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Old 12-05-2018, 08:20 AM   #1
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Default Trump question

Simple question. What do you think is more important to Trump. The state of the country, or if people like him.
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Old 12-05-2018, 10:52 AM   #2
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Trump is motivated by personal honor like the founding fathers. He was being insulted a lot by different Presidents and politicians and so to prove he was not subordinate to them he ran for office and beat them all.

He isn't motivated by any altruistic reason like people say of George HW Bush when they say he lived a life "committed to public service."

Bush was motivated by a will to power and status, and to make contacts for business so he could make money for himself and his family.

Seeking power and status is not altruistic.

Trump does care about the country, but like all politicians he care mostly about himself.

What motivates Trump is that he knows he's more intelligent than all other Presidents, and he likes the challenge of solving the countries' biggest problems. But that again is because of his own self esteem and not altruism.

BTW the Chinese have said on many occasions that Trump is the most intelligent President they've had to deal with, and that is obvious.
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:27 PM   #3
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I suggest you read a little more history about Mr. Trump. There are good reasons Goldman Sachs, and banks in this country will not do business with him.
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Old 12-05-2018, 05:53 PM   #4
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I suggest you read a little more history about Mr. Trump. There are good reasons Goldman Sachs, and banks in this country will not do business with him.

Oh don't bother with him. When it comes to Politics he's one of the most hateful and vitriolic people we have.
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:29 AM   #5
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I suggest you read a little more history about Mr. Trump. There are good reasons Goldman Sachs, and banks in this country will not do business with him.
You have it in reverse. Commercial banks have always lent him everything he's used for all his projects. In the 1980s during the real estate bust when Olympia and York and all the other Titans went into receivership only Trump was spared by his banks because they could continue to make money off of his branding. He got the best deals from his lenders then, and now.

As for Goldman, Lehman, and other investment banks they are not commercial banks. Perhaps you don't know the difference. Goldman, Bear Sterns, and other investment banks (many of which went under by 2009) don't loan money for real estate developers. They fund businesses like oil companies, insurance, and the like in exchange for an equity stake.

Perhaps you should go to Goldman and ask them for a business loan and see what the process is.

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Old 12-10-2018, 11:19 PM   #6
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Trump takes big orange shits. And his piss is red white and blue. What a great president.
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Old 12-11-2018, 10:41 AM   #7
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Trump's closest person in his cabinet is Secretary of Treasury Steve Mnuchin, who spent his career at Goldman.
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Old 12-11-2018, 03:21 PM   #8
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Thankfully some people have sense about our President, the last one was a total POS, how can anyone vote for Dems, they are a bunch of losers!!!
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Thankfully some people have sense about our President, the last one was a total POS, how can anyone vote for Dems, they are a bunch of losers!!!
I'm a Democrat and I support Trump because he's against the globalists in both parties.

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Old 12-13-2018, 03:39 PM   #10
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IMHO-

Trump has been on the record for a long time that this country was mismanaged (by both sides)

He also has stated he could fix many issues.

Somewhere it turned from talk to action. Accident or on purpose, for me I do not care. President Trump was not my first choice, but I am happy with MOST of the results to date. Can tweeting be distraction, yes. Does he speak sometimes before thinking, yes. But on balance he has an impressive list of accomplishments.

Lots of rhetoric from both sides that is not unifying this great country.

Big future items (for me)
- secure border , including physical barrier/wall.... it works, period
- rebuild infrastructure (power, water, rail)

This administration is my best chance to get these initiatives going... so I deal with the side circus shows.

Again, IMHO

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I believe President Trump is country focused... that is why he is able to look past all the character assassination efforts.
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Old 12-13-2018, 03:59 PM   #11
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Big future items (for me)
- secure border , including physical barrier/wall.... it works, period
- rebuild infrastructure (power, water, rail)

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I believe President Trump is country focused... that is why he is able to look past all the character assassination efforts.

He should have put everything in place to build the Wall before the midterm. Now he only has a couple of days to do it. BUT Mexico was suppose to pay for it. *pb looks around for Austin Ellen to see if she finally wants to put an answer to that long asked question.*

He should have already started infrastructure. But the dems didn't seem to do a WPA about it either.

Look past character assasination?!?! That's the only thing he focuses on and responds to.
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Old 12-31-2018, 10:40 AM   #12
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IMHO-

Trump has been on the record for a long time that this country was mismanaged (by both sides)

He also has stated he could fix many issues.

Somewhere it turned from talk to action. Accident or on purpose, for me I do not care. President Trump was not my first choice, but I am happy with MOST of the results to date. Can tweeting be distraction, yes. Does he speak sometimes before thinking, yes. But on balance he has an impressive list of accomplishments.

Lots of rhetoric from both sides that is not unifying this great country.

Big future items (for me)
- secure border , including physical barrier/wall.... it works, period
- rebuild infrastructure (power, water, rail)

This administration is my best chance to get these initiatives going... so I deal with the side circus shows.

Again, IMHO

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I believe President Trump is country focused... that is why he is able to look past all the character assassination efforts.
His biggest accomplishment is calling out the Chinese. Until Trump they were getting away with colossal unfair trade practices and were taking all of us to the cleaners as well as having one of the worst human rights records on the planet. China is a cleptocracy and a surveillance state which imprisons and tortures anyone who criticizes their totalitarian government. What Trump has begun has pulled back the curtain on the whole sordid mess of corporations like Apple, GM, and Starbucks making huge profits doing business with one of the most disgusting governments to ever inhabit the earth. What he's started will eventually lead to regime change there, and it won't be by invading the place and killing a lot of people. It will happen by simply shining a spotlight on their predatory trade policies.
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Old 12-31-2018, 04:57 PM   #13
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His biggest accomplishment is calling out the Chinese. Until Trump they were getting away with colossal unfair trade practices and were taking all of us to the cleaners as well as having one of the worst human rights records on the planet. China is a cleptocracy and a surveillance state which imprisons and tortures anyone who criticizes their totalitarian government. What Trump has begun has pulled back the curtain on the whole sordid mess of corporations like Apple, GM, and Starbucks making huge profits doing business with one of the most disgusting governments to ever inhabit the earth. What he's started will eventually lead to regime change there, and it won't be by invading the place and killing a lot of people. It will happen by simply shining a spotlight on their predatory trade policies.
Agreed on all counts. I think a close second, that came in right under the wire for this year, was the criminal justice reform legislation spearheaded by his admin. Not sure about the opinion of everyone else, but the "war on drugs", while well-meaning IMHO, has been an abject failure in practice. Helping reformed and re-trained ex-cons, who can re-enter the workforce as productive members of society, can only help strengthen our society and reduce the burden on the taxpayer.
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Agreed on all counts. I think a close second, that came in right under the wire for this year, was the criminal justice reform legislation spearheaded by his admin. Not sure about the opinion of everyone else, but the "war on drugs", while well-meaning IMHO, has been an abject failure in practice. Helping reformed and re-trained ex-cons, who can re-enter the workforce as productive members of society, can only help strengthen our society and reduce the burden on the taxpayer.
The "War on Drugs" has turned several Latin American countries, including Mexico, into blood-soaked failed states. Here in America most people in prison for twenty year sentences are there for selling marijuana or for passing along information between dealers and were caught up in "conspiracy" charges for selling nothing but merely putting buyers and sellers together.

We have Jared Kushner to thank for the push for drug enforcement reform, and I hope he also is able to put forward some other sane ideas.
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that he lies to everyone else but won't lie to them.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.97caf3a814bc
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