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Old 09-07-2012, 10:09 AM   #1
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This is astonishing......the corruption of the Obama Administration is amazing.

This is what corny government looks like; be afraid, be very afraid. If they can do this to Gallup, Fender, and other big companies, think how they will crush anyone smaller.



Justice Dept. Gallup lawsuit came after Axelrod criticized pollsters
Published: 1:45 AM 09/06/2012

By Matthew Boyle

Internal emails between senior officials at The Gallup Organization, obtained by The Daily Caller, show senior Obama campaign adviser David Axelrod attempting to subtly intimidate the respected polling firm when its numbers were unfavorable to the president.

After Gallup declined to change its polling methodology, Obama’s Department of Justice hit it with an unrelated lawsuit that appears damning on its face.

TheDC is withholding the identities of the Gallup officials to protect them from potential retaliation from Obama’s campaign and his administration. (SEE ALSO: DOJ still hasn’t served Gallup with lawsuit)

In April, Axelrod tweeted that a poll showing Mitt Romney with a 48-43 percent lead over Obama was “saddled with some methodological problems,” directing his Twitter followers to read a National Journal story criticizing Gallup polls showing a Romney lead.

In that National Journal piece, Ron Brownstein wrote that the polls showing Romney leading the president had “a sample that looks much more like the electorate in 2010 than the voting population that is likely to turn out in 2012.”

Internally, Gallup officials discussed via email how to respond Axelrod’s accusations. One suggested that it “seems like a pretty good time for a blog response,” and named a potential writer.

In response to that suggestion, another senior Gallup official wrote — in an email chain titled “Axelrod vs. Gallup” — that the White House “has asked” a senior Gallup staffer “to come over and explain our methodology too.”

That Gallup official, the email continued, “has a plan that includes blogging and telling WH [the White House] he would love to have them come over here etc. This could be a very good moment for us to [show] our super rigorous methods compared to weak samples etc.”

The writer named several news organizations with their own polling methodologies, all of which resulted in numbers more favorable to President Obama at the time.

In response to that email, a third senior Gallup official said he thought Axelrod’s pressure “sounds a little like a Godfather situation.”

“Imagine Axel[rod] with Brando’s voice: ‘[Name redacted], I’d like you to come over and explain your methodology… You got a nice poll there… would be a shame if anything happened to it…’”

In a second email chain titled “slanderous link about Gallup methodology,” another senior Gallup official noted that a Washington Examiner story on Axelrod’s anti-Gallup tweet was “on [the] Drudge [Report] right now,” before writing that the episode was “[s]o politically motivated, it’s laughable.”

“As they say in b-ball: he’s trying to work the refs,” that official wrote to other senior Gallup staffers. “What a joke. Axel’s had a bad week. He got in the middle of the Ann Romney thing. Then said the country is going in the wrong direction. (Oops!) Now he’s swinging at us.”

The emails directly contradict what Axelrod’s fellow Obama campaign adviser Robert Gibbs told The Washington Times’ Kerry Picket this week about the campaign’s dealings with Gallup. Picket reported that Gibbs said he was unaware of any communications between the Obama campaign and Gallup.

“I was the press secretary for two years. I know and it was really smart not to get involved in discussing things around the Justice Department that I have no knowledge about,” Gibbs said at the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte on Tuesday. “I have no knowledge of any discussions of anybody on the campaign side with Gallup.”

In August, Justice signed on to a suit Lindley filed in 2009. Lindley alleged, according to The Associated Press, that Gallup filed false claims with the federal government on contracts it had with the State Department, the U.S. Mint and other federal agencies.

A senior Gallup official told TheDC Lindley left Gallup on July 24, 2009, after working there since Feb. 25, 2008.

Lindley made his allegations under seal after leaving his Gallup job. A senior Gallup official told TheDC that the Justice Department began investigating the allegations in October 2009 and served the company with subpoenas in February or March 2010. Gallup, the source said, provided the government with about three terabytes of data responsive to those subpoenas.

Gallup, the source continued, did not hear from the Justice Department again for approximately one-and-a-half years.

“We did not have a substantive discussion about what they had subpoenaed until Fall of 2011,” the Gallup official told TheDC. “And the meeting came at our request, a request that had been outstanding from the time we were served [with the subpoenas].”

Lindley was a field organizer in Council Bluffs, Iowa, for then-Sen. Obama’s 2008 run for president before joining Gallup, a fact omitted from the DOJ’s legal filings and from most press accounts.

Gallup has been a thorn in Obama’s re-election efforts since it began to publish polling numbers showing Romney leading the incumbent Democrat. The polling organization has also, according to the American Thinker blog, published employment data which, unlike numbers from Obama’s Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), does not set aside statistics which are not politically helpful to the president.

“Gallup publishes its research without seasonal adjustments,” William Tate wrote for the American Thinker. ”The BLS’s version applies adjustments in an alchemic formula that’s more mysterious than the Shroud of Turin.”

Right before Obama’s Justice Department joined Lindley’s lawsuit against Gallup in August, the polling firm published numbers showing Romney with a slight lead over Obama — at 47 percent to 45 percent — in its daily presidential tracking poll.

Lindley’s attorneys, along with spokespersons from the Obama campaign and the Justice Department, have not responded to requests for comment.


http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/06/ju...d-pollsters/2/
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:22 AM   #2
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Does anything surprise us about this DOJ anymore? It is the most corrupt department in the most corrupt administration in history.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:45 AM   #3
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Does anything surprise us about this DOJ anymore? It is the most corrupt department in the most corrupt administration in history.

in your opinion or do you have a list of emperical data that proves that comment?
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:47 AM   #4
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I've been detailing that for months on here. Go back and read.
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:48 AM   #5
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I realize that Teapublicans are always using chain emails to denigrate Democrats but seriously using one of those "specially-worded" serial emails as the basis for a story on a blog is beyond believable.

Will the Teapublican morons here EVER stop looking for absurd conspiracy theories to bash the Dems?

Don't bother to answer.

I'm still waiting to hear how Obama's parents conceived and carried out the Presidential takeover all those years ago.

LMAO!
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:00 PM   #6
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I've been detailing that for months on here. Go back and read.

let me take your typical stance on a comment like that .. Prove it

never mind, you cant and typically never can.
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Old 09-07-2012, 01:10 PM   #7
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CBJ7, I'm not playing that game with you. You have commented on all the threads I am referring to. You know Holder is corrupt, you just refuse to see it, because you are 100% Obatomized. Now go play, and let the adults discuss things.
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CBJ7, I'm not playing that game with you. You have commented on all the threads I am referring to. You know Holder is corrupt, you just refuse to see it, because you are 100% Obatomized. Now go play, and let the adults discuss things.

like I said .......


anyway an Issa parrot like you actuallly believes hes an adult?

who knew
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anyway an Issa parrot like you actuallly believes hes an adult?

who knew
EXACTLY, CJ7!

Issa is a lying thug with a freaking "rap sheet" who is trying to privatize the Postal Service and give it to his corporate buddies.

COF is being paid either by Karl Rove or the National Endowment for Cretins.
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Old 09-07-2012, 02:52 PM   #10
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let the adults discuss things.
Please excuse StupidOldFart while he exits the room so that the rest of us can have an intelligent, adult conversation.

SOF, be sure to drop in every couple of months to see how well the adults are getting along without you.

Ok adults, we can carry on now!!!!!
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Old 09-07-2012, 11:28 PM   #11
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Take your complaints to Gibson Guitar.
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screw 'em they cut my tree down..
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:41 AM   #13
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The presidential polls have about a ten to twelve point range in assessing the race. That's too much of a range to be accounted for by legitimate differences of opinion regarding methodology.

Most of the polls are rigged in favor of Obama. The worst I've seen is Pew Research, that recently had Obama over Romney by ten points. Pew was able to get the inflated number by sampling twice as many Democrats as Republicans and by using registered voters instead of likely voters. Pew was assuming a Democrat voter turnout at a substantially higher level than 2008. That assumption is clearly not consistant with other polls that show Democrat enthusiasm to be far below the Obamamania of 2008.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Obama administration has already affected poll results, with actions behind the scenes, that we will never know about.
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The presidential polls have about a ten to twelve point range in assessing the race. That's too much of a range to be accounted for by legitimate differences of opinion regarding methodology.

Most of the polls are rigged in favor of Obama. The worst I've seen is Pew Research, that recently had Obama over Romney by ten points. Pew was able to get the inflated number by sampling twice as many Democrats as Republicans and by using registered voters instead of likely voters. Pew was assuming a Democrat voter turnout at a substantially higher level than 2008. That assumption is clearly not consistant with other polls that show Democrat enthusiasm to be far below the Obamamania of 2008.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Obama administration has already affected poll results, with actions behind the scenes, that we will never know about.

and the best youve seen is the poll you posted that had Romney over Obie 15 points isnt it?

dont give us your skewed poll bullshit pal ... aint nobody buying it
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CJ doesn't have the mental capacity to perform critical thinking skills; he thinks all polls are created equal.
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