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Old 12-19-2013, 10:57 AM   #1
Fiddy/Fiddy
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Question Are the US sites still running SP Lounges?

If anyone believed the Canadians are very friendly, they may have to rethink that if they ever decide to participate on a Canadian review board. It might be quite a shock.

I made an attempt to run my own review site earlier this year but decided to shut-it-down after the endless chaos of people bringing non-stop drama from other people's websites. It was difficult to get people to work together to build something new.

A lot issues actually came from the SP lounge. There were about a dozen SP's that decided to bring their personal wars from the other websites. They came in with expedition that we were responsible for solving problems and conflicts from SP Lounges on on other websites.

3 review sites and one advertising website all decided they had enough drama and all 3 shutdown their SP lounges. The admins of those sites felt it was impossible to get the situation under control and opted to do away with their SP Private Lounges rather than trying to resolve any of the issues between their advertising SP's.

The intention of the SP private forums are intended to provide a space for SP's to exchange safety information and references. The admins in Canada have difficult time keeping personal wars (disputes would be an understatement) from undermining the lounge. Groups of SP's would try to block other SP's from participating in the SP lounges. The outcome of those fights spanned across websites all across Canada.

Here's the questions I have:

- Do any of the sites in the US have SP private Lounge forums?
- Are the US sites having more success with managing their SP private forums? If so, what are the US sites doing differently to keep their SP Private Lounge forums running professionally and with minimal drama/chaos?
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Old 12-19-2013, 02:32 PM   #2
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Default TER has one, but they aren't actually in the US

They are hosted off shore, AFAIK there is very little moderation on TER anymore, so maybe the ladies police themselves. Maybe they can answer better...

We just saw a mod shut down a discussion on another board that got way off topic, a lady was posting under many handles, posing as a guy, trying to slam other ladies, and gathering info on competitors, so yeah, it does happen in the US...
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:52 PM   #3
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Three answers

We have them on this very site, and admittance to those areas are on a qualified basis
We have lady moderators that handle any messes in there
We have a very strong set of site guidelines that all members of the site agree to follow. When they don't we are forced to take action

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Some that deal with the specific issues you mentioned

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:22 PM   #4
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The problems we have Canada are due to Admins other group not really enforcing standards or providing special treatment to specific advertisers.

If they have someone they perceive as having higher credibility they provide them with special treatment under the rules even when their doing something wrong.

The outcome of "playing favorites" is pretty big mess that's hard to manage.

It's good to see your site is being very strict about it's rules. It's actually the cleanest and most well managed site I've seen in the US.
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