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Old 03-08-2017, 08:16 AM   #16
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fucking morons had 8 yrs and still can't figure the shit out. Obama was brilliant on creating his plan. Essentially, you remove or take out any of the main parts and it all falls apart. The Republicans are FUCKED.

Thanks Barack Hussein Obama
Obama didn't create the ACA. It was a moron named Grubber who created it. It's brand X bullshit.


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Old 03-08-2017, 08:42 AM   #17
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You don't think they'll hang him from a tree?
No, no of course not, Rider. Let's be reasonable here, k? Seriously...can't believe you'd be in support of lynching a former potus...shame on you, sir.

His crimes are not so egregious he should received the death penalty. 20 years behind bars should suffice.
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Old 03-10-2017, 12:01 AM   #18
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Yes thank you Muslim Obama for "being the fucking moron who had 8 years and couldn't figure the shit out" ..... Democrats get elected, they create the mess ..... Republicans get elected to fix the mess ..... it's a vicious cycle ..... which obviously would be best remedied by eliminating Democrats .....
Exactly
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Old 03-10-2017, 03:54 AM   #19
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No they won't hang Ohdummer from a tree ..... why risk ruining a perfectly good rope? .....
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Old 03-11-2017, 02:20 AM   #20
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Obama didn't create the ACA. It was a moron named Grubber who created it. It's brand X bullshit.


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on the bones of romneycare...
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Old 03-11-2017, 04:39 AM   #21
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Looks like the OP is falling apart at the seams. Same ole hate and dance. Nothing new here to see folks just another fool in the rain.
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Old 03-11-2017, 04:43 AM   #22
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Looks like the OP is falling apart at the seams. Same ole hate and dance. Nothing new here to see folks just another fool in the rain.
The 5th Amendment was crafted for the likes of SissyLips.
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Old 03-11-2017, 04:54 AM   #23
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You mean ZanaChapStick?
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No, he means Princess YUGE Twat!
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Old 03-11-2017, 08:31 AM   #25
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And Happy Taco day to you too Princess Tiny Meat.
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No, he means Princess YUGE Twat!
You're the biggest pussy here you Hitler worshiping, cock loving PIG.
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fucking morons had 8 yrs and still can't figure the shit out. Obama was brilliant on creating his plan. Essentially, you remove or take out any of the main parts and it all falls apart. The Republicans are FUCKED.

Thanks Barack Hussein Obama
you're strange.

you should be jumping for joy that Obamacare in some version is being retain in this republican version and that there is opposition from republican quarters over it.

alot of conservative republicans aren't in favor of the ryan plan.
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Old 03-11-2017, 08:53 PM   #28
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You have a point. Let a real debate play out.

It's an entitlement now, there may not be a good solution.


You know.... it would probably be less expensive to give free healthcare to those who only have pre-existing conditions and have free market competition for the rest of us.
1. The ACA and Medicare Part D (signed by Bush43) both cost $800 billion over 10 years. The ACA became political with the severe spikes in premium cost in certain states. Republicans do like the certain parts of the law, people with pre-existing conditions can't be denied coverage and children can stay on their parents plan up to age 26.

2. If you get your health insurance from your employer (and most of us do) that is free market, in the sense that the government is not helping you pay for your premium. The government does not control which doctors are in which networks, the health insurance companies control that.

3. In the individual market high risk people with pre-existing conditions are buying the health insurance. Low risk people are not buying in sufficient numbers to create a balanced risk pool. The government is helping you pay for your premium in the individual market in the income range of family of 4 makes > $24,000 and < $94,000. (Note the range is different if there are more than 2 kids)

4. The unbalanced risk pool is causing the premium price to go up (if the health insurance company elects to stay in that market or state/county). UHC left all of their states and Aetna went from 15 states to 4 for 2017.

5. If they to do as you suggest put all the people with pre-existing conditions into their own risk pool, it would not be any cheaper. Insurance companies in general rely on premiums from low risk policyholders to pay off the claims submitted by high risk policyholders. The government would be forced to make up the difference.

6. The fix to use is the bill by Congressman Pete Sessions from Texas. It gets rid of the individual mandate, has the tax credits and lets the states keep their expanded Medicaid. The new house bill being pitched by Ryan will not fly in the Senate. There are at least 3 republican senators who don't want to lose the expanded Medicaid for their state.
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20 years behind bars should suffice.
That is what Dick Cheney should get for committing war crimes in Iraq.
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