kpopgirls website is down....

[Ddaglous]

whats the chances they go old messages and look for people that made appointments before?

[jkk]

Originally Posted by Ddaglous

whats the chances they go old messages and look for people that made appointments before?

Will be up to the owner,s bookers and/or pimps to turn theme over as bargaining tool or not.

[purplepatch]

Originally Posted by Ddaglous

whats the chances they go old messages and look for people that made appointments before?

Making an appointment with an escort is not illegal. Paying for sex is illegal but you didn't do that. And if someone says you did, the burden of proof is on them. You don't have to prove that you didn't do it; they have to prove that you did. And that's going to be hard to do from a few text messages about scheduling an appointment. Even if sex for money was explicitly offered to you in a text message, it doesn't mean that you did it. Unless you wrote to the booker and said something like, "I agree to pay money for sex at this appointment", you're fine.

If they do make contact, remember that you always have the right to remain silent and you should exercise that right at all times when dealing with police. Let an attorney do the talking for you. The only thing you should ever say is, "I do not consent." Cooperation doesn't benefit you in any way whatsoever. It just makes their job easier.

But I highly doubt any detectives are going to be eager to build flimsy cases against people for nothing more than solicitation.

[poon_69]

I believe if you discuss services and a price, that’s good enough…. the two don’t have to end up changing hands. That’s why it is called solicitation. But I’m not a lawyer

[HenrySwanson]

I think you have to agree to the prices mentioned...that's why I hate it when the booker texts that canned message about pricing and extras...I never reply to it and always just ask to see the girl for a certain amount of time and never agree to anything other than a time and date. not sure if that shields me, but that's about as agreeable as you can get without actually saying "Yes, money for sex!"

[poon_69]

Originally Posted by HenrySwanson

I think you have to agree to the prices mentioned...that's why I hate it when the booker texts that canned message about pricing and extras...I never reply to it and always just ask to see the girl for a certain amount of time and never agree to anything other than a time and date. not sure if that shields me, but that's about as agreeable as you can get without actually saying "Yes, money for sex!"

Exactly, just say no thank you, I just want an hour massage. Then TCB there. Still risk but at least your transaction isn’t in writing

[purplepatch]

In addition to burner phones, hobbyists and providers need to stop using basic sms messaging. Telegram is a much better choice because you can delete an entire conversation for both people on all devices. It doesn't completely insulate you but it's a hell of a lot better than standard sms.

[TinMan]

Hopefully, some of you guys will remember the sleepless nights you’ve experienced since 12/17 and avoid hobby experiences that require you to hand over your RW information.

[Wifenothornyenough]

Originally Posted by Ajthag

Age and race doesn’t mean much on its own. But a fake or modified ID (photoshop exists for a reason), a burner phone, etc.

When you say burner phone, do you mean a physical phone, or just a burner phone number or burner app? Or like a Tracphone prepaid from Walmart/Target ?

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by purplepatch

Making an appointment with an escort is not illegal. Paying for sex is illegal but you didn't do that. And if someone says you did, the burden of proof is on them. You don't have to prove that you didn't do it; they have to prove that you did. And that's going to be hard to do from a few text messages about scheduling an appointment. Even if sex for money was explicitly offered to you in a text message, it doesn't mean that you did it. Unless you wrote to the booker and said something like, "I agree to pay money for sex at this appointment", you're fine.

If they do make contact, remember that you always have the right to remain silent and you should exercise that right at all times when dealing with police. Let an attorney do the talking for you. The only thing you should ever say is, "I do not consent." Cooperation doesn't benefit you in any way whatsoever. It just makes their job easier.

But I highly doubt any detectives are going to be eager to build flimsy cases against people for nothing more than solicitation.

Point of clarification.
Making an offer to pay for a sexual act is all that's needed for a solicitation charge.

Texas Penal Code - PENAL § 43.021. Solicitation of Prostitution
A person commits an offense if the person knowingly offers or agrees to pay a fee to another person for the purpose of engaging in sexual conduct with that person or another.

https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-c...l-sect-43-021/

And...there's a difference in prostitution charge and solicitation of prostitution

Prostitution in Texas
Under Texas law, someone commits prostitution "if the person knowingly offers or agrees to receive a fee from another to engage in sexual conduct." Tex. Penal Code § 43.02 (2021). While the basic charge can be a Class B Misdemeanor, it rises to a Class A Misdemeanor if you have two or more previous convictions for prostitution. Prostitution rises to a state jail felony if you have three or more previous prostitution convictions. The state may also enhance your prostitution charge by one degree if it happens close to a school, a school function, or an event held by the University Interscholastic League. The possible penalties include the following:

Class B Misdemeanor: Up to 180 days in jail and a $2,000 fine
Class A Misdemeanor: Up to one year in jail and a $4,000 fine
State Jail Felony: Up to two years in jail and a $10,000 fine
Solicitation of Prostitution in Texas
Texas law also differentiates between prostitution and solicitation of prostitution. In other words, the penalties are steeper for those who solicit prostitution than for those who accept money for sex or sexual acts. Someone commits "solicitation of prostitution" under Texas law If they "knowingly offer[] or agree[] to pay a fee to another person for the purpose of engaging in sexual conduct with that person or another." Tex. Penal Code § 43.021 (2021).

Penalties for soliciting prostitution in Texas are serious. After the 2021 changes to the law, a first offense is a state jail felony, punishable by up to two years in jail and a $10,000 fine. With a prior conviction for soliciting prostitution, the crime becomes a third-degree felony punishable by up to ten years in prison and a $10,000 fine. The crime becomes a second-degree felony if the prostitute is under 18, the prostitute claims to be under 18, or the john believes the prostitute to be under 18. A second-degree felony is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

https://www.dougmurphylaw.com/why-is...elony-in-texas

[CT$odGwn]

Originally Posted by RX792P

...The crime becomes a second-degree felony if the prostitute is under 18, the prostitute claims to be under 18, or the john believes the prostitute to be under 18. A second-degree felony is punishable by up to 20 years in prison...

This part sounds incredibly unconstitutional. In the 3 situation listed, the later 2 are imaginary only. This this basically a thought crime.

[TinMan]

If he acts on it based on his belief about her age, then it’s not just a thought crime. Many stings are set up to capture predators who think they are talking with a younger person.

[Big b.o.b.1]

Originally Posted by jkk

They sell screen data/information.
When this first started, HaeJin had large screen data from APT and LA and sold it to LA, GL and KF. Then MingJung had her own screen data from SF. LA and GL sold data to CP and some. Ming Jung sold data to KP, Velvet’s start up agencies and some.
Data has been sold as low as $500 to tens of thousands. Some bookers and promoters have these data also.

To all the LE handles on here, this JKK guy obviously knows inside information and is part of the inner workings of these organizations, might be somebody you want to talk to.

[Roel G]

Originally Posted by Big b.o.b.1

To all the LE handles on here, this JKK guy obviously knows inside information and is part of the inner workings of these organizations, might be somebody you want to talk to.

What if JKK is LE himself or an anonymous hotline tipper. Like you said he knows wayyy to much insider info and always had a strong hate towards GL.

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by CT$odGwn

This part sounds incredibly unconstitutional. In the 3 situation listed, the later 2 are imaginary only. This this basically a thought crime.

What do you think is unconstitutional about it?