Over Seas Hobbying

[scottish]

A bit late joining this discussion, but if you can afford the time and money, there is nothing to beat Pattaya Thailand. My favorite in this location is Devils Den https://devilsdenthailand.com/escorts-profiles/ You can see my reviews of one of my visits in my profile.

The place has changed a lot as a result of COVID, but its still a great place for endless fun.

[BLM69]

Pattaya has endless fun for Men

[Pangolier]

Originally Posted by scottish

A bit late joining this discussion, but if you can afford the time and money, there is nothing to beat Pattaya Thailand. My favorite in this location is Devils Den https://devilsdenthailand.com/escorts-profiles/ You can see my reviews of one of my visits in my profile.

The place has changed a lot as a result of COVID, but its still a great place for endless fun.

Money tends to be the issue. If plane tickets to Thailand cost $1,000 - what's the point of doing that when you can get similar quality in your backyard for $800 minus the lodging and ground transport expense? That's just adding the inconvenience of days of travel time. I could see the point on that end of if happen to be visiting as a matter of coincidence.

[johnj5888]

Anyone been to DRNigthts in the last year? reviewing the website i find most of the pictured ladies are very old. i asked about in and get little response if anything at all. In the fine print they say they only take pictures of the ladies when they first start due to cost and only if they have changed will they update them. Also in the print a week before your trip they will send you an updated picture of the lady you have selected.

[KosherCowboy]

Originally Posted by Pangolier

Money tends to be the issue. If plane tickets to Thailand cost $1,000 - what's the point of doing that when you can get similar quality in your backyard for $800 minus the lodging and ground transport expense? That's just adding the inconvenience of days of travel time. I could see the point on that end of if happen to be visiting as a matter of coincidence.

This is a great point you make ( and you are correct $-wise) if/ when one evaluates thru the glasses of costs only; in theory if I stayed home the last 15 days ( just got back from GER last night) I COULD have fucked 1X per day here if I balanced QV/HH/HR but instead I fucked 2-3X per day w girls who are much prettier, are half the age, half the weight in a legal environment ( mandatory testing too) and all day long hang out w the local EU guys and enjoy much that GER has to offer outside of sex. One adopts another home, learns another language, eats food that is actually better than our overpriced corporate crap here simply better living. FWIW guys always talk about Latinas, Asians, etc. but men need to enjoy the middle eastern girls; the forgotten ethnicity because these girls are just so much fun and let's say put out a lot more than any others they make others look prude and make the AMerican girls look like the Virgin Mary w their unopened toys still in the plastic package.

I've tought myself basic German, enjoy their holidays, their X-mas markets, their drinks we do not have, food that we can't get here, Thermalbads which we do not have could go on and on. And dreams really do come true if you work at it and know the right people to hook you up which means locals/club regulars/girls not tourists. One girl I saw 3X this trip ( she was my goal this trip) has ' visuals' out there getting gangbanged and splattered by EU guys and looks like over 2 million+ have witnessed it as well now and for 50 Euros I added some American DNA in there. Her cousin ( a regular in another club) hooked me up w her as the que is long and she rejects 90% of the guys. Now for the next four weeks I can watch her ( her FB and Tik Toks as well) and know I too properly injekted her w DNA and will fill again and even though I filled her ( 2017 and 2018) prior to these visuals she made seeing her after the visuals makes it all the better for my twisted mind!

Going abroad for Pu$$y is far from all about the costs per fuck but it is one way to look at it if one is only cost driven not ' fantasy and fun' driven. IMO for those on a time constraint or budget or simply who can't get away for long times simply go to MX City or GDL etc; from TX it IS our backyard!!

[Pangolier]

Originally Posted by KosherCowboy

This is a great point you make ( and you are correct $-wise) if/ when one evaluates thru the glasses of costs only; in theory if I stayed home the last 15 days ( just got back from GER last night) I COULD have fucked 1X per day here if I balanced QV/HH/HR but instead I fucked 2-3X per day w girls who are much prettier, are half the age, half the weight in a legal environment ( mandatory testing too) and all day long hang out w the local EU guys and enjoy much that GER has to offer outside of sex. One adopts another home, learns another language, eats food that is actually better than our overpriced corporate crap here simply better living. FWIW guys always talk about Latinas, Asians, etc. but men need to enjoy the middle eastern girls; the forgotten ethnicity because these girls are just so much fun and let's say put out a lot more than any others they make others look prude and make the AMerican girls look like the Virgin Mary w their unopened toys still in the plastic package.

I've tought myself basic German, enjoy their holidays, their X-mas markets, their drinks we do not have, food that we can't get here, Thermalbads which we do not have could go on and on. And dreams really do come true if you work at it and know the right people to hook you up which means locals/club regulars/girls not tourists. One girl I saw 3X this trip ( she was my goal this trip) has ' visuals' out there getting gangbanged and splattered by EU guys and looks like over 2 million+ have witnessed it as well now and for 50 Euros I added some American DNA in there. Her cousin ( a regular in another club) hooked me up w her as the que is long and she rejects 90% of the guys. Now for the next four weeks I can watch her ( her FB and Tik Toks as well) and know I too properly injekted her w DNA and will fill again and even though I filled her ( 2017 and 2018) prior to these visuals she made seeing her after the visuals makes it all the better for my twisted mind!

Going abroad for Pu$$y is far from all about the costs per fuck but it is one way to look at it if one is only cost driven not ' fantasy and fun' driven. IMO for those on a time constraint or budget or simply who can't get away for long times simply go to MX City or GDL etc; from TX it IS our backyard!!

I haven't checked the price of plane tickets to Thailand, but I'm willing to bet for most US cities there's a drastic difference in price of a ticket to Thailand, compared to Colombia or Costa Rica. On top of that I can definitively say that the length of the flight between the US and Asia is night and day compared to the US and South America, unless maybe you are flying from Oregon or Washington State, even then there's still a difference of at least a few hours. Germany is closer, but that's not the point. Most people won't be on these trips for 2 to 3 weeks+ unless they are an exceptionally wealthy retiree. Flying to South America for a weekend is practical, to Asia it is not. Taking a 3 week or 1 month trip once a year would leave someone deprived the remaining 11 months of the year unless they were seeing girls in this country.

[KosherCowboy]

AUS to Bangkok is roughly 30 hours; several TX guys I know who go to the EU and to Asia in lieu of this pain in the a$$ trip across the Pacific simply route the flight thru London, Frankfurt or Amsterdam and layover 1-2 days ( or more) and than it is 12 hours direct to Bangkok. Much easier on the body.

All comes down to money and time available; and of course what one likes. The balancing act that is tough is the more time/$ invested in Passport Pussy is less Pussy at home. Years ago we had better prices and much better quality than now it simply is not worth the $ for the ' product' here, no way. Luckily, I have a few on pay roll here that fuck me for $120 or less quickies so I can still get a room in every few days here ( saw one today) to fill in the gaps between the good stuff. I find the secret to eating Filet Mignon and lobster tails abroad is to when stateside simply learn to either 1) starve or 2) buy cheap peanut butter and jelly here to wet the whistle; this will finance the finer cuisines around the globe. If we 3) pay market here we get overpriced steaks/tails OR USDA Select cuts at best and reduce the total number of ' encounters' in all or the funds for overseas..

Option 2 works best for me.

[Pangolier]

Originally Posted by KosherCowboy

AUS to Bangkok is roughly 30 hours; several TX guys I know who go to the EU and to Asia in lieu of this pain in the a$$ trip across the Pacific simply route the flight thru London, Frankfurt or Amsterdam and layover 1-2 days ( or more) and than it is 12 hours direct to Bangkok. Much easier on the body.

All comes down to money and time available; and of course what one likes. The balancing act that is tough is the more time/$ invested in Passport Pussy is less Pussy at home. Years ago we had better prices and much better quality than now it simply is not worth the $ for the ' product' here, no way. Luckily, I have a few on pay roll here that fuck me for $120 or less quickies so I can still get a room in every few days here ( saw one today) to fill in the gaps between the good stuff. I find the secret to eating Filet Mignon and lobster tails abroad is to when stateside simply learn to either 1) starve or 2) buy cheap peanut butter and jelly here to wet the whistle; this will finance the finer cuisines around the globe. If we 3) pay market here we get overpriced steaks/tails OR USDA Select cuts at best and reduce the total number of ' encounters' in all or the funds for overseas..

Option 2 works best for me.

You are correct, and I actually did a calculator on this here on another forum in ECCIE. But mine revolves around going to South America, which is much closer, not to EU or Asia. Think about all the guys who are working conventional jobs, and most of them have families. Now, that doesn't apply to me as I'm not married and don't work a traditional job, but what about everyone else? Who all is going to be able to find an excuse to present to their boss and wife about why they are leaving the country for 2 weeks? What are they going to do, bring their wife with them and hope she and the kids are out on an rain forest tour while he is back at the hotel banging a native girl? It just doesn't work.


Now, if I want to go to Costa Rica or Colombia, I can leave on a Friday and come back on a Monday. Depending on what part of the country you are coming from, a flight to Costa Rica may be less than 3 hours away. You can't make a 10+ hour flight on a Friday, expect to have energy after the jet lag on Saturday, then plan to leave on Sunday for another 10 hour flight to arrive Monday for work, that's just silly. So I advocate the international route, just not to places that are as far away as Thailand. I mean if you live in Maine or maybe Boston, then a flight to Ireland is not terrible. Probably shorter than going from Seattle to Bogota.


South America is a trip I could take almost once a month if I wanted to, and I may actually wind up doing that. Even though I'm single and have no family or boss to answer to, it would still be a stretch for me to even think about committing to going to EU every other month, let alone Asia.


But yes, the domestic market has gone to total shit since covid hit. 2018 was an entirely different scene. There are still some thin and beautiful girls in this country, but expect to pay 700+ an hour to see them. Rarely do I do that anymore. I was seeing domestic providers on a regular basis when women of the same age and appearance were only 400 an hour. Times change...

[KosherCowboy]

Originally Posted by Pangolier

to South America, which is much closer, not to EU or Asia. Think about all the guys who are working conventional jobs, and most of them have families.

Now, if I want to go to Costa Rica or Colombia, I can leave on a Friday and come back on a Monday. I mean if you live in Maine or maybe Boston, then a flight to Ireland is not terrible.

South America is a trip I could take almost once a month if I wanted to, and I may actually wind up doing that.


But yes, the domestic market has gone to total shit since covid hit.

Yes, most folks can't just hop up and go to THAI for a month or travel to the EU etc. In those guys boats gotta find what is closest; those guys in the upper NY/NE states get Montreal, we get MX and C/S America except Montreal is much closer to them than those places are to us even here in TX. MX City would be ' our Montreal'.

If I were a TX guy w no time to commit to the EU than I would have even LESS incentive to pay these horrific options market prices; if booked at the right time direct to MX City is $400 or under the same cost of an hour here w a 42 year old, 5'2 160 pound flake. In MX City the Austin John could get a 24 year old girl, 5'2, 106 pounds just flips a few numbers and look at the brand new girl you get ! From ' Hefty to Hermosa!! '

If one is willing to make the effort, internal MX is a really great place to go for cheap and good service levels too; gotta do some work but these guys living in TX esp in San Antonio who are unable to go far away should be in MX as often as they can.

Sadly COVID impacted the scene here and worldwide; not one destination has fully recovered to pre-Pandemic levels not so sure if it will but all places beat this dead one way street which will get worse for the men. Much worse.

Happy travels

[Anonymous01]

Did somebody say Montreal? Best place in the Western Hemisphere! K.C., I'm with you, though - research and a trip to Germany and any red-blooded heterosexual male will say, "Nah.... " to local providers and save up for the next trip...


I'm saving up for an early summer trip to MTL, flying in and out of Manchester, NH on SW, rent a car and gas it up in Derby Line, VT (literally on the border) - avoid the price of flying in and out of Pierre Trudeau MTL and the cost of a rental car and gas in MTL.


The most difficult part is not telling the truth when crossing back into the US through customs - "You're from Texas? Why did you go to MTL?"



"To get properly blewed, screwed, and tatooed, Mr. Border Patrol / Customs Man." ????

[Mplay]

A few of my best experiences were in Ireland and the UK. Another was in Tokyo. Now I wouldn’t go to any of these places just to play. But if your into travel it’s nice to pick up a piece every now and then . All were cheaper considerably so than the US. Vancouver BC is also nice .

[Cavalier Gentleman]

My closest experience to a sex club was the appropriately named Paradise FKK in Stutgart about a decade ago. Had an afternoon to myself and walked in with a 69 euro entry fee. Changed into a robe and left clothes in locker. Walked out into a wide open area that had twice as many gorgeous ladies as gentlemen. Most of the ladies wore high heels, earrings, maybe a bracelet. Some had on a G string, but most were nude. It also had a bar and free buffet, so you could literally stay there all day. The open area downstairs had open floor to ceiling windows to a shower room with a bunch of showers, a sauna, a frigid room, a dungeon, and on and on. Upstairs were individual rooms where you could take the ladies for some privacy.

Had three encounters that afternoon, including a double with a couple of girls from Eastern Europe, anal with a hot German, and public sex with others watching with a hot tanned Spanish babe. All for 350 euros, including the beer from the bar (Czech Budweiser). In the states, those ladies would run about a kilobuck each in today's market.