gramma.




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Old 09-23-2017, 04:26 PM   #4
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Not the same wall and you know it gramma.

What was it a picket fence you stupid koolaid drinking bitch. Go join your boyfriend in the afterlife. The anniversary is coming up. Make him proud.
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Old 09-23-2017, 05:53 PM   #5
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voted for "The Wall" in 2006, including Hillary Clinton, Chucky Schumer, Diane Feinstein and let us not forget the one and only Divider in Chief Barack Hussein Obama.

HMMMM, how things change in a few years.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262
You are ignorant of the actual history....or maybe you are trying on purpose to distort. Either way, you are not telling the whole truth.

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/dem...t-border-wall/

A spokesman in Schumer’s office pointed out similar contrasts between the two plans. Trump during the campaign called for a 30-foot tall concrete wall for the length of the border. But the Secure Fence Act was “a bipartisan plan to strategically place clear-view, secure fencing that works hand in glove with surveillance technology. Democrats and Republicans have supported such policies in the 2006 Secure Fence Act and the 2013 bipartisan immigration reform law,” Schumer’s spokesman said.
“The contexts, I think, were different,” Michelle Mittelstadt, director of communications at the Migration Policy Institute, told us via email. “Today’s discussion involves fencing off the entire 2,000-mile border while the earlier debate focused on adding significant (700 miles) but still limited miles of fencing at locations designated by DHS as necessary.”
The flow of illegal immigration has also changed dramatically since 2006, Mittelstadt said. When the Secure Fence Act was being debated in 2006, it was a time of surging illegal immigration. The peak in the unauthorized population was reached in 2007, Mittelstadt said, when it was estimated at 12.2 million people – a number that has since declined by more than 1 million. Total apprehensions of illegal immigrants along the southern border are also down, from just over a million in fiscal year 2006 to about 400,000 in 2016, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
Mittelstadt noted that the political context is also vastly different, as some Democrats ceded to the Secure Fence Act as a political compromise to a Republican plan to criminalize all unauthorized immigrants, and to make it a crime to assist unauthorized immigrants.
“It’s an apples-to-oranges comparison,” agreed Edward Alden, an expert on immigration policy at the Council on Foreign Relations.
“The Secure Fence Act was written in a way to get support from both sides,” Alden told us via email. “The Democrats, by and large, supported the use of ‘tactical’ fencing in high-traffic areas, something that the Border Patrol had long favored. Trump’s wall proposal seems to call for fencing the entire border, which Democrats have never supported.”
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You are ignorant of the actual history....or maybe you are trying on purpose to distort. Either way, you are not telling the whole truth.

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/dem...t-border-wall/

A spokesman in Schumer’s office pointed out similar contrasts between the two plans. Trump during the campaign called for a 30-foot tall concrete wall for the length of the border. But the Secure Fence Act was “a bipartisan plan to strategically place clear-view, secure fencing that works hand in glove with surveillance technology. Democrats and Republicans have supported such policies in the 2006 Secure Fence Act and the 2013 bipartisan immigration reform law,” Schumer’s spokesman said.
“The contexts, I think, were different,” Michelle Mittelstadt, director of communications at the Migration Policy Institute, told us via email. “Today’s discussion involves fencing off the entire 2,000-mile border while the earlier debate focused on adding significant (700 miles) but still limited miles of fencing at locations designated by DHS as necessary.”
The flow of illegal immigration has also changed dramatically since 2006, Mittelstadt said. When the Secure Fence Act was being debated in 2006, it was a time of surging illegal immigration. The peak in the unauthorized population was reached in 2007, Mittelstadt said, when it was estimated at 12.2 million people – a number that has since declined by more than 1 million. Total apprehensions of illegal immigrants along the southern border are also down, from just over a million in fiscal year 2006 to about 400,000 in 2016, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
Mittelstadt noted that the political context is also vastly different, as some Democrats ceded to the Secure Fence Act as a political compromise to a Republican plan to criminalize all unauthorized immigrants, and to make it a crime to assist unauthorized immigrants.
“It’s an apples-to-oranges comparison,” agreed Edward Alden, an expert on immigration policy at the Council on Foreign Relations.
“The Secure Fence Act was written in a way to get support from both sides,” Alden told us via email. “The Democrats, by and large, supported the use of ‘tactical’ fencing in high-traffic areas, something that the Border Patrol had long favored. Trump’s wall proposal seems to call for fencing the entire border, which Democrats have never supported.”
Shove your racist fact checker up your communist 0zombie ass, WTFacist...

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How can you tell. SLOBBRIN?
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Old 09-23-2017, 11:57 PM   #8
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voted for "The Wall" in 2006, including Hillary Clinton, Chucky Schumer, Diane Feinstein and let us not forget the one and only Divider in Chief Barack Hussein Obama.

HMMMM, how things change in a few years.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262
And its imo even worse when 90% of the GOP RAN On a platform of REPEAL of obamacare, now all they want to do is alter a few things and slap "trump care' on it..
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Oops. SLOBBRIN seemed to hit the brick wall on that one. Face first.
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Old 09-24-2017, 06:05 AM   #10
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You are ignorant of the actual history....or maybe you are trying on purpose to distort. Either way, you are not telling the whole truth.

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/04/dem...t-border-wall/

A spokesman in Schumer’s office pointed out similar contrasts between the two plans. Trump during the campaign called for a 30-foot tall concrete wall for the length of the border. But the Secure Fence Act was “a bipartisan plan to strategically place clear-view, secure fencing that works hand in glove with surveillance technology. Democrats and Republicans have supported such policies in the 2006 Secure Fence Act and the 2013 bipartisan immigration reform law,” Schumer’s spokesman said.
“The contexts, I think, were different,” Michelle Mittelstadt, director of communications at the Migration Policy Institute, told us via email. “Today’s discussion involves fencing off the entire 2,000-mile border while the earlier debate focused on adding significant (700 miles) but still limited miles of fencing at locations designated by DHS as necessary.”
The flow of illegal immigration has also changed dramatically since 2006, Mittelstadt said. When the Secure Fence Act was being debated in 2006, it was a time of surging illegal immigration. The peak in the unauthorized population was reached in 2007, Mittelstadt said, when it was estimated at 12.2 million people – a number that has since declined by more than 1 million. Total apprehensions of illegal immigrants along the southern border are also down, from just over a million in fiscal year 2006 to about 400,000 in 2016, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
Mittelstadt noted that the political context is also vastly different, as some Democrats ceded to the Secure Fence Act as a political compromise to a Republican plan to criminalize all unauthorized immigrants, and to make it a crime to assist unauthorized immigrants.
“It’s an apples-to-oranges comparison,” agreed Edward Alden, an expert on immigration policy at the Council on Foreign Relations.
“The Secure Fence Act was written in a way to get support from both sides,” Alden told us via email. “The Democrats, by and large, supported the use of ‘tactical’ fencing in high-traffic areas, something that the Border Patrol had long favored. Trump’s wall proposal seems to call for fencing the entire border, which Democrats have never supported.”
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Ms Cherie won't be able to recover from this. Seven hundred miles of fencing is a lot different than 2,000 miles of a wall.

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Old 09-24-2017, 09:43 AM   #11
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Shove your racist fact checker up your communist 0zombie ass, WTFacist...

Yea.....unlike you, I deal in facts.

Sorry that is such a problem for your ignorant ass.

Maybe you should start a thread about how white girls bleed so you can spew racists videos daily.






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WTF,
You say you deal in facts but anything that comes from Schumer's office will be an absolute lie or so bias and distorted that it certainly can't be described as fact. I don't recall how Trump described the wall during the campaign but the current discussion is not for a 30' high concrete wall the entire length of the border. There are several companies building prototypes of a secure border fence. Some may be concrete but not all and the decision has not been made yet. Also, they are not planning on fencing the entire border. Some areas are considered impassable for the most part and would not require a fence. Drones are also a part of the plan as well as more border patrol officers. The main point of the plan is to have a secure border and the left's base wants open borders. This is purely a play by the left to pander to their base. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37982000

BS at it's best.
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