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Old 01-02-2012, 10:00 PM   #1
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Default Obama Breaks ANOTHER Promise! Signs NDAA

The most dishonest and corrupt President ever! Excellent piece in the Guardian.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...erty?fb=optOut

So come on, Obamazombies. Defend your guy against this.

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Old 01-03-2012, 08:44 AM   #2
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No Obama supporter wants to address this. If I supported Obama, I wouldn't either. But this is a bipartisan outrage. Many so-called "patriotic" Republicans voted for this POS as well. I haven't heard Romney's position, but I'll be he supported it, too, as would all the Republican candidates except Ron Paul.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:00 PM   #3
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COG's calling the pot kettle black!

game set match!
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:03 PM   #4
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So, Dil, do you have a point?
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Old 01-03-2012, 11:07 PM   #5
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nah, just tryin' to help out
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:41 AM   #6
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Default FYI

For anyone who cares to take action, the following bills offer a means to affect change and address NDAA's assault on the right to due process guaranteed U.S. citizens.

You can help eliminate indefinite detention and restore due process for U.S. citizens by contacting your representatives and urging them to support these bills:

Senate bill S.2003 - Due Process Guarantee Act 2011 http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s2003/show

House bill H.R.3702 - Due Process Guarantee Act 2011 http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3702/show

Also, you can sign the petition here: http://act.demandprogress.org/letter/ndaa_reversal/

Pass it on!
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From what I've read, Section 1021 (Which used to be Section 1031) had the offensive language taken out of it. That American citizens were not subject to the indefinite detention without trial. Is that true or not?


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Old 01-07-2012, 04:50 PM   #8
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From what I've read, Section 1021 (Which used to be Section 1031) had the offensive language taken out of it. That American citizens were not subject to the indefinite detention without trial. Is that true or not?
Read Section 1031. It's worded in such a way that a U.S. citizen suspected of aiding al Qaeda can be detained indefinitely by U.S. military forces: it does not expressly prohibit detainment of U.S. citizens.

EDIT TO ADD: Read @ http://www.salon.com/2011/12/16/thre...ill/singleton/
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