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Old 10-11-2019, 08:38 PM   #1
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Saw this article that was written last week in Vanity Fair magazine. The author lays out the scenario of the Robert Kraft debacle in Florida. From start to finish it goes through the residual effects of the LE efforts trying to uncover a trafficking ring. While most media outlets have left this story this article brings it up to date for those who may be interested.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...f-robert-kraft
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:39 PM   #2
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Thanks for posting. Very good info to have.
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Old 10-12-2019, 05:48 AM   #3
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Good and informative article. Outlines the potential hazards of frequenting AMPS.
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Old 10-12-2019, 12:34 PM   #4
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That is an interesting read.
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:03 PM   #5
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nice read.. the Kraft Cops arrested the so-called Trafficked girls, none of whom turned out to be trafficked.. in Dallas they arrest the Housekeepers, so-called "mamasans".. meanwhile owners are untouched, even as the city licenses the Spas. major clusterfuck going on. we had a bust the other day, the Dallas Morning News headlined "human trafficking".. bullshit journalism, 2 Mamasans jailed.. fucking Housekeepers in their 60's.
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Old 10-12-2019, 06:50 PM   #6
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nice read.. the Kraft Cops arrested the so-called Trafficked girls, none of whom turned out to be trafficked.. in Dallas they arrest the Housekeepers, so-called "mamasans".. meanwhile owners are untouched, even as the city licenses the Spas. major clusterfuck going on. we had a bust the other day, the Dallas Morning News headlined "human trafficking".. bullshit journalism, 2 Mamasans jailed.. fucking Housekeepers in their 60's.

interesting read indeed! especially the attempts to tie this to President Trump, yeah?
it seems Kraft isn't quite the self-made dude i thought he was, he married into money and got his job via his father-in-law but did manage a leveraged buyout.

i am not surprised one bit that the so-called stats for trafficking are completely bogus to the point of being intentional fraud! and yet this horseshit is being peddled to the public as fact and used as the basis for these new laws which are crap. of course people here derided Trump for signing this horseshit. well he had to because the moral morons would have had a field day over it, they are trying to impeach Trump over any flimsy shit and if he had vetoed this "veto-proof" horseshit they'd try to impeach him over that too!

i don't always agree with "General" Chung Tran but as a fellow "brother of the AMP's" we both know full well what horseshit this "trafficking" claim is when these spa's get busted. between the two of us we've easily had over 1,000 .. yeah ONE THOUSAND sessions with amp girls and if one out of every 100 girls I've seen were trafficked i'd be surprised. i bet the General would be too.

the fact that the case for trafficking in this Kraft case has completely fallen apart is proof. these girls are in it for the money. many of the AMP girls in the US were in the biz in Asia and came here to make more money. even the "rookies" know exactly what is involved from the biz. here's a fact i know personally having traveled extensively around Asia ...asian men covet youth .. not underage per se .. but youth. girls in the biz in Asia, especially Japan and also China and South Korea are "over the hill" at 25. they get relegated to low end places that service Gaijin .. foreigners. foreigners are not allowed at the best places in Asia unless you are well connected .. i.e. rich and only with native Asians. so these girls once they hit "expiration date" in Asia come to America. a 25 year old AMP girl in Asia is old news. in America she's worth her weight in Gold, Silver and Platinum.

Kraft, in many ways, appears to be as naive as his fellow billionaire and NFL team owner Jerral Jones when he exclaimed "I want me some glory hole!" not have a fucking clue what that means in sex world terms. Kraft had no idea either, but once he found out of course he went back for more! he found his "glory hole" bahhaaaaa.

Kraft will ultimately win his case. not because of his money .. well mostly because of his money but because the case itself is deeply flawed especially the video evidence.
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:03 AM   #7
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these girls are in it for the money. many of the AMP girls in the US were in the biz in Asia and came here to make more money. even the "rookies" know exactly what is involved from the biz. here's a fact i know personally having traveled extensively around Asia ...asian men covet youth .. not underage per se .. but youth. girls in the biz in Asia, especially Japan and also China and South Korea are "over the hill" at 25. they get relegated to low end places that service Gaijin .. foreigners. foreigners are not allowed at the best places in Asia unless you are well connected .. i.e. rich and only with native Asians. so these girls once they hit "expiration date" in Asia come to America. a 25 year old AMP girl in Asia is old news. in America she's worth her weight in Gold, Silver and Platinum.
this is absolute FACT.. well said, and literally true down to the exact age of "expiration".. 25 is THE cut-off age, throw in Vietnam with the other Countries mentioned. you might as well stamp an expiration date on the girls, 25 is it.

after you understand that, the rest of the discussion falls into place. these AMP ladies have already been doing their work in Asia, they come to the US willingly, eagerly, to continue.. and by the way, with Visas issued by the State Department in conjunction with USCIS. this trafficking narrative is so absurd.. imagine being Asian, walking through the Airport to baggage claim, and seeing a huge fucking poster of an Asian girl, with "see something, say something" inscribed.. how racist and judgmental. how about walking up to a Caucasian-owned Nail Salon, and seeing State-required posters in the window, talking about "trafficking is a major problem", under the assumption that Asians own and operate the Salon, and probably one or more workers are trafficked. why not require signs in the window of Leroy's BBQ stand in Oak Cliff, saying crack cocaine is a scourge, keep your eyes open for drug dealing? what is the fucking difference?
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Old 10-17-2019, 03:48 PM   #8
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ONE THOUSAND sessions...
* 200 = $200,000 dollars. Between the two of you, you could have opened a legit business. Not saying you don't already make good money, but the reason I hate this hobby so much is how frickin expensive it is.
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* 200 = $200,000 dollars. Between the two of you, you could have opened a legit business. Not saying you don't already make good money, but the reason I hate this hobby so much is how frickin expensive it is.

but think of the memories!


seriously, in my case and most likely Chung Tran's this goes back 25 years and prices weren't that high back in the day. if you take my 500 sessions estimate and use $200 per that's about $4,000 a year. as it is, i drink and smoke many people's car payment and it doesn't matter .. at least in terms of money.
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Old 12-24-2019, 12:34 PM   #10
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Homeland Security is protecting us now! they didn't have enough harassment to do at the Border, or in TSA lines, so they now pay to fuck trafficking victims!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/arizona-d...l?guccounter=1

biggest do-nothing criminal organization the Government ever spawned.
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Old 12-27-2019, 04:49 PM   #11
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some texas police departments also do this.
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Old 12-30-2019, 08:38 PM   #12
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Default Interesting read, and thanks for the broader discussion

This discussion about the age of Asian providers is revealing. I have noticed many Asian providers in the U.S. are over 25, and now this makes more sense. I had never before heard about the age thing in Asia. It's hard to know what is up with Kraft. Can he be so naïve? Yes, he is a silver spoon, but that isn't an explanation. I suppose it's possible a grown man with residences in multiple places and a world traveler would not have known about massage parlors and happy endings. But not likely. He's doing what he must do to leave this all in the rear view mirror. It is especially despicable that law enforcement installed surveillance devices.
That's big brother going beserk.The religious zealots of Florida are not alone -- this type of high-minded, god-fearing behavior is happening all over the place. Trafficking
is certainly an issue, but the general public needs to understand that many prostitutes actually choose this lifestyle, and enjoy it. That's an under-reported aspect of the story.
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Old 01-20-2020, 07:36 PM   #13
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Geez, AMP “girls” in PGH are usually in their 50’s!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-21-2020, 06:07 PM   #14
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And now for something completely different:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC7mygoBf3Y
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