The ACA for 2018- What To Expect

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

The reason the subsidy is needed is because the government is asking the health insurance companies to sell health insurance policies to people "WHO ARE ALREADY SICK". This alone is driving up cost for a health insurance company to conduct business. So, prior to 2010 before the ACA became law, health insurance companies simply did not sell health insurance to people with pre-existing conditions or people who were already sick in the Individual market.

The ACA is doing what it is suppose to do, get more people insured. Premium spikes that we have seen in some states will level off as the risk pools become more balanced.

when will u admit that it's not doing what it was supposed to do? self-fund by compelling by IRS fine everyone of age to get health insurance? why are the Gov subsidized exchanges such money losing deals that all (well to be fair most) of the major players have gotten out of them???

not once in all your bloviating about how great ACA is supposed to be, have you explained that point. idiot.

The ACA is not collapsing under its own weight. Health insurance companies filed there rate increases with the commissioner of insurance for each state that they plan to do business in. In 2017 there was at least one provider in every county of the USA. Each state had more that one health insurance provider.

it's collapsing under the weight of a socialist single-player black hole. idiot. socialist. dumbfuck.

Last thing, the Obamacare plans sold on the Government Exchange is "REAL INSURANCE" and is accepted at good hospitals like Children's Hospital in Houston, Texas. (One of the best hospitals in the state)

so like ... do u even have ACA? bahaha. i don't i have an employer policy. so like ... why do i even care about it?

bahhahahaaaaa

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by the_real_Barleycorn

So 10 milion more people got health insurance than before. At what cost? Bilions of dollars? Tens of billions? Hundreds of billions? How much does that come out to per person?

US Population Count as of 11/3/17 - 325,246,840 (based on United Nations Estimates)

Cost of ACA (Obamacare private plan subsidies and expanded Medicaid in 31 states) 800 billion over a 10 year period. (based on estimates by CBO)

Cost per person = 800,000,000,000 / 325,246,840 = $2,459.67

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

so like ... do u even have ACA? bahaha. i don't i have an employer policy. so like ... why do i even care about it?

bahhahahaaaaa

Where do you want people who already sick to get their health insurance from? Dumb hillbilly fuck.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

US Population Count as of 11/3/17 - 325,246,840 (based on United Nations Estimates)

Cost of ACA (Obamacare private plan subsidies and expanded Medicaid in 31 states) 800 billion over a 10 year period. (based on estimates by CBO)

Cost per person = 800,000,000,000 / 325,246,840 = $2,459.67

per whom person? everyone? or just the ACA GOV socialist welfare recipients?

if it was that cheap .. your numbers .. bahhahaaaa

2,459.67 (correct me if i'm wrong but is this your "estimate" ) so is this your calculated monthly for anyone with non-workplace insurance?

204.92 a month. full coverage, medical, prescriptions, dental, vision? is that what you posted??

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Where do you want people who already sick to get their health insurance from? Dumb hillbilly fuck.

keep reading idiot. it's for U just some pesky math numbers .. do try to keep up. bahaha

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

per whom person? everyone? or just the ACA GOV socialist welfare recipients?

if it was that cheap .. your numbers .. bahhahaaaa

2,459.67 (correct me if i'm wrong but is this your "estimate" ) so is this your calculated monthly for anyone with non-workplace insurance?

204.92 a month. full coverage, medical, prescriptions, dental, vision? is that what you posted??

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

per whom person? everyone? or just the ACA GOV socialist welfare recipients?

if it was that cheap .. your numbers .. bahhahaaaa

2,459.67 (correct me if i'm wrong but is this your "estimate" ) so is this your calculated monthly for anyone with non-workplace insurance?

204.92 a month. full coverage, medical, prescriptions, dental, vision? is that what you posted??

JD's original question is how much is it costing each citizen to have the ACA law implemented. The ACA law is costing each citizen aprox $2,459.67 over a 10 year period. OR

The ACA law is costing each citizen apox $245.97 per year.

JD's question is not about insurance coverage.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Where do you want people who already sick to get their health insurance from? Dumb hillbilly fuck.

only now, at the end, do you realize, young socialist, the TRUE POWER OF CAPITALISM!!!




bahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

only now, at the end, do you realize, young socialist, the TRUE POWER OF CAPITALISM!!!

In the USA the means of production is not controlled by the state, therefore the Socialist label simply does not apply.

Your hero Bush43 signed into law Medicare Part D, which has taxpayers helping seniors pay for their prescriptions. Using your logic is Bush43 a socialist?

Last but not least, two of your favorite people Kim Kardashian and Kanye West just sold one of their homes for $18 million dollars. So how could the USA be socialist?

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

JD's original question is how much is it costing each citizen to have the ACA law implemented. The ACA law is costing each citizen aprox $2,459.67 over a 10 year period. OR

The ACA law is costing each citizen apox $245.97 per year.

JD's question is not about insurance coverage.

so yer fucktard socialist ass is saying what???????


the extra to cover this bullshit is $245.97 per year.?? To me ... so you say that by basic math i;m only paying $20 a month for .. welfare bums and freeloaders to have insurance?? is that what u are saying??

oh and let's mention that Obama made it a CRIME by IRS fine (tax codes issues are a crime if u didn't know) and u still get nada young enrolls.

WHY IS THAT FAGGER??

how does the math work out here???

HOW!!!!

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

the extra to cover this bullshit is $245.97 per year.?? To me ... so you say that by basic math i;m only paying $20 a month for .. welfare bums and freeloaders to have insurance?? is that what u are saying??


how does the math work out here???

HOW!!!!

That's about right Hillbilly. Each citizen is paying about $20 a month for 10 years so that 6 million people will get a subsidy on the government exchange and another 10 million people will get the expanded Medicaid.

Note: the bums and the people who don't work are taken care of by Original Medicaid, which was signed into law by LBJ in 1965. Original Medicaid is not a part of the calculation for the question JD asked. You got all this now Hillbilly?

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

That's about right Hillbilly. Each citizen is paying about $20 a month for 10 years so that 6 million people will get a subsidy on the government exchange and another 10 million people will get the expanded Medicaid.

Note: the bums and the people who don't work are taken care of by Original Medicaid, which was signed into law by LBJ in 1965. Original Medicaid is not a part of the calculation for the question JD asked. You got all this now Hillbilly?

where do you come up with those numbers?

its no where near what I'v read of other people's insurance cost.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

where do you come up with those numbers?

its no where near what I'v read of other people's insurance cost.

I explained where the numbers came from in post #32. The calculation is the cost per person to fund the cost of the ACA law which is $800 billion over 10 years. (estimate from CBO 2010 projections).

It is not a calculation of how much each health insurance policy cost for the 16 million people who received some type of subsidy from the Federal Government to get their coverage.

Remember if you are a family of 4 and your income is > $94,000 you do not get a subsidy you pay out of pocket. Same goes if you are single and your income > $48,000.

[IIFFOFRDB]

Explain this frghty65...

https://conservativetribune.com/obam...ddleclass/amp/

“Policy of the People”- 80% of Obamacare Mandate Paid by Sub $50K Households

Barack Obama ran as a hero for the common American, promising “hope and change” for the nation’s downtrodden.

It’s no surprise that his signature legislation, Obamacare, was also marketed as an amazing benefit for the middle class and poor Americans.

However, a new report reveals that Obama’s true legacy should actually be taking money out of the pockets of average Americans in one of the rawest deals since Bernie Madoff.

According to Forbes contributor Ryan Ellis, the individual mandate that is at the center of Obamacare actually hits working-class families the hardest.

“The mandate is a tax which punishes those who can least afford it,” Ellis wrote.

TRENDING: “Policy of the People”- 80% of Obamacare Mandate Paid by Sub $50K Households

He looked at the breakdown of who actually pays the individual mandate surtax, which is the penalty that kicks in if a person doesn’t purchase government-approved health insurance. What he found was shocking.

“According to the IRS, some 6.7 million American families pay Obamacare’s individual mandate surtax, forking over $3 billion annually to Uncle Sam merely for exercising their right not to purchase an unaffordable Obamacare plan,” Ellis wrote.

“It turns out most of these taxpayers are solidly in the middle class. The great majority of them (80 percent) actually make less than $50,000 per year. This is perhaps the most regressive tax we have on the books today.”

Around 5.3 million Americans who earn under $50,000 annually were forced to pay the mandate penalty, which averaged about $340 per person.

Yes, average citizens are being charged hundreds of dollars for the right to not buy expensive insurance. So much for the “Affordable” Care Act.

Sen. Steve Daines, a Montana Republican, did a similar analysis of the numbers, and came to the same conclusion: Individuals and families making under $50,000 are the ones being burdened by the mandate.

What would happen if the mandate and its penalties were dissolved? Contrary to the doom and gloom spread by Obamacare’s proponents, the sky probably wouldn’t fall.

“Ending the individual mandate surtax will not cause anyone to lose their health insurance,” Ellis argued. “It will merely stop punishing people who choose not to buy expensive insurance with a surtax they cannot afford, either.”

RELATED: Report: Congress Wouldn’t Act, So Now Trump’s Prepping Exec Order on Obamacare

During the push to pass Obamacare, Democrats and Obama himself waved away the penalty or surtax as something that middle-class people didn’t need to worry about.

That penalty, they insisted, would be for rich Americans who were wealthy enough to cover their medical expenses out of pocket, or who wanted some exotic insurance plan that didn’t meet the Obamacare requirements.

Like so much — dare we say all? — of Obamacare, the promises turned out to be lies. It was snake oil sold by Democrats who were desperate for a political win.

Nobody disputes that America’s health care system can be improved, but Obamacare was not the way.

Like so much of his agenda, Obama’s Obamacare legacy is falling apart.

H/T Breitbart

Please press “Share on Facebook” to help spread these eye-opening facts about the Affordable Care Act!

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB

Explain this frghty65...

https://conservativetribune.com/obam...ddleclass/amp/

“Policy of the People”- 80% of Obamacare Mandate Paid by Sub $50K Households

Is this suppose to be a gotcha question, IFFY? Let's recap what your post is saying. Basically, people who earn less than $50,000 have to pay a $340 tax/fine per person if they choose not get health insurance.

What your article fails to mention is that people who make $50,000 are eligible to get a large subsidy from the government to help pay their premium in the individual market. After the subsidy is applied the cost of your premium for year is about the same as the amount of the tax.

Consider this example. A family of two that makes $50,000 will get a subsidy of $420 dollars. Using this Michigan zip code of 48083 there are a couple of plans that will have the monthly premium of $60 after the government subsidy is applied. In this example the premium for the year is $720. According to your article the tax for not having health insurance is $340 per person or $680 for a married couple. The policy premium for the year is only $40 more than the tax. The government is helping people in this income range. For an extra $40 you can have a "real health insurance policy" from a company like BCBS. Everything stated can be backed up at ehealthinsurance.com.



https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/ehi/rc/all-plans

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Is this suppose to be a gotcha question, IFFY? Let's recap what your post is saying. Basically, people who earn less than $50,000 have to pay a $340 tax/fine per person if they choose not get health insurance.

What your article fails to mention is that people who make $50,000 are eligible to get a large subsidy from the government to help pay their premium in the individual market. After the subsidy is applied the cost of your premium for year is about the same as the amount of the tax.

Consider this example. A family of two that makes $50,000 will get a subsidy of $420 dollars. Using this Michigan zip code of 48083 there are a couple of plans that will have the monthly premium of $60 after the government subsidy is applied. In this example the premium for the year is $720. According to your article the tax for not having health insurance is $340 per person or $680 for a married couple. The policy premium for the year is only $40 more than the tax. The government is helping people in this income range. For an extra $40 you can have a "real health insurance policy" from a company like BCBS. Everything stated can be backed up at ehealthinsurance.com.



https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/ehi/rc/all-plans

blah blah. didn't read one word.


just tell me now .. why didn't those prime demographics .. 25 to mid 30 .. SIGN UP????



you never address that .. fagger65.

WHY?