Kraft case

[The_Waco_Kid]

Kraft bump!

he'll walk no evidence .. no crime

Court rules secret videos cannot be used in Robert Kraft case

https://sports.yahoo.com/court-rules...165207113.html

Secret massage parlor videos of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft cannot be used at trial, a Florida appeals court ruled Wednesday.
The 4th District Court of Appeal ruled law enforcement violated Kraft’s rights, which are protected by the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unreasonable searches and seizures.

The court said allowing the videos to be used “would yield unbridled discretion to agents of law enforcement and the government” regarding Fourth Amendment issues, according to the Associated Press.

“The type of law enforcement surveillance utilized in these cases is extreme. While there will be situations which may warrant the use of the techniques at issue, the strict Fourth Amendment safeguards developed over the past few decades must be observed,” the judges ruled.
“To permit otherwise would yield unbridled discretion to agents of law enforcement and the government, the antithesis of the constitutional liberty of people to be secure against unreasonable searches and seizures,” the court added.

Prosecutors are likely to appeal that ruling to the state Supreme Court, according to the AP.
Robert Kraft faces soliciting prostitution charge

Kraft, 79, was part of a sting aimed at breaking up a prostitution ring at massage parlors in Florida. Kraft was charged with two counts of solicitation in February 2019. As part of that operation, police secretly installed surveillance cameras in lobbies and rooms at the Orchids of Asia Day Spa. Police reportedly have footage of Kraft receiving oral sex at the spa.
Kraft’s attorneys and prosecutors have gone back and forth on whether the video will be released. Prosecutors have pushed for the video to be released, while Kraft’s attorneys have argued the video is “basically pornography.”
Police defend decision to film inside spa

State deputy solicitor general Jeffrey DeSousa argued police needed to obtain videos from inside the spa to charge its owners with felonies. DeSousa said police needed footage of massages in order to capture sex acts, and needed footage showing the owners received payments from the women who performed the sex acts.
DeSousa said the Kraft video should be permitted in court because it shows Kraft engaging in a crime, according to the AP.

DeSousa said even if the court finds police violated innocent customers’ privacy rights, the Supreme Court has ruled that in most circumstances, only improperly seized evidence should be thrown out. Since Kraft, the other men and the masseuses were engaged in crimes, their recordings should be permitted, he said.

Robert Kraft has avoided punishment from NFL

When the Kraft news broke, the NFL issued a statement it will handle the issue under the personnel conduct policy. The league said it had “a full understanding of the facts,” but wouldn’t interfere with the ongoing investigation.
The NFL has not punished Kraft yet. The league could do that depending on what happens in Kraft’s case.

[rexdutchman]

Yup and law suits from violation of 4 ad GOOD this is /was ALL POLITICO
Just likey the Russian crap Drip Drip its gonna come out

[HoeHummer]

WTF is a message parlor?

Is that Trump’s latest social media outlet?

LOLLING!!!

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Court rules secret videos cannot be used in Robert Kraft case


Secret massage parlor videos of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft cannot be used at trial, a Florida appeals court ruled Wednesday.
The 4th District Court of Appeal ruled law enforcement violated Kraft’s rights, which are protected by the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unreasonable searches and seizures.

The court said allowing the videos to be used “would yield unbridled discretion to agents of law enforcement and the government” regarding Fourth Amendment issues, according to the Associated Press..

there are probably many john's around who wish they had had that ruling

[gnadfly]

NFL Owners lives mat...er

Asian women lives matter!

[Kinkster90210]

Originally Posted by themystic

You get a couple of rich white assholes like Trump and Kraft and look what happens to the average hobbyist. The face of Eccie and similar internet sites were diminished under the Trump administration. The unwanted attention at Asian spas has taken a punch to. Thanks Trump and Kraft and the idiots who defend them

What kind of dipshit post is this?

What did Kraft ever do? He just got a massage like a million other men. He isn't a politician or a member of law enforcement.

And the internet sex sites started getting hammered years ago under Obama.

Backpage lost credit card processing in 2015 as banks were put under pressure by law enforcement. Obama was president in 2015.

And the adult section of Backpage was SHUT DOWN completely on Jan. 9, 2017. Obama was still President on that date.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpage

So, no, the state of Asian massage parlors is not Trump's fault.

Congress has been passing laws for about a decade now that slowly but surely has made on-line prostitution more difficult.

And, I have news for you. You and the other people on this website may not like that, but the vast majority of the public is OK with that. So, you have to learn to live in the real world.

I'm in favor of liberalizing prostitution laws, but I have learned to accept a balance in these things. it's pendulum and it swings back and forth.

I may think that women and men shouldn't be arrested for it. But by the same token, I don't want street walkers on the sidewalk outside my home. I like keeping up my real estate values as much as any Bible thumper or anti-sex work feminist.

I never visit Asian spas because they REEK of organized crime exploiting vulnerable women. By the same token, I like to visit the high-end escorts that look like models, live in expensive apartments, and run their own business - i.e. no pimps.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by HoeHummer

WTF is a message parlor?

Is that Trump’s latest social media outlet?

LOLLING!!!

It’s where Yssup Rider goes to get the elbow deep treatment!!!

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=21713

[Tsmokies]

No surprise! after all it is Florida where the rich n famous walk away from slam dump crimes. You would think an old ultra rich white man could do better than a massage pallor and could afford a lady pimp

[rexdutchman]

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[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Kinkster90210

What kind of dipshit post is this?

What did Kraft ever do? He just got a massage like a million other men. He isn't a politician or a member of law enforcement.

And the internet sex sites started getting hammered years ago under Obama.

Backpage lost credit card processing in 2015 as banks were put under pressure by law enforcement. Obama was president in 2015.

And the adult section of Backpage was SHUT DOWN completely on Jan. 9, 2017. Obama was still President on that date.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpage

So, no, the state of Asian massage parlors is not Trump's fault.

Congress has been passing laws for about a decade now that slowly but surely has made on-line prostitution more difficult.

And, I have news for you. You and the other people on this website may not like that, but the vast majority of the public is OK with that. So, you have to learn to live in the real world.

I'm in favor of liberalizing prostitution laws, but I have learned to accept a balance in these things. it's pendulum and it swings back and forth.

I may think that women and men shouldn't be arrested for it. But by the same token, I don't want street walkers on the sidewalk outside my home. I like keeping up my real estate values as much as any Bible thumper or anti-sex work feminist.

I never visit Asian spas because they REEK of organized crime exploiting vulnerable women. By the same token, I like to visit the high-end escorts that look like models, live in expensive apartments, and run their own business - i.e. no pimps.

the only reek in an amp is the smell of sex and money. and high dollar perfume.

you really think these amp's are mafia run? the Korean mafia?

remember that when you pay some "high-end" indy hooker for sex you are just as illegal as i am when i go AMPing. of course no indy's have pimps, right?

as our absent fellow AMPer Chung Tran will tell you .. all this media hype is just that. these girls know exactly the game they are getting into as most were already in the biz in Asia. in Asia especially Japan they turn them out at 25 for younger girls. so they end up here. with their passports and free to come and go as they please. no one is forcing them into the biz.

one of the media "talking points" when they bust some AMPs to "prove" trafficking is plane tickets paid for by the biz. it doesn't mean shit about inter-state trafficking. these girls have contacts with AMPs and when they want to move on to a new city it's common for the mamasan to pay up front for their plane ticket, which the girls pay back. it's a perk, nothing more.

they also make sure to post some photo of the girl's break room where they sleep and chill out when not working. they claim this is "proof" they are kept there against their will. Bullshit!

they stay there because it's cheaper than renting a motel and cabs back and forth. and if you know anything about Asian culture and i do .. having traveled to Asia many times .. it's common for Asians to share a room. partly because the cost of apartments is high and it's pat of the culture to do so.

nothing sinister about it.

Originally Posted by gnadfly

NFL Owners lives mat...er

Asian women lives matter!

does that include the Asians that WTF, Yssup Hummer and Kinkster think get snatched off the streets of Soeul, thrown into gunny sacks and stowed away in the cargo hold of a 747 then dragged off to be chained to bedposts at AMP's against their will?