Rush Limbaugh: Do you realize it may well be the Democrat primary race is over?

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Biden is not the ideal candidate some think.. so what he is way ahead now? means nothing.. what means something is his frazzled speech, his arrogance, and the fact that other than Nixon, no similarly losing candidate ever made a comeback of the sort Biden would need, politically.. he is long in the tooth, and Democrats want new and more leftist blood.

Chung Tran, I think you've got the hots for Kamala Harris and it's making you prejudiced. You're going to knock anyone who's ahead of her. I can relate, I would have banged Margaret Thatcher in her prime in a heart beat.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

If it is Uncle Joe, all he needs to do is flip Penn, Michigan and Wisconsin back to blue. These are three states that Obama won twice and Hillary lost. Hillary did not campaign that much, if at all in these states. These three states are up for grabs. If the democrat flips these three states and wins the same 230 electoral college votes that Hillary got, that would be enough to go over 270 and win the election. Don't forget uncle Joe is from Penn, he should really focus on Michigan and Wisconsin, if he gets the nomination.

No two presidential elections have been the same each cycle. your belief in Biden as your anointed one is laughable. This election will not play out exactly like 2016 simply because it's a new game.

Joe has no game for this. The Demonrats will brand him an old fossil and "Bernie" him.

Biden's sense of ego is almost as big as Trump's. Biden thincks he can stand up to the "Bully" Trump. let's say Biden does make to the general election. If he tries to challenge Trump he'll get crushed.

So Bring on Creepy Joe!

MAGA 20202!

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

No two presidential elections have been the same each cycle. your belief in Biden as your anointed one is laughable.

I did not anoint Biden. Rush may have, but I didn't. I wrote if it is Biden. No two elections may not be the same, but Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn are known as "swing states" and could swing back to blue in the next election. The 230 electoral college votes that Hillary did get are from "Blue" states that the Democrat typically wins. Think about it, despite Ben Gazi and the emails Hillary still got 230 college votes. The question for the democrat in the next election will be can he or she flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn back to blue. If he or she does Trump will be a one term president.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

I did not anoint Biden. Rush may have, but I didn't. I wrote if it is Biden. No two elections may not be the same, but Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn are known as "swing states" and could swing back to blue in the next election. The 230 electoral college votes that Hillary did get are from "Blue" states that the Democrat typically wins. Think about it, despite Ben Gazi and the emails Hillary still got 230 college votes. The question for the democrat in the next election will be can he or she flip Michigan, Wisconsin and Penn back to blue. If he or she does Trump will be a one term president.

if it's Biden you need to move to Canada because Trump will bitch slap that old punk.

You can't accept the fact that Trump won, so clearly you can't accept the fact that he is going to be even harder to beat now as a sitting President with the full might of the RNC behind him.

you do recall that Trump got no help from the RNC in 2016 and that they will back him 100% this time, yeah?

what's your platform to attack Trump on? How he destroyed the Economy? the market collapse? the Mueller nothing burger?

What ya got? How would you campaign against Trump? maybe Biden posts here in secret? he might get a few points from an expert.

admit it. you hate Trump so badly that you thinck his presidency is vulnerable to a bunch of leftist radicals and one old turd.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

[bb1961]

I believe the REAL wild card is the start of the FISA warrant investigation and multiple indictment and convictions that will follow.
All these crimes come to light and it will be a cake walk.
The House can only run interference for so long...

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

if it's Biden you need to move to Canada because Trump will bitch slap that old punk.

You can't accept the fact that Trump won, so clearly you can't accept the fact that he is going to be even harder to beat now as a sitting President with the full might of the RNC behind him.

you do recall that Trump got no help from the RNC in 2016 and that they will back him 100% this time, yeah?

what's your platform to attack Trump on? How he destroyed the Economy? the market collapse? the Mueller nothing burger?

What ya got? How would you campaign against Trump? maybe Biden posts here in secret? he might get a few points from an expert.

admit it. you hate Trump so badly that you thinck his presidency is vulnerable to a bunch of leftist radicals and one old turd.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

You continue to forget that there are 3 key issues on the minds of voters -- health care, immigration, and the economy. Many people have benefited from the economy under Trump and many have not. We've been through that already. Trump has done zero on health care and his plans to address the issue prior to the 2020 elections were rejected by his own party. Immigration? Trump has asked for billions to do something about those at the border looking to enter the country but has done nothing to address the continuing caravans from Central America. This will be a major issue going into the 2020 campaign.

And how are those tariffs working out? Annual impact on a family of 4 -- $2389.

https://tradepartnership.com/wp-cont...tudy-FINAL.pdf

"Are Trump’s Tariffs Bolstering the U.S. Economy? Nope"

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/u...a-economy.html

"In an interview with Fox News on Sunday, Mr Kudlow admitted that it was American businesses that paid the tariffs on any goods brought in from China, and that US consumers would also foot the bill if firms passed on the cost increase."

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48246821

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Biden is not the ideal candidate some think.. so what he is way ahead now? means nothing.. what means something is his frazzled speech, his arrogance, and the fact that other than Nixon, no similarly losing candidate ever made a comeback of the sort Biden would need, politically.. he is long in the tooth, and Democrats want new and more leftist blood. Bob Dole looked good on paper, he got his ass handed to him. Mondale, same. long-time politicians who fit the suit, but nobody would energize for. who REALLY wants Biden? a few Corporate Donors, but few real voting people. what Biden's big lead tells me, is no other candidate has emerged, so Biden is the fall back position.. for now.. means nothing. Sanders had some momentum, that Biden stopped for now. but Biden will not last.. his lead will be gone by August.

I think it is an accurate portrayal of Biden. He, and many others, do have an age issue.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by friendly fred

I think it is an accurate portrayal of Biden. He, and many others, do have an age issue.

I agree with much of what Chung Tran said but "long in the tooth". He is only 4 years older than Trump and LOOKS a lot healthier in my opinion. Certainly a younger candidate would be a better option but I look at Biden as a one-term guy who will pass the baton on to someone else in 2024 should he be elected in 2020.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Tiny

In recent polls, Biden is pulling ahead of the pack. Almost 3X as many Democrats would pick him as the next highest candidate, Bernie Sanders,

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...tion-6730.html

Rush Limbaugh is predicting Biden will face Trump in the general election:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/lim...eading-the-way

Like Trump, he's trying to find a silver lining. Limbaugh's is that some Bernie Sanders supporters will vote for Trump. Fat chance. They might stay home but they won't vote for Trump.

Biden is going to be a lot harder to beat than Hillary Clinton, and Hillary Clinton won the majority of the popular vote.

Trump supporters can't bank on the economy, which may not be so peachy come November of 2020. While economists don't think Trump's tariffs will markedly hurt people here, they said the same thing the last time Republicans supported a trade war, in 1930. That didn't turn out so well.

I think it's all hilarious. Two OLD WHITE GUYS leading the pack for the Democratic Party. One of them uses Wealth Inequality, Democratic Socialism as a political stance and his wealth puts him in the 1%, how did he get there? It's really a big fucking joke what the Democratic Party has running for President.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

most of the time the front-runner early on does not get the nomination. Trump cast aside that trend last time. He was the front-runner the moment he declared and was never seriously challenged.

huh?

Trump was not even close to being the front runner when he declared. Rubio, Bush, Cruz all had big leads over Trump. what Trump did was surgically eliminate each front runner.. it wasn't until Indiana that Trump was ahead to the point of inevitability. that was not long before the Convention.

Originally Posted by Tiny

Chung Tran, I think you've got the hots for Kamala Harris and it's making you prejudiced. You're going to knock anyone who's ahead of her. I can relate, I would have banged Margaret Thatcher in her prime in a heart beat.

Ha! I do have a fondness for Kamala, but I'm trying to be realistic.. I think she is the best Female candidate, but too early to put her at the top of my list.

Originally Posted by bb1961

I believe the REAL wild card is the start of the FISA warrant investigation and multiple indictment and convictions that will follow.
All these crimes come to light and it will be a cake walk.
The House can only run interference for so long...

no.. there may be a little something on the FISA warrants, but you're dreaming if you think there is a scandal waiting to erupt, with major convictions. if Hillary slid through the bleached servers, Ben Gazi, and lots more, this FISA stuff will go no where.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

You continue to forget that there are 3 key issues on the minds of voters -- health care, immigration, and the economy. Many people have benefited from the economy under Trump and many have not. We've been through that already. Trump has done zero on health care and his plans to address the issue prior to the 2020 elections were rejected by his own party. Immigration? Trump has asked for billions to do something about those at the border looking to enter the country but has done nothing to address the continuing caravans from Central America. This will be a major issue going into the 2020 campaign.

And how are those tariffs working out? Annual impact on a family of 4 -- $2389.

https://tradepartnership.com/wp-cont...tudy-FINAL.pdf

"Are Trump’s Tariffs Bolstering the U.S. Economy? Nope"

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/07/u...a-economy.html

"In an interview with Fox News on Sunday, Mr Kudlow admitted that it was American businesses that paid the tariffs on any goods brought in from China, and that US consumers would also foot the bill if firms passed on the cost increase."

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48246821

yup. the market is getting killed this morning.. Trump isn't sure where he is going on China, no end game.. he is vulnerable if China doesn't fold to his requests, and so far they are winning the negotiations.. Trump is stuck, having campaigned on his negotiation skills. if China waits it out long enough, I suspect Trump will back down significantly, and he will look defeated. the 3.2% growth rate could be negative by the third quarter, if China doesn't back down.

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I agree with much of what Chung Tran said but "long in the tooth". He is only 4 years older than Trump and LOOKS a lot healthier in my opinion. Certainly a younger candidate would be a better option but I look at Biden as a one-term guy who will pass the baton on to someone else in 2024 should he be elected in 2020.

I think Trump looks a lot healthier.. Biden looks plastic, slurs on the stump, and has half the energy Trump has. in a one-on-one debate, Trump would make Biden look like a Fossil.

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

no.. there may be a little something on the FISA warrants, but you're dreaming if you think there is a scandal waiting to erupt, with major convictions. if Hillary slid through the bleached servers, Ben Gazi, and lots more, this FISA stuff will go no where.

Yeah...the left are "giving advice" to Trump if he wants to winner another term...just talk about the economy and shut up about everything else...Hummm
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/03/polit...iew/index.html
This circus in the House proves my point...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/28/u...peachment.html
They are making up shit as they go along.
Trump needs to release all the information on the gathering of the information for the FISA warrant
Yeah you're right Chung nothing here...what stinkin' scandal!!
FISA stuff will go nowhere...straight from the DNC...right Chung!!
https://aclj.org/government-corrupti...court-revealed

[Joey_Gleet]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Look at the four polls that have been done in those states. Biden's trouncing Trump. Admittedly though there's not much data and it's a long time to November 2020.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6861.html

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6849.html

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...iden-6761.html

And, we all know how reliable the polls were in 2016.

Trump would probably beat Bide-a-wee.

Harris vs Trump would be far more interesting. And, she's at least giving um, lip service to legalizing nookie rentals.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

Ha! I do have a fondness for Kamala, but I'm trying to be realistic.. I think she is the best Female candidate, but too early to put her at the top of my list.



no.. there may be a little something on the FISA warrants, but you're dreaming if you think there is a scandal waiting to erupt, with major convictions. if Hillary slid through the bleached servers, Ben Gazi, and lots more, this FISA stuff will go no where.

I believe Hooker Harris will outlast Pinocchio Joe, but hildebeest's email controversy isn't finished business. It's recently come to light that Odumbo, et al, were very much aware of hildebeest's use of an illegal server, and there was a concentrated effort by hildebeest and the Odumbo administration to circumvent lawful FOIA requests in violation of federal statutes -- a matter that's still very much under investigation.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

huh?

Trump was not even close to being the front runner when he declared. Rubio, Bush, Cruz all had big leads over Trump. what Trump did was surgically eliminate each front runner.. it wasn't until Indiana that Trump was ahead to the point of inevitability. that was not long before the Convention.

Uh yes he did immediately jump above Rubio, Bush and Cruz. Trump announced on June 16, 2015.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...tion-3823.html


scroll down to June 2015 and see who is ahead in the RNC race. Trump. He was never behind, certainly not by any large margin, less than any reasonable margin of error.



this is July 22 2015 less than a month after Trump declared.


https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/...onal_72215.pdf


Note that most of the links to various polls fail now. it's been awhile yeah?


no.. there may be a little something on the FISA warrants, but you're dreaming if you think there is a scandal waiting to erupt, with major convictions. if Hillary slid through the bleached servers, Ben Gazi, and lots more, this FISA stuff will go no where.

Clinton slid thru with a complete coverup by Obama and his DOJ. this is fact, friend. Guess who cannot cover for himself or Clinton now? Obama. Guess who is going to push it hard against the Demonrats? Trump.

yup. the market is getting killed this morning.. Trump isn't sure where he is going on China, no end game.. he is vulnerable if China doesn't fold to his requests, and so far they are winning the negotiations.. Trump is stuck, having campaigned on his negotiation skills. if China waits it out long enough, I suspect Trump will back down significantly, and he will look defeated. the 3.2% growth rate could be negative by the third quarter, if China doesn't back down.


I think Trump looks a lot healthier.. Biden looks plastic, slurs on the stump, and has half the energy Trump has. in a one-on-one debate, Trump would make Biden look like a Fossil.

Market analysts are projecting continued strong economic growth. show who thinks the same as you do on the markets and economy for the next year?

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Market analysts are projecting continued strong economic growth. show who thinks the same as you do on the markets and economy for the next year?

Is that still the case? For a case where the USA puts 25% tariffs on all Chinese imports, which is what Trump announced, and China responds in kind, I'm seeing estimates of a 0.5% to 1.0% decline in GDP versus where it would be otherwise, and a loss of up to 2 million jobs. For an all out trade war, where other countries are involved, you may be looking at 0% GDP growth, all other things being equal. Are these estimates any good? I have no idea, and don't want to find out.

Anyway, hopefully China and the USA will work this out. If not prospects for Trump and the Republican Party may not look so good in 2020.