I love overnight visits, but good ones are so hard to find

[Gotyour6]

Originally Posted by Claire She Blows

There are a dozen reasons why she left early, and only one of them being that she took something. Stomach issues, for one. Nothing makes me panic faster than feeling the tummy rumble and knowing that things are about to go sideways. Or maybe you said something that reminded her of someone else (and not in a good way). Or a BF at home. Kids. Pets. It could've been any number of things. Or, you know, she could just be a hooker on something (*eye roll*).

The odds of a hooker on something and the odds of them needing to go home because of family or stomach troubles i will think took something every time.

Why? Because they are hookers.

[gentlemantoo]

The reason she left seems unimportant, what is paramount is that she did not fulfill her obligation. She was paid and she was not wanting to be where she was. Desrciption fits the mold of taking something. Not saying she did, but realistically how many of these ladies are free of those issues, not toow many.

Vitamin, well put together post. I have never paid for friendship. These ladies pretend and act just like in this thread. She pretended to enjoy Riverwalk, and the guy, but.If she did enjoy, most likely would not leave before her obligation was done. Nor leave in manner she did, no explanation, no I will hook you up another time. While the OP had fun, she did not. That is how most to very nearly all paid sessions are. She wants the cash, not you. So why pay more than necessary, because you want to believe she cares, likes you, or enjoys her sex with you. She does not. I never had to pay a woman that wanted me.

[VegasJen]

Originally Posted by Vitamin

Old T you contradict yourself, on one hand you say these women would not see you if you did not pay them, but on the other hand you claim you are friends or have a connection with these women. Do you pay your friends/family $200+ hr to hang out with them? You are paying them to be your friends, so how is that a friendship? If you are looking to fill a loneliness void, escorts cannot fill that void. I don't understand why someone would pay someone to be their friend? Friendships are valuable because your friends care about you. When you pay someone to be your friend that person pretending to be your friend does not really care about you, which defeats the purpose of paying that person to be your friend. And paying someone to sleep, do I really need to explain that? I'm not saying a paid friendship could never turn into a real friendship somewhere down the line, but let's be real, this is a very rare situation. You do mention that some ladies will spend more time with you than you have paid for so therefore these are friendships and you are not being delusional. I don't agree with this logic either. You are still paying for friendship, just at a lower hourly rate. If you have to pay them to be your friend then they are not your friend, it's pretty simple.

So... a not so hypothetical scenario: Say a lady on this board finds someone's posts so intriguing that she drops a note to thank him for his inspiring contributions. This begins a chain of communication where they become friends and eventually meet up for a day of coffee and hiking in the mountains, for example. No hanky panky, no fee, not even any $$ spent on the days activities (aside from coffee...) Both have a great time, the friendship remains for years afterwards, yet no intimate time is ever booked. Based on the replies I am reading this cannot be possible because we are escorts???

[Wakeup]

Originally Posted by Smpslt7

I like to think of myself as a devout atheist. 😊

That's perfectly fine...

[buggs]

I have spoken with he and she said that she feels really bad about leaving early. Something about her kids and what not, I am not going to share those details hear.

The incident was really not the intent of this post. It was really just to talk about the overnights in general. Getting the right girl and that you need to be prepared for things to change,

I am not mad - I would meet this girl again. She was fun...

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by Vitamin

Old T you contradict yourself, on one hand you say these women would not see you if you did not pay them, but on the other hand you claim you are friends or have a connection with these women.

Actually, what I said was:

"Do they stop coming around when I stop paying? Most? Absolutely--as I would expect. Some, no. I am still friends with several retired ladies and when I am in their area we often go out or I am invited over for dinner at her house."
Somestop. Somedo not. No contradicion there at all.

As to your other point, i have several friends i also do business with:
--My barber and I have baskeball season tickets, and go to dinner before games. But i still pay for my haircuts.
--My long time financial advisor and I share a number of interests and will occasionally go to a nice restaurant, or go away to the same mountain resort. But I pay for his financial services.
--My sister is also my dictor, but i pay her for medical services.

The same with ladies in this business. I am paying them for their profrssional services, not the other time. And as i clearly stated, the ones who are indeed friends DO stay in touch long after i have stopped paying. It is not really hard to read what i said.

[gimme_that]

Overnights have been my preferred booking since the first time I did this. I always opt to do first time overnights because im honest, confident, and know i can mesh well with most ladies. I don't need a practice session to build bodily confidence in a woman not sure of her capabilities.......thought we was seeing professionals here! Amatuers need practice......I'd prefer the top notch hoe's.

I talk beforehand on the type of experience i seek as she should be honest on the type of meet she offers. The sole purpose for me is to have a mutual fuckfest for a night...........with all the other attributes playing a far second. All she needs is physical capability and we can go from there. The other stuff is nice but if she cant fuck long and well I wont see! inimum ladies only require you having the money and being safe. some may be concernewd about physical appearance and size.....but most just want to know you have a degree of personability and not boring but more importantly money. one short phone call can solve that.

u let that lady take advantage of u by the way
stop paying first. I've gladly paid ladies for the percentage of time they could stay before an unforseen newfound emergency on her part during our booked time frame when they try to leave early. most want all the money and not a percentage...so i tell them to fulfill their obligation and fulfill all their time.


..but girls love to play sick...........any little advantage to see if they can play you.

and u want to see her again
.......who was this? I don't want.to see the wrong hoe in san antonio lol

[Vitamin]

Originally Posted by VegasJen

So... a not so hypothetical scenario: Say a lady on this board finds someone's posts so intriguing that she drops a note to thank him for his inspiring contributions. This begins a chain of communication where they become friends and eventually meet up for a day of coffee and hiking in the mountains, for example. No hanky panky, no fee, not even any $$ spent on the days activities (aside from coffee...) Both have a great time, the friendship remains for years afterwards, yet no intimate time is ever booked. Based on the replies I am reading this cannot be possible because we are escorts???

I never said it was impossible for escorts and clients to become friends. I even admit that a paid friendship could become a real friendship, anything is possible. The only argument I make is that paid friendship is not real friendship.

[Vitamin]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Actually, what I said was:

"Do they stop coming around when I stop paying? Most? Absolutely--as I would expect. Some, no. I am still friends with several retired ladies and when I am in their area we often go out or I am invited over for dinner at her house."
Somestop. Somedo not. No contradicion there at all.

Ok, I agree that there is no contradiction if you are only claiming friendship with the ones that do not require compensation.

As to your other point, i have several friends i also do business with:
--My barber and I have baskeball season tickets, and go to dinner before games. But i still pay for my haircuts.
--My long time financial advisor and I share a number of interests and will occasionally go to a nice restaurant, or go away to the same mountain resort. But I pay for his financial services.
--My sister is also my dictor, but i pay her for medical services.

My argument is not that you can't be friends with ppl you do business with, my argument is that paid friendship is not real friendship. The situations you give above are not analogous to paying for overnight stays because you are not paying those ppl to be your friend. Your barber is paid to cut your hair, you don't pay your barber to hang out with you, so therefore your friendship with your barber is a real friendship, your not delusional about your friendship with your barber. With overnight stays you are not only paying the escort for sex but also for her to be your friend and for her to sleep. So if you are claiming you are friends or you have a connection with this woman you are paying for an overnight stay then you are delusional.

The same with ladies in this business. I am paying them for their profrssional services, not the other time. And as i clearly stated, the ones who are indeed friends DO stay in touch long after i have stopped paying. It is not really hard to read what i said.

Their professional services include sex and companionship. With an overnight stay you can't claim you are just paying for sex, you are also paying for friendship.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by Vitamin

Their professional services include sex and companionship. With an overnight stay you can't claim you are just paying for sex, you are also paying for friendship.

I completely agree with you that in a few cases, relationships that start as business transactions can become real friendships. That is the fundamental point I was trying to make. After that, do your bookkeeping however you wish.

If a lady charges $300 an hour, I arrange for 3 hours, pay her $900, and she decides to stay 12 hours instead.
--your accounting says I paid her $75 an hour for 12 hours
--mine says I paid $300 an hour for 3 hours, and nothing for 9

Personally I don't care to argue whose accounting rules are correct. It doesn't matter to me. I am fairly confident that the lady voluntarily chose to spend time with me that she did not have to, which leads me to believe she might actually enjoy my company--unlike Gentleman's perspective that they all hate their clients and can't wait to leave. That is really my point.

I know what some of my relationships have become over time. Whether he believes it or not--or how you do your accounting--doesn't change that. I am content with the relationships with those few ladies. Reading G's posts, I really doubt he is.

[gentlemantoo]

Wow, now that is a load of crap. Providers choose to stay with you an additional 9 hours for free??? Talk about delusional!

I have had meals off the clock with providers, gone out, all that stuff, not delusional thinking it is because we are friends. I have money and they know it, good business for her to attempt to entice or seduce me. She makes more.dlars or so she thinks. One lady told me it was her job to get sorry old men to be infatuated with her. She makes more money and they are easy because usually just one pop. So, you think she likes you and you start to pay her.more and more and she just counts the stacks of cash and comes to my place while we laugh at you and how you are manipulated.

I have a small and limited exposure, but the ladies I know would never spend 9 hours for free with any client unless it pays her in the long run.

How many guys out there get overnights for free after a session? Speak up please as maybe I am wrong. And the ladies I speak with lie to me. So, hobbyists how many free overnights did you have in 2017 so far? I think Old-T is not so honest.

[Guest022718]

Originally Posted by gentlemantoo

Wow, now that is a load of crap. Providers choose to stay with you an additional 9 hours for free??? Talk about delusional!

I have had meals off the clock with providers, gone out, all that stuff, not delusional thinking it is because we are friends. I have money and they know it, good business for her to attempt to entice or seduce me. She makes more.dlars or so she thinks. One lady told me it was her job to get sorry old men to be infatuated with her. She makes more money and they are easy because usually just one pop. So, you think she likes you and you start to pay her.more and more and she just counts the stacks of cash and comes to my place while we laugh at you and how you are manipulated.

I have a small and limited exposure, but the ladies I know would never spend 9 hours for free with any client unless it pays her in the long run.

How many guys out there get overnights for free after a session? Speak up please as maybe I am wrong. And the ladies I speak with lie to me. So, hobbyists how many free overnights did you have in 2017 so far? I think Old-T is not so honest.

"Everybody has an angle."
Bob Wallace (Bing Crosby): White Christmas (1954)


As you can see, your universal truth has been around a long time. But, for some reason, your posts make me feel especially sad. I'm so sorry for you.

Not that I don't understand that the ladies are running a business, and we as their clients are their source of income, and so they will do whatever they can for a lucrative "contract." I understand that. I do it myself.

Not that I don't understand that....as "jobs"....some clients are more desireable than others because they are "easier", more "pleasant", or make money faster. I do understand that. I seek those kinds of jobs myself.

No, your posts seem calculated to accentuate a general trend on this board: mutual distrust and disrespect between provider and client. To wit: "One lady told me it was her job to get sorry old men to be infatuated with her. She makes more money and they are easy because usually just one pop."

You see, that is probably an accurate description of me. I'm in my early 60s. Not nice to look at. Not well endowed. I'm only good for for one shot in a 1 or 2 hour session. And I tend to make return visits to providers I like.

Did YOU throw in the adjective "sorry" in your description of me? Or did the provider you were speaking with use it? This is an important question, because I'm not sure if I should feel sorry for you, her, or the both of you.

Throughout life, we will encounter people who are different from us. We can choose how we react to them. I choose to accept them as different, and neither look down upon them or hold them in contempt. This, I believe, is why I am fairly happy in life.

Although I lack looks, or sexual prowess, I have a pretty good brain. This allows me to earn more money than about 91% of my fellow men. This is a trade-off I will take any time. Because of this, I am able to have sexual adventures far, far above what most people would expect by looking at me.

Do I begrudge the fact that I am an "easy job" for a provider? Why should I? My purpose for being in her presence is not to make her "work hard." It is to have a sexual encounter with a pretty woman. Also, her opinion of me is not my responsibilty. I will treat her with respect, of course, and try to be as presentable as possible....but if I do these things and she still thinks I'm a chump.....that is on her, not me, and I feel sorry for her.

This thread was started by the OP to discover how to get a good overnight session. They can be found. Old T describes it maybe as friendship. Others as chemistry. And I believe you have to have seen a provider a few times to know if that is there. But I would simply call it mutual respect.

My ATF, who the hell knows what she thinks of me when I'm gone? But during our time together, she is so patient with me, and intent on my happiness, that she is frequently able to entice pop number 2 out of me in a two hour session. And let me tell you....in the "hooker world" that would be considered hard work! To me, that at least shows respect for me as a client. In the wee hours of the morning, when we are all at our most vulnerable, can I hope their IS friendship behind her treatment of me as a client???

Yeah. You know how us sorry old men are. But when the smoke clears, it is a moot point whether she feels friendly towards me, or is simply an outstanding professional plying her trade with great skill. I am going to be happy, sated, and content. And she is going to walk away with the price of the session in her pocket.

Why be so bitter about this outcome?

[yitzchak]

Originally Posted by gentlemantoo

One lady told me it was her job to get sorry old men to be infatuated with her. She makes more money and they are easy because usually just one pop. So, you think she likes you and you start to pay her.more and more and she just counts the stacks of cash and comes to my place while we laugh at you and how you are manipulated.

I totally tried to become that guy. It was my dream to become that guy, except I'm not old, and I don't have a lot of money ... god damnit.

[Danielle Reid]

Sorry she bailed on you and I'm sure you'll find the right fit. A lot of ladies offer overnights as a regular menu item.

One issue for me personally, I don't like to be "chatted up". If you want to get to know me, then book an hour date...even a half hour if you don't want to throw real cash. But please, do NOT blow up a provider's inbox with "tell me about yourself" emails and random back and forth messages. Some girls love it, some will blacklist you. Believe it or not, we do get paid for our time, even if that time is spent with our legs open.

[gt27]

Originally Posted by Danielle Reid

Sorry she bailed on you and I'm sure you'll find the right fit. A lot of ladies offer overnights as a regular menu item.

One issue for me personally, I don't like to be "chatted up". If you want to get to know me, then book an hour date...even a half hour if you don't want to throw real cash. But please, do NOT blow up a provider's inbox with "tell me about yourself" emails and random back and forth messages. Some girls love it, some will blacklist you. Believe it or not, we do get paid for our time, even if that time is spent with our legs open.

Yeah, that type of attitude breeds the gentlemantoo attitude. You're pretty, but a shit attitude can ruin any chance of having an overnight. Maybe you get a lot of guys that want to know your personality from a 30 min. thing, IDK. BUT this guy was traveling and looking for an overnight. What was he supposed to do; book you for a half hour session in hopes of overnighting you in a future trip that may never happen? It sounds like you shouldn't be offering overnights given the whole "don't chat me up" thing, or only offering overnights for long time clients. Either way, your post sounds jaded.

Anyways, it almost sounds like a panic attack hit her with the way she shut down. I get that the cynic takes over on these types of relationships but I don't get the whole "she's a hooker, thus it must be drugs" attitude. I mean, it wasn't like she was acting that way the whole night and panic attacks can hit you very fast and very hard. Just a thought.