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Old 03-07-2024, 05:02 PM   #1
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Default President Bill Clinton’s 1995 Speech On Illegal Immigration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IrDrBs13oA

Take a moment and listen to it.

Keep in mind. Clinton is a Democrat. Things sure have changed.
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Old 03-08-2024, 02:37 PM   #2
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Legendary Democrat Barbara Jordan strongly opposed illegal immigration as did the pioneer agricultural activist Ceasar Chavez.
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Old 03-08-2024, 02:52 PM   #3
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"Diversity will either be our greatest strength or it will destroy us".

Bill was right. America is being destroyed by diversity.
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Old 03-09-2024, 12:21 AM   #4
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Why are you claiming that quote is by Bill Clinton?
Bill was right about a lot of things but he never said that.
He was very pro-border security but you couldn't leave it at that. You had to add a lie.
Another typical trumpy bullshit claim.

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"Diversity will either be our greatest strength or it will destroy us".

Bill was right. America is being destroyed by diversity.
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:02 AM   #5
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Default You're blaming people not the PARTY...ideology Chinese Mao

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mao-Zedong

Bernie..(Weekend at Bernies comes to mind)

Bernard Sanders September 8, 1941 New York City, U.S.
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Other political affiliations Democratic (2015–2016, 2019–2020) Vermont Progressive (1981–present) Liberty Union (1970–1977

This a HUGE problem.
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:43 AM   #6
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So which banned guy are you and what the fuck are you talking about?

The only person I blamed was the guy who lied about a quote. Which tells me you're a banned trumpy because it doesn't bother you he lied about what somebody said.

But you are part right. It is a party issue. The repubs have no problems with habitual liars.

Since you're "new" here, it's time for you to get back on topic and stop trying to hijack jackie's thread.

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https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mao-Zedong

Bernie..(Weekend at Bernies comes to mind)

Bernard Sanders September 8, 1941 New York City, U.S.
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This a HUGE problem.
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Old 03-09-2024, 01:53 AM   #7
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So which banned guy are you and what the fuck are you talking about?

The only person I blamed was the guy who lied about a quote. Which tells me you're a banned trumpy because it doesn't bother you he lied about what somebody said.

But you are part right. It is a party issue. The repubs have no problems with habitual liars.

Since you're "new" here, it's time for you to get back on topic and stop trying to hijack jackie's thread.

if yo say so
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Old 03-09-2024, 03:41 AM   #8
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"Diversity will either be our greatest strength or it will destroy us".

Bill was right. America is being destroyed by diversity.
You’re right people’s irrational hatred of diversity is destroying America.
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Old 03-09-2024, 06:13 AM   #9
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Diversity for the sake of diversity is retarded, as is homogeny. Groups and individuals will naturally gravitate to where their own interests and talents lie, the huge over representation of Indians in the medical field for example. Artificially seeding certain groups into certain societal functions isn’t advantageous to that society or to the individuals being seeded.
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Old 03-09-2024, 10:29 AM   #10
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Bill Clinton did embrace border security and believed in a well funded police force can't agree with everything he did but I would like to see much more of those ideals within the current Democratic party leadership.

Clinton's efforts to create balanced budgets and promote economic growth should have become a blueprint for the party to build on but that is not what happened.

Currently the Republican party is taking a similar approach they will tolerate and even promote Trump because he is seen as being able to beat Biden but a decade after this election they will not embrace the lessons he tried to teach them on similar issues.

On the issue of diversity it is quite convenient today to argue everything is just fine. That means you are not currently part of any targeted or otherwise unrepresented minorities. It does not mean that we have achieved diversity via natural evolution and progress.

I would gladly vote for another Bill Clinton if the Democratic party had any ability to get that person on a ballot. What passes for a candidate in 2028 on both sides could be such a joke it will make Biden look like an upgrade.

Bill Clinton got it. Border security. Legal hiring practices. Following the law. These are not party issues they are American issues. Fact is from his terms until today Democrats have done as much or more to secure border security as Republicans. None had achieved very much but at least it was a priority.
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Old 03-09-2024, 10:29 AM   #11
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diversity of background can, indeed, be a strength. Yet, within that diversity of origine there must also be a unity of purpose and aection.


as a child of the 1950s and '60s, I watched a plethora of
ww-II movies.

Granted, Hollywood tends to oversimplify and stereotype about everything, but one theme often raped in those films was the diversity of the US
GI as an infantry unit, and their united purpose in defeating the enemy in either theater of wat.

Typically, there was some guy from the streets of Brooklyn New York, a Polish guy (always called "Skee"), an academic or professional, drafted just short of his PhD degree or medical school, and a guy from an obscure farming community in the American hinterland. Their differences conflicted at times, but also reinforced or supported each other's character.

They had differences and drama, but in the end always came together to defeat the true enemies of civilization.

Diversity is not a bad thing in and of itself. No, diversity of background can be a very good thing in a society . . . but there must also be some form of unity or that society will dissolve on those differences.
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