A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data By John P.A. Ioannidis March 17, 2020

[oeb11]

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Originally Posted by adav8s28
Democrats don't want death....

One of the most blad-faced 'woke" enabled hypocrisies I have ever read.

DPST's figured the wuhan virus is going away and can't lock folks up on edict anymore - so set theirminions loose in the streets to demand "Justice" - while the cops are already charged.


Just another way to use violence politically - they think favor of the biden ticket - thinking people will see this and for those who believe yet in a Constitution - the choice is clear.
Rrule of Law or anarchy!

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Could have saved 99.998% of people with one teensey thing

A very good article worth reading in it's entirety. Please do.
How Fear, Groupthink Drove Unnecessary Global Lockdowns


...That is the story of what may eventually be known as one of the biggest medical and economic blunders of all time. The collective failure of every Western nation, except one, to question groupthink will surely be studied by economists, doctors, and psychologists for decades to come...

Your link only has numbers for 1% of the USA population being infected (approx. 3.3 million people). It's too early to make predictions on survival rates.

Ioannidis predicted that ONLY 10,000 USA citizen would die from CV19 if 1% of the population became infected with CV19. He was off by 90,000 people. This is something that can't be disputed.

If we assume that case fatality rate among individuals infected by SARS-CoV-2 is 0.3% in the general population — a mid-range guess from my Diamond Princess analysis — and that 1% of the U.S. population gets infected (about 3.3 million people), this would translate to about 10,000 deaths.

If his calculation estimate had been accurate, you could argue that going for Herd Immunity would be the option to choose. However, with 105,000 deaths with just 1% of the population being infected, Fauci and others gave Trump the right advice to SHUT things down and do the social distancing to contain the spread.

[Redhot1960]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Your link only has numbers for 1% of the USA population being infected (approx. 3.3 million people). It's too early to make predictions on survival rates.

Ioannidis predicted that ONLY 10,000 USA citizen would die from CV19 if 1% of the population became infected with CV19. He was off by 90,000 people. This is something that can't be disputed.

If we assume that case fatality rate among individuals infected by SARS-CoV-2 is 0.3% in the general population — a mid-range guess from my Diamond Princess analysis — and that 1% of the U.S. population gets infected (about 3.3 million people), this would translate to about 10,000 deaths.

If his calculation estimate had been accurate, you could argue that going for Herd Immunity would be the option to choose. However, with 105,000 deaths with just 1% of the population being infected, Fauci and others gave Trump the right advice to SHUT things down and do the social distancing to contain the spread.

Your "Karen" haircut avatar matches your posting style, 0zombie

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Redhot1960

Your "Karen" haircut avatar matches your posting style, 0zombie

What are you talking about repubtard retard? There is only one handle that used the word ozombie, that was IFFYlube. He disabled his account a while ago. Perhaps you two know each other?

I met the girl in my Avatar. She's retired now.

[oeb11]

Thank u very much - 'a" - When Liberals degenerate to name-calling - "Repubtard retard" - (note duplication - likely un-noticed) - u have completely abandoned any semblance of cogent and constructive debate - and made it clear anger- not thoughtfulness - dominates ur argument.



as another poster liberal who does like to post nazi pics/videos.

such delusion is suchd a waste of alife.



not mention slurring the handicapped - from the PC community - no less - How does the person with Down syndrome feel about such a slur - they are people with their own intelligence and feelings to be respected - despite your obvious contempt and disdain.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Thank u very much - 'a" - When Liberals degenerate to name-calling - "Repubtard retard" - (note duplication - likely un-noticed) - u have completely abandoned any semblance of cogent and constructive debate - and made it clear anger- not thoughtfulness - dominates ur argument.

So, Redhot1960 can call me a name? But, I can't call him a name? You repubtards can dish it out, but can't handle it when it comes back at you. What do you think IBH has been doing for 10 years on here?

[oeb11]

as usual - denial and deflection - such 2nd grade rationalization

if little Timmy calls little 'a' a bad name - does that automatically give little 'a' free license and cause to do the same???
guess what - it is called Personal Responsibility" - and NO - it does not give 'a' free reign to retaliate any way he wants.



If a person shoots into your house and burgles/robs U, 'a' - sets fire to your dwelling and assaults U and if u have anyone else at home - does that give u free reign to retaliate in kind????


Perhaps given the liberal acceptance of Violence in rioting and looting as "non-violent protest" - if U accept that - go right on ahead and retaliate. Rather than call police to address the crime. .



as long as we have any semblance of rule of law - No U do not get a free pass to retaliate, riot, loot, or call little Timmy names. No - One may not commit a crime in retaliation for crimes committed against one.



Grow Up.

The RTM button is your little Friend.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by oeb11

as usual - denial and deflection -

Grow Up.

I don't see you giving any lectures to Redhot1960.

I don't believe in revenge. I just believe in getting even.

[oeb11]

no need to give "lectures" to RH -he ha done nothing to deserve such communication.

unlike 'a' Liberal.



More deflection and denial - and a totally absent sense of any personal responsibility for One's conduct.

U will do very very in a Stalinist controlling nanny state - u have already given up the choice of personal freedom.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Your link only has numbers for 1% of the USA population being infected (approx. 3.3 million people). It's too early to make predictions on survival rates.

Ioannidis predicted that ONLY 10,000 USA citizen would die from CV19 if 1% of the population became infected with CV19. He was off by 90,000 people. This is something that can't be disputed.

If we assume that case fatality rate among individuals infected by SARS-CoV-2 is 0.3% in the general population — a mid-range guess from my Diamond Princess analysis — and that 1% of the U.S. population gets infected (about 3.3 million people), this would translate to about 10,000 deaths.

If his calculation estimate had been accurate, you could argue that going for Herd Immunity would be the option to choose. However, with 105,000 deaths with just 1% of the population being infected, Fauci and others gave Trump the right advice to SHUT things down and do the social distancing to contain the spread.

Yeah, if you need to get to 70% of the population to get herd immunity, then with Ioannidis' 0.3% infection fatality rate you'd have almost 700,000 deaths.

0.003 x 0.7 x 327,000,000 = 687,000 deaths

Looking at it another way, if you believe that the infection fatality rate is 0.3%, then the number of Americans who would have been infected, given 111,000 deaths, is 111,000/.003 = 37 million Americans. This would have been several weeks ago, as it takes some time between infection and death. This is 11% of the American population.

I believe less than 11% of the population has been infected, based on studies using antibody tests. Therefore I believe the infection fatality rate is greater than 0.3%. But still, with 0.3%, you end up with almost 700,000 dead Americans to get to herd immunity.

[adav8s28]

[QUOTE=oeb11;1062080809]no need to give "lectures" to RH -he ha done nothing to deserve such communication.

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RH can call me a name? I can't call him one back? Your logic is flawed.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Yeah, if you need to get to 70% of the population to get herd immunity, then with Ioannidis' 0.3% infection fatality rate you'd have almost 700,000 deaths.

0.003 x 0.7 x 327,000,000 = 687,000 deaths

Looking at it another way, if you believe that the infection fatality rate is 0.3%, then the number of Americans who would have been infected, given 111,000 deaths, is 111,000/.003 = 37 million Americans. This would have been several weeks ago, as it takes some time between infection and death. This is 11% of the American population.

I believe less than 11% of the population has been infected, based on studies using antibody tests. Therefore I believe the infection fatality rate is greater than 0.3%. But still, with 0.3%, you end up with almost 700,000 dead Americans to get to herd immunity.

+1

Excellent post Tiny. The infection fatality rate is greater than 0.3%. Ioannidis estimate does not match reality. Fauci and others gave Trump good advice to shut things down to control the spread.

[oeb11]

[QUOTE=adav8s28;1062080828]

Originally Posted by oeb11

no need to give "lectures" to RH -he ha done nothing to deserve such communication.

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RH can call me a name? I can't call him one back? Your logic is flawed.

u generalized it to me - "logic" - hardly.

Denial, deflection. Obfuscation.

[adav8s28]

[QUOTE=oeb11;1062080989]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Denial, deflection. Obfuscation.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

+1

Excellent post Tiny. The infection fatality rate is greater than 0.3%. Ioannidis estimate does not match reality. Fauci and others gave Trump good advice to shut things down to control the spread.

the same Fauci who said less than two weeks ahead of Trump's travel ban it wasn't a big concern to the US or some other Fauci? the same Fauci that said no need for masks then said wear masks? oh yeah he clearly was trying to stockpile them for the medical community. okay. or some other Fauci who under Obama gave the Chinese 3.7 M to study the bat shit guano virus.



and they found it, yeah?



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