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View Poll Results: Where do the rights of US citizens come from?
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Since they are listed in the Constitution those rights come from government.
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Believe it or not the King of England. We were grandfathered in from the Magna Carta.
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Our rights are natural rights or they came from God. The BOR enumerates them.
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Popular opinion, like slavery, rights are based on popularity and the wishes of the people.
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10-11-2017, 07:40 AM
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Samuel Colt.
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10-11-2017, 01:19 PM
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I think that's where a lot people get their Drivers License from, lol.
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It certainly explains why so many illegals seem to have proper licenses..
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10-11-2017, 07:39 PM
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It certainly explains why so many illegals seem to have proper licenses..
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a fake license can command top dollar! its a profitable business for the corrupt.
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10-11-2017, 11:19 PM
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Which is imo why when those who USE fake paperwork or MAKE them should suffer Stiffer penalties than the paltry few years we give them.
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10-12-2017, 04:22 AM
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a fake license can command top dollar! its a profitable business for the corrupt.
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It certainly explains why so many illegals seem to have proper licenses..
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You're just not shopping at the "correct" flea markets.
Here's a hint .... California issues a DL to an illegal alien, who then has a legit, California DL. Is that "illegal alien" then legally "authorized" to drive in another state with the California DL? "Mary Jane" provider is!
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10-12-2017, 05:11 AM
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The poll is defective.
According to the philosopher statesman Cicero, natural rights, resulting in any valid law, are rooted in nature.
John Adams was a proponent of Cicero's views during the formation of the United States.
Interestingly, Cicero was murdered during political retribution.
Thank you for attending this class in "American History is not original and is simply a rerun".
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10-12-2017, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter
The poll is defective.
According to the philosopher statesman Cicero, natural rights, resulting in any valid law, are rooted in nature.
John Adams was a proponent of Cicero's views during the formation of the United States.
Interestingly, Cicero was murdered during political retribution.
Thank you for attending this class in "American History is not original and is simply a rerun".
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actually, its slightly defective. it lacks a don't know entry/don't care entry.
yours & cicero's point is #3 of the poll which mentions natural law.
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10-12-2017, 08:33 AM
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Yes, what he said. Considering the intellectual caliber of some on the left I kept it as simple as I could.
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10-12-2017, 10:06 AM
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....yours & cicero's point is #3 of the poll which mentions natural law.
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dilbert, dilbert, dilbert, go back to your cube.
Why do you assume that natural law derives from God? Pray tell and we can get into why a guest lecturer does not get invited back to a Seminary college even when the students request that.
And "enumerated by the BOR" is a defective addon as the BOR only covers a select few of all of the natural laws.
Thus, for both these reasons, that answer is not a correct option, leaving zero valid choices resulting in a defective poll.
Thank you for attending this class of Religious and Atheistic cultures of the world vs. Governments.
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10-12-2017, 10:16 AM
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Yes, what he said. Considering the intellectual caliber of some on the left I kept it as simple as I could.
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This I do agree with.
But, next time include a correct choice. Even if the choice is spoon fed to most of the viewing audience.
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10-12-2017, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
You're just not shopping at the "correct" flea markets.
Here's a hint .... California issues a DL to an illegal alien, who then has a legit, California DL. Is that "illegal alien" then legally "authorized" to drive in another state with the California DL? "Mary Jane" provider is!
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Unfortunately, by the law (well the rule on full faith and credit).
BUT IMO NO state should be forced to accept any ID as "Valid" from a state that issues illegal aliens drivers licenses..
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10-12-2017, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Unique_Carpenter
The poll is defective.
According to the philosopher statesman Cicero, natural rights, resulting in any valid law, are rooted in nature.
John Adams was a proponent of Cicero's views during the formation of the United States.
Interestingly, Cicero was murdered during political retribution.
Thank you for attending this class in "American History is not original and is simply a rerun".
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Yes, what he said.
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Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn
Yes, what he said. Considering the intellectual caliber of some on the left I kept it as simple as I could.
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What he said. The poll is defective. So is your excuse for it being defective.
The idea of making it simple by not including a comprehensively correct answer shows laziness.
In simple terms, you fucked up and your excuse for fucking up shows your own "intellectual caliber".
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10-13-2017, 08:49 AM
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Drinking the bitter Kool aid I see. Yep, gun control is failing as is Nancy Pelosi, Hillary is becoming even more unwelcome and the left has no viable candidates again. Global warming is a bigger fraud and there is a sink hole in Hollywood named Weinstein who threatens to pull so many down. I can see why you're bitter.
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10-13-2017, 08:59 AM
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BUT IMO NO state should be forced to accept any ID as "Valid" from a state that issues illegal aliens drivers licenses..
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There is a distinction between being "forced" and "accepting"!
At least in Texas with which I am familiar, there is a distinction in the "rights" afforded one with a Texas DL and one with a "foreign" state .. which is primarily based on the FACT that Texans are more familiar with Texas DL's than "foreign" DL's.
Example:
For determining drinking age when ordering a drink in Texas.
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10-13-2017, 09:01 AM
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Drinking the bitter Kool aid I see.
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If a "defective poll" is the extent of their objections to the data, then 2018 is in the bag! Their "poll history" is bleak to say the least. Disastrous is more like it!
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