Does using the term "PROVIDER" somehow make the business easier to accept.

["SLICKBACK"]

In and out of various topics and discussions here most ladies like to refer to themselves as "PROVIDERS". Many become offended and defensive when the term whore, prostitute, escort etc. are use, but why? I have always believed in being as honest as possible at least to yourself. The bottom line is you sell sexual favors for a price tag. Depending on the packaging, presentation, particular market the price may differ slightly or extremely, but at the end of the day you sold sex for money and by biblical terms you are a prostitute. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with that, you have a service to sell and there is a customer willing to pay you for your service, that is just plain old american free enterprise. The real hypocrits are the millions of women who sit on the sideline and judge when they themselves are no better. Lets take the executive secretary for example that has sex with the boss to get that raise. How about the coed that screws the professor for a higher grade. Then there is the bar and restaurant industry, that offers women free drinks to draw in the male customer base, which is their intended profit base. As a society we use SEX everywhere to make a profit, but as a society we want to look down our noses at a few women who actually say what they do.

[MrGiz]

Personally.... I've always considered the term "Provider" to be awkward.
There are a few websites which have replaced the term "Provider" with "Companion".... I know , I know...all a matter of semantics.

If it makes any of us feel better to use any certain word to describe the playmate we come here to look for..... whatever...............

Giz

P.S. - As per another currently running thread.... if you'd rather be referred to as hooker, prostitute, callgirl, working girl, whore, slut, cunt, bitchdawg, ..... whatever..... sorry.... I generally call you all playmates!

[EmilyHemingway]

There's a joke I read in Miss Manners once (gawd, yes, I read Miss Manners. Sue me).

A man asks a woman of his acquaintance whether she'd have sex with him for a million dollars. "Sure," she says.
"Well, how about ten dollars?"
Offended, she replies, "What sort of woman do you think I am?"
"We've already established that, madam, " the man says. "Now we're simply negotiating the price."

[Jacquie]

I'm going to take third wave feminism by the balls here and say that I don't think what I do is that shameful or degrading to myself. Granted, because it is illegal, it doesn't find a common ground in conversation. I don't date men in the commited sense. I never understood the point, unless I could see myself developing something truly long term with that person. Being that this lifestyle does not suit a monogamous partnership, I don't engage in them. It's already hard enough to keep it from my circle of friends, much less someone that I'm intimate with. I tried it-- It was like Belle Du Jour season two, almost to the T.

It doesn't matter what I'm called. Though, street as an adjective would not be appropriate. If you've ever met me, you know I'm quite formal in person.

I just always get a good chuckle out of people differentiating between escort and hooker. Has anyone here ever heard of a synonym? I hope so.

Debateably, if there was degradation in the exchange, I would point my finger at he "the hobbyist," "the john," "the customer," whatever word you'd like to appoint to yourself to make you feel good about it when you tuck yourself in with the wifey. He, afterall, would be paying the prositute for access to orfices. That, to me, is a bit empowering and the most sexy thing about the job. Pay tribute to my goods, gents.

[annie@christophers]

FROM ALL OF THE ABOVE! Provider/hooker = Hobbiest(cracks me up everyday)/John/Trick.. C"MON WE know what we are RIGHT??!! LOL!!

[caroline!]

you can call me whatever you want as long as I get paid!

[CassidyBlue]

Originally Posted by "SLICKBACK"

In and out of various topics and discussions here most ladies like to refer to themselves as "PROVIDERS". Many become offended and defensive when the term whore, prostitute, escort etc. are use, but why?

Because most often it is utilized on this type of board in a degrading manner. I for one am not a fan and do not encourage the use of any degrading slang terms. Despite what I do or do not do, I am a lady first and foremost.

This is just my personal opinion as a woman who works in this industry.

[Kaylee]

Originally Posted by caroline!

you can call me whatever you want as long as I get paid!

What she said

[stavinChain]

Originally Posted by caroline!

you can call me whatever you want as long as I get paid!

And I get laid!

[VeronicaMoore]

I think the term "provider" is clumsy, personally. And since I work in a medical field where the term provider is also used quite frequently, it completely sterilizes the word.

I'd rather escort or companion. But really, we all know what this business is all about. Like Caroline said, call it whatever you want, as long as I get paid.

[daarakan]

I personally think it would be good for everyone to use neutral words like provider, companion, hobbiest, etc. Just from the perspective of message control. It is illegal sans two states and often the argument used to keep it as such is that it is immoral. When terms like whore, sl*t, prostitute, trick and john are used, it does nothing to change those preconceptions. They inevitably conjure up the images of creepy looking man driving around a car and getting a scary, cracked up lady leaning into the car offer unsafe (bb) and illicite favors for a few dollars to continue the drug habit. It brings up the use/abuse of women and scary men who are shunned by all social circles and society in general. Therefore it is immoral.

But I would imagine most here would attest that it is not the case. Yes there are aspects of it in edges of the hobby, but it is more so a business as any other. and I assume most people here are not "creepy" or "immoral", maybe so but that is for each individual answer. But if the people that participate in it refer to it in the terms of denigrating and perceived uncouth language then it is impossible to assume others would view it at anything less.

While it isn't going to be legal anytime soon in most states, taking the inflammatory words or ones with strong preconceived notions can move it into an area that is at least a discussion as opposed to revulsion. It would be similar to Billy Mays selling an item by saying you can get this piece of crap for just 10.99, etc. He didn't, which is why he died rich. So for anyone that would like to not be committing a crime while participating in the hobby, using neutral words is a good start.

Just look at the immediate negative response by everyone anytime the potential of a pimp with a girl comes up. Everyone has an innate negative view of that word/concept. But allot of other people have that same feeling towards whore, etc. So if people within the community don't take control of the message in their interaction on this or similar online communities, no one can complain as more tax payer money is wasted busting these "huge criminal events" with two people getting together with a fiscal arrangement in place.

but that is just mho.

[Lea Madisson]

Originally Posted by daarakan

I personally think it would be good for everyone to use neutral words like provider, companion, hobbiest, etc. Just from the perspective of message control. It is illegal sans two states and often the argument used to keep it as such is that it is immoral. When terms like whore, sl*t, prostitute, trick and john are used, it does nothing to change those preconceptions. They inevitably conjure up the images of creepy looking man driving around a car and getting a scary, cracked up lady leaning into the car offer unsafe (bb) and illicite favors for a few dollars to continue the drug habit. It brings up the use/abuse of women and scary men who are shunned by all social circles and society in general. Therefore it is immoral.

But I would imagine most here would attest that it is not the case. Yes there are aspects of it in edges of the hobby, but it is more so a business as any other. and I assume most people here are not "creepy" or "immoral", maybe so but that is for each individual answer. But if the people that participate in it refer to it in the terms of denigrating and perceived uncouth language then it is impossible to assume others would view it at anything less.

While it isn't going to be legal anytime soon in most states, taking the inflammatory words or ones with strong preconceived notions can move it into an area that is at least a discussion as opposed to revulsion. It would be similar to Billy Mays selling an item by saying you can get this piece of crap for just 10.99, etc. He didn't, which is why he died rich. So for anyone that would like to not be committing a crime while participating in the hobby, using neutral words is a good start.

Just look at the immediate negative response by everyone anytime the potential of a pimp with a girl comes up. Everyone has an innate negative view of that word/concept. But allot of other people have that same feeling towards whore, etc. So if people within the community don't take control of the message in their interaction on this or similar online communities, no one can complain as more tax payer money is wasted busting these "huge criminal events" with two people getting together with a fiscal arrangement in place.

but that is just mho.

I like the idea of "provider, companion, hobbyist" being more neutral words... he does make some good points... perhaps we should come up with some new ones.

BUT...

Originally Posted by caroline!

you can call me whatever you want as long as I get paid!

Originally Posted by Kaylee

What she said

Amen to Caroline and Kaylee!!

[DallasRain]

I like to call myself a companion and refer to my clients as friends

Lea - for new terms how bout "fun makers" or "fu*k buddies"???{lol}

[pornodave69]

Originally Posted by caroline!

you can call me whatever you want as long as I get paid!

No offense to you, Caroline. I already posted this in the sandbox, but given your quote....

[caroline!]

but you didn't pay me darlin...

but the guy I just saw did.