Oh no...the price of oil is dropping. Who do we blame! :)

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by WTF

What you and Tiny continue to have trouble understanding is separating the hype from actuality.

Au contraire. My pie chart demonstrates how all the hype about/subsidies for green energy have yielded very meager results in actuality.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by lustylad

In your desperation, you started attributing straw-man arguments to everyone. You figured "By golly, if they won't say it, I'll just put the words in their mouths!" You're still doing it 400 posts later.

Originally Posted by WTF

Lustylad and his captive Tiny seem to think Biden, Bernie and AOC are responsible for the price and production of oil here in this country.

Originally Posted by WTF

You two seem to think AOC holds more sway over production and price in this country than OPEC and Russia.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by WTF

And you can go fuck yourself.

You posted numbers from 1960 to 1979.

Go back to the 40's to present. A blind squirrel can see where it started spiking....but evidently a squirrelly fuck who does not understand the difference in State deficits and Federal deficits needs to just stfu.

You're just going to get embarrassed like you did in the energy independence thread. Shall we revisit your definition?

is this your original post?

Originally Posted by WTF

I've already told you I look at actions not words. You can claim you are straight while have a dick in your ass. Your actions would not be in line with you words.

We have 40 years of facts that I have based my view on.

Care to take a look at something you used to tout. GDP/Debt

1980 $908 32% Volcker raised fed rate to 20%
1981 $998 31% Reagan tax cut
1982 $1,142 34% Reagan increased spending
1983 $1,377 37% Jobless rate 10.8%
1984 $1,572 38% Increased defense spending
1985 $1,823 41%
1986 $2,125 46% Reagan lowered taxes
1987 $2,350 48% Market crash
1988 $2,602 50% Fed raised rates
1989 $2,857 51% S&L Crisis
1990 $3,233 54% First Iraq War
1991 $3,665 58% Recession
1992 $4,065 61%
1993 $4,411 63% Omnibus Budget Act
1994 $4,693 64% Clinton budgets
1995 $4,974 64%
1996 $5,225 64% Welfare reform
1997 $5,413 63%
1998 $5,526 60% LTCM crisis & recession
1999 $5,656 58% Glass-Steagall repealed
2000 $5,674 55% Budget surplus
2001 $5,807 55% 9/11 attacks & EGTRRA
2002 $6,228 57% War on Terror
2003 $6,783 59% JGTRRA & Iraq War
2004 $7,379 60% Iraq War
2005 $7,933 61% Bankruptcy Act & Katrina.
2006 $8,507 61% Bernanke chaired Fed
2007 $9,008 62% Bank crisis
2008 $10,025 68% Bank bailout & QE
2009 $11,910 82% Bailout cost $250B ARRA added $242B
2010 $13,562 90% ARRA added $400B, payroll tax holiday ended, Obama Tax cuts, ACA, Simpson-Bowles
2011 $14,790 95% Debt crisis, recession and tax cuts reduced revenue
2012 $16,066 99% Fiscal cliff
2013 $16,738 99% Sequester, government shutdown
2014 $17,824 101% QE ended, debt ceiling crisis
2015 $18,151 100% Oil prices fell
2016 $19,573 105% Brexit
2017 $20,245 104% Congress raised the debt ceiling
2018 $21,516 105% Trump tax cuts
2019 $22,719 107% Trade wars
2020 $27,748 129% COVID-19 & 2020 recession
2021 $28,400 125% COVID-19 & American Rescue Plan Act

this is my reply

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

hold my beer, mate ..


Quote:
Originally Posted by WTF
I've already told you I look at actions not words. You can claim you are straight while have a dick in your ass. Your actions would not be in line with you words.

We have 40 years of facts that I have based my view on.

Care to take a look at something you used to tout. GDP/Debt


End of Fiscal YearDebt (in billions, rounded)Debt-to-GDP RatioMajor Events by Presidential Term

1929 $17 16% Market crash
1930 $16 17% Smoot-Hawley reduced trade
1931 $17 22% Dust Bowl drought raged
1932 $20 34% Hoover raised taxes
1933 $23 40% New Deal increased GDP & debt
1934 $27 40%
1935 $29 39% Social Security
1936 $34 40% Tax hikes renewed depression
1937 $36 39% Third New Deal
1938 $37 42% Dust Bowl ended
1939 $40 51% Depression ended
1940 $43 49% FDR increased spending & raised taxes
1941 $49 44% U.S. entered WWII
1942 $72 48% Defense tripled
1943 $137 70%
1944 $201 91% Bretton Woods
1945 $259 114% WWII ended
1946 $269 119% Truman's 1st term budgets & recession
1947 $258 103% Cold War
1948 $252 92% Recession
1949 $253 93% Recession
1950 $257 86% Korean War boosted growth and debt
1951 $255 74%
1952 $259 71%
1953 $266 68% Recession when war ended
1954 $271 69% Eisenhower's budgets & Recession
1955 $274 64%
1956 $273 61%
1957 $271 57% Recession
1958 $276 58% Eisenhower's 2nd term & recession
1959 $285 55% Fed raised rates
1960 $286 54% Recession
1961 $289 52% Bay of Pigs
1962 $298 50% JFK budgets & Cuban missile crisis
1963 $306 48% U.S. aids Vietnam, JFK killed
1964 $312 46% LBJ's budgets & war on poverty
1965 $317 43% U.S. entered Vietnam War
1966 $320 40% 1967 $326 40%
1968 $348 39%
1969 $354 36% Nixon took office
1970 $371 35% Recession
1971 $398 35% Wage-price controls
1972 $427 34% Stagflation
1973 $458 33% Nixon ended gold standard & OPEC oil embargo
1974 $475 31% Watergate & budget process created
1975 $533 32% Vietnam War ended
1976 $620 33% Stagflation
1977 $699 34% Stagflation
1978 $772 33% Carter budgets & recession
1979 $82732%
1980 $908 32% Volcker raised fed rate to 20%
1981 $998 31% Reagan tax cut
1982 $1,142 34% Reagan increased spending
1983 $1,377 37% Jobless rate 10.8%
1984 $1,572 38% Increased defense spending
1985 $1,823 41%
1986 $2,125 46% Reagan lowered taxes
1987 $2,350 48% Market crash
1988 $2,602 50% Fed raised rates
1989 $2,857 51% S&L Crisis
1990 $3,233 54% First Iraq War
1991 $3,665 58% Recession
1992 $4,065 61%
1993 $4,411 63% Omnibus Budget Act
1994 $4,693 64% Clinton budgets
1995 $4,974 64%
1996 $5,225 64% Welfare reform
1997 $5,413 63%
1998 $5,526 60% LTCM crisis & recession
1999 $5,656 58% Glass-Steagall repealed
2000 $5,674 55% Budget surplus
2001 $5,807 55% 9/11 attacks & EGTRRA
2002 $6,228 57% War on Terror
2003 $6,783 59% JGTRRA & Iraq War
2004 $7,379 60% Iraq War
2005 $7,933 61% Bankruptcy Act & Katrina.
2006 $8,507 61% Bernanke chaired Fed
2007 $9,008 62% Bank crisis
2008 $10,025 68% Bank bailout & QE
2009 $11,910 82% Bailout cost $250B ARRA added $242B
2010 $13,562 90% ARRA added $400B, payroll tax holiday ended, Obama Tax cuts, ACA, Simpson-Bowles
2011 $14,790 95% Debt crisis, recession and tax cuts reduced revenue
2012 $16,066 99% Fiscal cliff
2013 $16,738 99% Sequester, government shutdown
2014 $17,824 101% QE ended, debt ceiling crisis
2015 $18,151 100% Oil prices fell
2016 $19,573 105% Brexit
2017 $20,245 104% Congress raised the debt ceiling
2018 $21,516 105% Trump tax cuts
2019 $22,719 107% Trade wars
2020 $27,748 129% COVID-19 & 2020 recession
2021 $28,400 125% COVID-19 & American Rescue Plan Act



your contention is wrong. Reagan didn't start the debt. it existed for decades before he became president. the numbers show it.


that it continued after him is meaningless. it existed for decades before him. you probably aren't some uber lib Ronnie hater like some here obviously are but you post like it.


you've been making a fool of yourself over this for weeks now and acting like a petulant child because no one agrees with you, because you are wrong.

I'm the one who added ALL the data to YOUR original post.


click on the little gray button and you go back to YOUR original post ... both times .. EXCEPT my reply has all the data i ADDED to yours when i quoted it. only my REPLY has ALL the DATA


BQQM


You've been TWK'd

[Ghostrid3r]

Lol dropping. Smdh.

[the_real_Barleycorn]

WTF is like the Scorpio character in Dirty Harry; he pays to get his ass kicked.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Blimey! ... a 2c drop in price at the petrol gas pump.

What a way to flatten the curve!

"Let's Go Brandon!:

### Salty

... Crikey! ... posted this 10 weeks ago... Because I was NOT
convinced that the prices would drop.

And look at things NOW.... ..

#### Salty

[texassapper]

This post didn't age well....

[WTF]

Originally Posted by texassapper

This post didn't age well....

It will at some point!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

is this your original post?





this is my reply





I'm the one who added ALL the data to YOUR original post.


click on the little gray button and you go back to YOUR original post ... both times .. EXCEPT my reply has all the data i ADDED to yours when i quoted it. only my REPLY has ALL the DATA


BQQM


You've been TWK'd

Of course there was debt before Reagan!

But my point was that the debt to GDP ration was where it started rising exponentially.