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Old 02-03-2026, 06:18 PM   #16
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Yeah. Here's one you forgot:

"Fifty-three percent of Americans polled disapprove of the president's immigration policy..."

From Reuters/Ipsos, Jan 25....

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Old 02-03-2026, 06:31 PM   #17
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if you have to put legal in quotes how "legal" are they? i don't buy one word of the leftist media hype that innocent people are being kidnapped off the streets and illegally deported.
If you have to obfuscate the specific nouns, how can we know what you are talking about.

Goes hand in hand.

You are feeding the sheeple idea of the poll.
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Old 02-04-2026, 05:34 AM   #18
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I am with W_K on this. I have a very hard time believing that regular-folks-Americans are being indiscriminately swept up off the street and deported.

And we hear nothing like that from so many other states where ICE is just as actively serving wrens on foreign nationals who circumvented our immigration laws.
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Old 02-04-2026, 08:33 AM   #19
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Regular folks who aren’t lily white. Believe it. It takes imagination to meet Miller’s daily quota of arrests.

Also believe this: a new poll shows more Americans think Biden did a better job as POTUS than the fat fucking fascist.

Biden didn’t loose a secret army of masked thugs on American soil. That rude awakening is going on now.
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Regular folks who aren’t lily white. Believe it. It takes imagination to meet Miller’s daily quota of arrests.

Also believe this: a new poll shows more Americans think Biden did a better job as POTUS than the fat fucking fascist.

Biden didn’t loose a secret army of masked thugs on American soil. That rude awakening is going on now.
Biden lost 10 million illegals on American soil to terrorize folks!
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Biden lost 10 million illegals on American soil to terrorize folks!



A 2024 DHS report indicated that 79% of unauthorized immigrants have lived in the U.S. since before 2010.
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Old 02-04-2026, 10:24 AM   #22
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Biden lost 10 million illegals on American soil to terrorize folks!
What source do you attribute that to? Or are you pulling numbers out of thin air?

elg…..
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Old 02-04-2026, 10:54 AM   #23
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What source do you attribute that to? Or are you pulling numbers out of thin air?

elg…..
https://www.fairus.org/issue/how-man...es-2025-update

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As of March 2025, FAIR estimates that approximately 18.6 million illegal aliens reside in the United States. This is 11 percent higher than our June 2023 illegal alien population estimate of 16.8 million.[1]

Since our December 2020 estimate, the illegal alien population in the United States has grown by 4.1 million
Can't seem to put the graph in link here.

Yeah, way too many.
OTOH, a revised immigration policy that has reasonable legal entry policy could well increase the number of tax paying legal aliens in the US.
Might be handy given the cuts to tax revenue income that are now in place.
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Old 02-04-2026, 11:09 AM   #24
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Yeah. Here's one you forgot:

"Fifty-three percent of Americans polled disapprove of the president's immigration policy..."

From Reuters/Ipsos, Jan 25....

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this Reuters poll?



https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...ds-2026-01-26/


Reuters says one thing Cygnal says another.



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Regular folks who aren’t lily white. Believe it. It takes imagination to meet Miller’s daily quota of arrests.

Also believe this: a new poll shows more Americans think Biden did a better job as POTUS than the fat fucking fascist.

Biden didn’t loose a secret army of masked thugs on American soil. That rude awakening is going on now.

neither has Trump. most of these agents have been with Border patrol and ICE for many years. like when Biden was president. so where were they then? not doing anything because the Democrats wouldn't let them.



what Biden did do is intentionally flood the US with 10 million illegals where at least half if not more like 70 percent don't meet asylum standards. and never will.



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A 2024 DHS report indicated that 79% of unauthorized immigrants have lived in the U.S. since before 2010.

which only shows this has been a long standing issue across both Democrat and Republican administrations.
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what Biden did do is intentionally flood the US with 10 million illegals where at least half if not more like 70 percent don't meet asylum standards. and never will.


which only shows this has been a long standing issue across both Democrat and Republican administrations.
Actually, it, along with other info posted shows a bit more.

It shows the 'Biden 10 million illegals' claim doesn't hold up.


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As of March 2025, FAIR estimates that approximately 18.6 million illegal aliens reside in the United States. This is 11 percent higher than our June 2023 illegal alien population estimate of 16.8 million.[1]

Since our December 2020 estimate, the illegal alien population in the United States has grown by 4.1 million

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A 2024 DHS report indicated that 79% of unauthorized immigrants have lived in the U.S. since before 2010.
18,600,000 x 79%
14,694,000 of those 18.6 million have lived here since well before Biden's term as President.
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Old 02-04-2026, 12:55 PM   #26
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Actually, it, along with other info posted shows a bit more.

It shows the 'Biden 10 million illegals' claim doesn't hold up.







18,600,000 x 79%
14,694,000 of those 18.6 million have lived here since well before Biden's term as President.



During the Biden administration (2021–2025), the U.S. experienced historically high levels of immigration, with over
10 million nationwide migrant encounters recorded by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) through late 2024. This surge, driven by both unauthorized crossings and new parole programs, brought the estimated unauthorized immigrant population in the U.S. to a record high of approximately 14 million in 2023.

Key Immigration Data (2021–2025)

  • Total Encounters: Over 10.8 million nationwide encounters, with more than 8.7 million at the Southwest border, from FY2021 through FY2024.
  • "Gotaways": An estimated 1.7 to 2 million individuals were detected but not apprehended ("gotaways").
how many of those 10 million "encounters" were turned away or openly allowed in by Biden?
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Biden lost 10 million illegals on American soil to terrorize folks!
Terrorize them how exactly? By living their lives, creating small businesses, paying taxes, having children, supporting their communities, etc. etc.

Oh my god it’s so scary I’ve been terrorized!
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Terrorize them how exactly? By living their lives, creating small businesses, paying taxes, having children, supporting their communities, etc. etc.

Oh my god it’s so scary I’ve been terrorized!
YEAH!
One of them terrorized me this summer with a very loud metal blade slinging device into yards near me every week!

A whole gang of them terrorized me by loudly and repeatedly banging hammers on top of my neighbor's house.
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I am with W_K on this. I have a very hard time believing that regular-folks-Americans are being indiscriminately swept up off the street and deported.

And we hear nothing like that from so many other states where ICE is just as actively serving wrens on foreign nationals who circumvented our immigration laws.
I can believe that.

That is because Homeland Security/ICE continues to block access to the people they sweep up. No way to validate they are getting the worst of the worse and bad hombres and leaving law abiding people alone.

All they have to do is be transparent. There is a reason why they are not.
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During the Biden administration (2021–2025), the U.S. experienced historically high levels of immigration, with over
10 million nationwide migrant encounters recorded by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) through late 2024. This surge, driven by both unauthorized crossings and new parole programs, brought the estimated unauthorized immigrant population in the U.S. to a record high of approximately 14 million in 2023.

Key Immigration Data (2021–2025)

  • Total Encounters: Over 10.8 million nationwide encounters, with more than 8.7 million at the Southwest border, from FY2021 through FY2024.
  • "Gotaways": An estimated 1.7 to 2 million individuals were detected but not apprehended ("gotaways").
how many of those 10 million "encounters" were turned away or openly allowed in by Biden?
Maybe a good question, but "encounter" does not equal entries.
ENCOUNTER:
CBP defines an "encounter" as any interaction between Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers or U.S. Border Patrol (USBP) agents and a noncitizen who is either apprehended for crossing the border unlawfully or deemed inadmissible at a port of entry. This metric includes apprehensions, temporary detentions, and expulsions under Title 8 or Title 42
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