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Old 10-24-2012, 03:06 PM   #31
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Hell yea. I love paying the gasoline tax.
Yeah me too, I can only use Premium due to the Supercharger. But it gets me around all the initentive drivers on their cell phone not paying attention. They wake up though when I boost up, lol.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:28 PM   #32
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chances are all you turbo guys will really like Willard ... he increased the gasoline delivery tax X4 when he was the Govie...
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:02 PM   #33
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What kind of model car do you drive.

I drive a Dodge , before that drove the GMC. Will never buy another car made overseas.

I started buying Amercian again after reading Friedmans book, "The World is Flat".

Being educated is the way we come out on top in this new competive world, not by joining the military and fighting wars for companies that want to aquire resources that way. Or by working for companies in the business of war who promote war mongering.
Dodge, before that a Dodge, and before that a Dodge, but it all started with a '63 Chevy Bel Air, though through the years a Ford, a Mercury and another Chevrolet were thrown in there too.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:10 PM   #34
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All things being equal--or almost equal--I would prefer to buy something that is US built and owned.

But when I have bought cars all things have not been equal.

1St car was a Chevy Nova and got 25 good years out of it. Thought I would be happy with GM products forever. My second car was an Olds, and it is hard to decide if the car or the service was a bigger piece of shit. I had GM accuse me of fraud and warrentee violations because the car had MULTIPLE axils break, wireing harnesses burn out, and front ends go out. To say nothing of a transmission replacement. All in 50K of not very stressing driving.

I'll consider a Ford, but so far they have not had the car that fits my requirements. Last 3 were 2 Subarus and a Nissan. Each wasily reached 200,000 miles, gave me no problems, and the customer relations were awesome. If I felt I could get similar service, quality, and product I'd gladly buy an American car next.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:34 PM   #35
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Old T I have about 125k on a GMC Denali. Sucks gas worse than COG does Gary Johnson weenie though, other than that and some front end work and one motor mount that has been a good deal.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:40 PM   #36
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Glad it's worked for you. And while I know not all GM cars are lemons, and the assholes I had to deal with are likely gone/retired, the bad taste lingers.

Never said I was always logical.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:32 PM   #37
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I go through quite a few cars with most being fleet vehicles (great work perk). All of the fleet vehicles I have driven through the years had an American nameplate. I adhere to the same standard for my personal vehicles.

My current fleet vehicle is a Ford Taurus and it is (thus far) my favorite of the work cars. Prior to that I had a Chrysler 300. Prior to the Chrysler 300, I had 4 Chevy Impala fleet cars and 1 Chevy Malibu. I currently own a Chevy Silverado (I love a pick up truck although I rarely get to drive it) and a Chevy Impala.

I typically keep a fleet vehicle until it has 100-120k miles and then I turn it in for a new one. The Chrysler 300 notwithstanding, I have had very few mechanical problems with any of the vehicles I have driven over the past 20-25 years. I wouldn't consider the Chrysler 300 to be a lemon but it was my least dependable. It is not a coincidence that the 300 was my least favorite of all of the vehicles I have driven during the past 25 years or so!

To the greatest degree possible, I always try to Buy American! That is especially true of the vehicles I drive.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:12 PM   #38
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Why does CJ7 keep making some snarky political comment?
FYI, Romney didn't raise any taxes. His state house did and they had more than enough votes to override any veto. Better that Romney got something from the deal.
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Old 10-24-2012, 11:37 PM   #39
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Porsche & Mercedes.
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:46 AM   #40
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Why does CJ7 keep making some snarky political comment?
FYI, Romney didn't raise any taxes. His state house did and they had more than enough votes to override any veto. Better that Romney got something from the deal.


the buck stops there...
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