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Old 10-30-2018, 03:21 PM   #1
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Default US president tweets that illegal foreigners ‘infest’ the country – a term employed by Goebbels ahead of the Final Solution

Don't complain that people pick on Trump. Don't complain like him that he's being unfairly treated.

He knows exactly what he's saying when he says it.

And so do we.

So as you continue to bash the coming "invasion" the "illegal horde" and spread fear about how these "invaders" are coming to spread disease and deplete our resources, remember that our nation's leader's words have been uttered before.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/critic...zi-propaganda/

Critics say Trump’s talk of immigrants ‘infesting’ US recalls Nazi propaganda
US president tweets that illegal foreigners ‘infest’ the country – a term employed by Goebbels ahead of the Final Solution

By TOI STAFF and AP

US President Donald Trump on Tuesday defended his administration’s immigration policy and the forced separation of children from their parents at the US-Mexico border with language that critics said was reminiscent of the Nazi anti-Semitic propaganda that preceded the murder of six million Jews.

Worried that the lack of progress on his signature border wall will make him look “soft,” according to one adviser, Trump unleashed a series of tweets playing up the dangers posed by members of the MS-13 gang, which make up a minuscule percentage of those who cross the border. In one tweet, he used the loaded term “infest” to reference the influx of immigrants entering the country illegally.

Social commentators pointed out that history has shown, particularly before and during the Holocaust, that “infest” — a term almost exclusively used to describe vermin — dehumanizes a population and is often a precursor to murder or genocide.

“Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13,” the president tweeted. “They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!”

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Democrats are the problem. They don’t care about crime and want illegal immigrants, no matter how bad they may be, to pour into and infest our Country, like MS-13. They can’t win on their terrible policies, so they view them as potential voters!
One of the most notorious anti-Semitic films produced by Nazi Germany’s Ministry of Propaganda was “Der ewige Jude” (“The Eternal Jew”), with input from propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels.

The US Holocaust Memorial Museum says that “One of the film’s most notorious sequences compares Jews to rats that carry contagion, flood the continent, and devour precious resources.”

The museum’s website explains that the film ends with Adolf Hitler’s infamous speech to the Reichstag on January 30, 1939, in which he warned of the “annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe.”

According to the museum, “The speech appeared to herald a radicalization of the solution to the ‘Jewish Question’ in the coming ‘Final Solution,’ and provided a foreshadowing of mass murder.”

Many commentators on Twitter said there was the alarming connection between Trump’s choice of language and Nazi Germany.

Neo-conservative Bill Kristol, founder of “The Weekly Standard,” tweeted that “Trump’s statement that immigrants will ‘infest our Country’ probably sounds better in the original German.”

Journalist Eric Boehlert wrote, “If this isn’t a direct quote from Mein Kampf, it’s pretty close.”

“‘Infest’ is language used in Nazi propaganda to describe the ‘infestation’ of Jews in Germany, who were compared to rats,” writer Rob Sheridan posted. “Here’s the President of the United States saying illegal immigrants ‘infest’ our country. Keep telling me those Nazi comparisons are unfair.”

Republican lawmakers, increasingly fearful of a voter backlash in November, met with Trump for about an hour at the Capitol to try to find a solution that both holds to Trump’s hardline immigration policy and ends the practice of taking migrant children from parents charged with entering the country illegally. Many lawmakers say Trump could simply reverse the administration’s “zero tolerance” policy and keep families together.

While Trump held firm to his tough immigration stance in an earlier appearance Tuesday, he acknowledged during the closed-door meeting that the coverage of family separations is taking a toll. Trump said his daughter, Ivanka, had told him the situation with the families looks bad, one lawmaker said.

Under the administration’s current policy, all unlawful crossings are referred for prosecution — a process that moves adults to the custody of the US Marshals Service and sends many children to facilities run by the Department of Health and Human Services. Under the Obama administration, such families were usually referred for civil deportation proceedings, not requiring separation.

More than 2,300 minors were separated from their families at the border from May 5 through June 9, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

Trump has been watching the TV coverage with increasing anger, telling confidants he believes media outlets are deliberately highlighting the worst images — the cages and screaming toddlers — to make him look bad
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Old 10-30-2018, 05:05 PM   #2
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Pulling out the old "Nazi Card" is pretty lame.

Why not just say he is using the old "VGER" card from Star Trek the Motion Picture......."Carbon Units are Infesting Earth".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxAaVqdz_Vk

"Trump is worse than Stalin, Worse than Hitler, Worse than Mussolini,......HE'S VGER"!!!!

It's no less plausible than playing the old "Nazi Card".
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Old 10-30-2018, 05:24 PM   #3
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Lots of talk about "invaders" around the interwebs. Even right here in this august forum.

Let's not lose sight of what those folks are really saying and how others perceive those words.

Not playing a card.

Reminding all of history.

Interesting read, btw.
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Old 10-30-2018, 05:25 PM   #4
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And we have more Nazi analagies. Really pathetic. But at least no more Nazi memes. You have to look at the silver lining.
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:55 PM   #5
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the media lost the argument when they started using hitler and nazis.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:08 PM   #6
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the media lost the argument when they started using hitler and nazis.
So did YR
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Old 10-30-2018, 11:03 PM   #7
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I thought the country was infested with deplorables.
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Old 10-31-2018, 08:18 AM   #8
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Funny how the NAZI card is used , Did people forget the meaning National People Socialist (sometimes workers) Party .
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Old 10-31-2018, 08:31 AM   #9
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What’s your point, Rex? That Hitler called his party National Socialists somehow means it’s the same as today’s American liberals?

Is that your point?
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Funny how the NAZI card is used , Did people forget the meaning National People Socialist (sometimes workers) Party .
A socialist comes into your house and takes all your money.

A Nazi comes into your house and takes all your money and then hits you over the head on his way out.
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:39 AM   #12
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the Nazi's black shirt and brown shirt troops were a take on the dimocrats white robed kkk

the Nazi euthanasia ideas were learned from Margaret sanger

the Nazi Nuremberg laws found their genesis in the jim crow laws of the dimocrats

the lynching's of blacks and white republicans by the dimocrats taught the Nazi's when they were implementing their final solution
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:42 AM   #13
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The Left uses the "Nazi" allusion to hypocritically cast it on Trump and conservatives dedicated to real freedom of speech.

It is the socialist Left and their AntiFa troops who use mob threat and violence to prevent freedom of speech to anyone not of their ideology.

Socialists will use violence as well.

In my opinion, they have much more in common with AntiFa troops and Brownshirts from history than they will admit.

They would love to stifle me for voicing my opinion - particularly on the left and east coasts.

Laugh at them - the best remedy.
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Old 10-31-2018, 09:47 AM   #14
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Your pronouncements have any basis in fact or truth. Just name calling, alt-right equivocation and lies.

After all if Trump’s regime was the great protector of free speech, then why are hate crimes on the rise??? Increased freedom?

Apparently, you don’t really care (or study) what happened before the rise of this evil. (Can we calm it evil? Seems to be a word used so liberally by the Trump loyalists)

And THIS:

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How about - Arbeit macht frei? Liberals can go to work and set themselves free! Oh wait - they don't work...hmmmm
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