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05-09-2021, 07:29 PM
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AKA ULTRA MAGA Gurl
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Originally Posted by txdot-guy
Tucker is about as trustworthy as Bernie Madoff. Bernie Madoff's ponzi scheme was successful because people wanted to believe what he was selling. Tucker Carlson is the same thing. Too many people wanting to believe the tripe he's peddling.
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how trustworthy are Rachel Madow and Brian Stelter?
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05-09-2021, 08:29 PM
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I only believe what Tucker tells me too!
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05-10-2021, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by pfunkdenver
Keep up with what?
The vaccines I mentioned are still used today, aren't they?
This is what you posted "Vaccines turn people into Liberal Zombies. No Thank You."
Can you justify that statement, or are you full of crap?
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Those vaccines you mentioned do the recipients have much choice? Don't try to go "Toe To Toe" with me and yes I can justify anything.
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05-10-2021, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HedonistForever
OK I see the problem. You watched one episode and you misinterpreted it.
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Hedonist, If you're still out there, this may explain how Carlson and his writers got it wrong:
Carlson also compared the number of deaths reported to VAERS that followed Covid-19 vaccinations with those that came after flu shots, which are far lower.
But the CDC previously said that deaths following Covid-19 vaccinations must be reported, while those that come after other immunizations do not.
There is a “requirement that health care providers report all deaths that occur after Covid-19 vaccination (required by the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA)), regardless of whether the health care provider believes the vaccine was the cause,” the CDC said, referring to the authorizations allowing the shots to be administered.
“This reporting requirement does not apply to other vaccines.”
The requirement is mentioned in FDA statements on the EUAs for the Pfizier-BioNTech, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson vaccines.
https://factcheck.afp.com/tucker-car...id-19-vaccines
When we were debating this a few days ago I went into the VAERS database and pulled an Excel file showing number of reports per year, and the jump up in 2021 was striking. I suspect this is part of the reason why.
While in my new, temporary roll as Master Baiter, I speculated that Carlson was being misleading in order to sell advertising, it's perhaps more likely his staff just didn't know that the standards for reporting to VAERS for COVID were much, much more strict than for other vaccines.
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05-10-2021, 12:28 PM
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If you want to hide in your house and avoid social interaction like a hikikomori because you're scared of getting sick, you do you.
If you want to force businesses to close or force people to stay home, go fuck yourself.
If you want to wear a mask, you do you.
If you want to make other people wear a mask, go fuck yourself.
If you want to get your shots, you do you.
If you want to make others get their shots, go fuck yourself.
If you don't want people on your property without masks and/or shots, you do you.
If you want to dictate other people's mask/shot polices on their property, go fuck yourself.
Life is both easier and happier when you value freedom and also mind your own damn business.
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05-10-2021, 01:28 PM
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Levianon, see reply below
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You take a Flu shot every year and you don't get the Flu. I don't take the flu shot every year and I can't remember when I've had the flu last. So what do you think is going on here? You believe in Vaccines based on your own experience. How come people have supposedly died from the Covid-19 Vaccine? It's ironic they didn't get Covid during the Pandemic but took the vaccine out of caution and a short time later died. Was it the Vaccine or was it just coincidence?
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It's a numbers game. I believe people will die as a result of the COVID vaccine. I just believe thousands of times more people will die from COVID.
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All viruses that affect people have a specific mode of transmission and they are tissue specific. For instance Corona viruses affect the tissues of the Upper Respiratory Tract no other tissue. Although they are spread through personal contact they are actually caused by environmental toxins and irritants.
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COVID 19 affects other types of tissues too. Or maybe it's the body's immune response to COVID 19. At least you read about people whose heart and other organs have been affected by COVID 19. Agreed though, the coronaviruses that cause the common cold just or mostly affect the upper respiratory tract. And it's possible environmental toxins and irritants could make you more susceptible to coronavirus infection, although I believe aerosols and droplets are the primary way that COVID 19 is spread. Contact would be a distant 3rd.
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I am skeptical of the covid-19 Vaccines because I don't believe the Virus is a naturally occurring Virus.
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It was certainly originally naturally occurring. It is possible that a lab in China made it more virulent, as part of its research, although I understand if this occurred using standard genetic engineering techniques the virus would exhibit tell tale signs of laboratory modification, which it doesn't. Anyway, why would this make a difference in whether you'd have faith in the vaccine?
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I think the future of this virus is, it will either mutate and become more resistant, less virulent or dissipate completely from the human population all together. Hopefully it's the latter.
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Agree 100%.
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05-10-2021, 01:41 PM
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05-10-2021, 01:53 PM
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He shouldn't be censored or pulled from the air.
At one time there was a book published, which I shall not name, because I'm a paranoid mother fucker who's afraid the NSA is monitoring the world wide web and is going to sweep down on me at any moment. Anyway it had recipes for bombs and drugs. Unfortunately some of the recipes were poorly written or just plain wrong. You could blow yourself up making TNT with their recipe, or die from taking the LSD. Should this book be pulled from the market or censored? I don't think so. However it's contingent on people who know that particular recipes are fucked to bring that to others attention.
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05-10-2021, 02:13 PM
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"Some MD's are dumb, though. They're like a human Google search. But I guess someone has to pay for their porsche."
True. Also true of some posters on this board. Some dummies (or wackos or charlatans) in every profession, but in general, physicians are expert in medicine, lawyers are expert in law, licensed electricians are expert in wiring...and yes, rocket scientists are expert in rocket science. They are expert by nature of their specialized education and vetted as competent by various certifying bodies. Tucker is expert in none of the above. If he talks politics, OK that's opinion not fact and every asshole has an opinion. If he talks science (mask wearing, vaccine, aerodynamics), he is not expert. His right to still OPINE on such matters that require specific educational expertise....but why accept his non-qualified OPINION against those with valid credentials in their field.
If you need to have your appendix removed go to your barber shop....yes, barbers were surgeons in days long gone. Somehow, I think we're better off having them cut hair considering their training.
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05-10-2021, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GastonGlock
If you want to hide in your house and avoid social interaction like a hikikomori because you're scared of getting sick, you do you.
If you want to force businesses to close or force people to stay home, go fuck yourself.
If you want to wear a mask, you do you.
If you want to make other people wear a mask, go fuck yourself.
If you want to get your shots, you do you.
If you want to make others get their shots, go fuck yourself.
If you don't want people on your property without masks and/or shots, you do you.
If you want to dictate other people's mask/shot polices on their property, go fuck yourself.
Life is both easier and happier when you value freedom and also mind your own damn business.
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05-10-2021, 03:58 PM
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If you want to get your shots, you do you.
If you want to make others get their shots, go fuck yourself.
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Anybody who won't get his shots, we should execute him. No excuses, no trial, no delay, just execution right there on the spot. When you mess around with justice and rights of the accused and all that crap it costs more money and puts more people at risk.
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05-10-2021, 04:26 PM
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current eccie polling has it slightly in favor of the cdc. interesting
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05-10-2021, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiny
Anybody who won't get his shots, we should execute him. No excuses, no trial, no delay, just execution right there on the spot. When you mess around with justice and rights of the accused and all that crap it costs more money and puts more people at risk.
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I work with folks who think like this. Shit like this is why I carry a gun everywhere.
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05-10-2021, 04:32 PM
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AKA ULTRA MAGA Gurl
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Originally Posted by Tiny
Anybody who won't get his shots, we should execute him. No excuses, no trial, no delay, just execution right there on the spot. When you mess around with justice and rights of the accused and all that crap it costs more money and puts more people at risk.
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sign me up for the hangman then. not interested in a "miracle cure" for a "death plague" we both agree has LESS THAN 1 percent mortality rate
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current eccie polling has it slightly in favor of the cdc. interesting
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which tells you a lot about the CDC's credibility doesn't? they have flip flopped more times than Fauci.
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05-10-2021, 04:33 PM
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Those vaccines you mentioned do the recipients have much choice? Don't try to go "Toe To Toe" with me and yes I can justify anything.
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I went "toe to toe", and you failed to justify anything.
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