Astronauts To The Moon and Back.

[ICU 812]

Looks like NASSA is back. . . . .and the capsule worked this time.

I remember watching Allen Shepherd the first time we launched a man from Cape Canaveral, then John Glen.

I remember watching the first moon Landing. I was a sub-adult then and have lived most of my adult life since then. What took us so long?

Will the next administration of either party continue this or will we just drift off into inward looking self indulgance?

[1blackman1]

Hopefully we will push further into space exploration.

[txdot-guy]

Putting people into space, while certainly inspiring, is clearly a massive boondoggle.

Humanity has evolved to live on earth and in earth conditions. Living in space or even in a low gravity environment like the moon is deadly for humans over the long term.

Unless there is some kind of economic benefit that can offset the effort and resources required I’m not sure it’s worth it.

[Budman]

Txdot,
You're just pissed because it happened under Trump.

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by Budman

Txdot,
You're just pissed because it happened under Trump.

Why would you say that? While I'm pleased with the mission success, there's plenty of reasonable people and reasons that support wanting to see the $100B that will be spent on the Artemis missions to be spent on programs here on earth.

Is everything you say or do about trump? Seems like TDS.

[royamcr]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Putting people into space, while certainly inspiring, is clearly a massive boondoggle.

Humanity has evolved to live on earth and in earth conditions. Living in space or even in a low gravity environment like the moon is deadly for humans over the long term.

Unless there is some kind of economic benefit that can offset the effort and resources required I’m not sure it’s worth it.

It is worth it or will be. Predicted to be a trillion $ industry in 15 years.

[royamcr]

Originally Posted by Budman

Txdot,
You're just pissed because it happened under Trump.

Like that orange clown had anything to do with space exploration.

These are emerging markets that only the smartest minds can imagine. Trump's mental health tests don't count.

[fd-guy]

Originally Posted by royamcr

It is worth it or will be. Predicted to be a trillion $ industry in 15 years.

Originally Posted by royamcr

Like that orange clown had anything to do with space exploration.

These are emerging markets that only the smartest minds can imagine. Trump's mental health tests don't count.

Right? I believe I saw that he's trying to lower the NASA budget by over $5B so he can pump up the defense budget. Not exactly science heavy, those guys.

[pxmcc]

Originally Posted by Budman

Txdot,
You're just pissed because it happened under Trump.

not really. just a reality check.

this talk about colonies on the moon and Mars is pie in the sky. there are multiple reasons it will never work.

we're patting ourselves on the back for accomplishing something we did 50+ years ago.

the only notion that astronauts come back with is that we better be nice to Earth, as she is our only hope. none of them talk about space mining and colonies because they realize it will never work. William Shatner described it as looking into the face of death, even on a short hop space trip.

realistically, what are we trying to accomplish? prepare Mars for habitation after we wreck planet Earth? good luck with that..

[Budman]

Originally Posted by fd-guy

Why would you say that? While I'm pleased with the mission success, there's plenty of reasonable people and reasons that support wanting to see the $100B that will be spent on the Artemis missions to be spent on programs here on earth.

Is everything you say or do about trump? Seems like TDS.

I say that because everything he post is anti Trump. I believe that if Harris was POTUS he would be telling us how great this is. Trump didn't do it but it happened under his watch. If a disaster happened and they didn't come home you and all the libs here would be blaming Trump.

[Budman]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Putting people into space, while certainly inspiring, is clearly a massive boondoggle.

Humanity has evolved to live on earth and in earth conditions. Living in space or even in a low gravity environment like the moon is deadly for humans over the long term.

Unless there is some kind of economic benefit that can offset the effort and resources required I’m not sure it’s worth it.

You will never know of the possible economic benefits unless you explore.

[royamcr]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

not really. just a reality check.

this talk about colonies on the moon and Mars is pie in the sky. there are multiple reasons it will never work.

we're patting ourselves on the back for accomplishing something we did 50+ years ago.

the only notion that astronauts come back with is that we better be nice to Earth, as she is our only hope. none of them talk about space mining and colonies because they realize it will never work. William Shatner described it as looking into the face of death, even on a short hop space trip.

realistically, what are we trying to accomplish? prepare Mars for habitation after we wreck planet Earth? good luck with that..

Mining is just one opportunity. Zero gravity manufacturing in space is another. Space tourism is gonna get bigger. Potentially trillions in rare earth metals on Mars and probably even the moon.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Budman

You will never know of the possible economic benefits unless you explore.

I don’t have a problem with space exploration or space science or even the commercial exploitation of space. I just think that our efforts should be centered around the utilization of technology and AI perhaps to do the science and exploration without the need for human presence in space.

Making space flight man rated increases costs to such a degree that it becomes economically impossible to do so without government assistance. Not to mention that every time someone dies every thing slows down and becomes even more expensive than before.

I just think that it’s inefficient in the extreme.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Putting people into space, while certainly inspiring, is clearly a massive boondoggle.

Humanity has evolved to live on earth and in earth conditions. Living in space or even in a low gravity environment like the moon is deadly for humans over the long term.

Unless there is some kind of economic benefit that can offset the effort and resources required I’m not sure it’s worth it.

Homo Sapien has adapted to every environment on Earth. And we evolve to adapt to each one. Space is no different. With all the decades that have passed since Man has escaped our gravity well, we have learned from it. So, we have a bit of knowledge on how to proceed.

And the way we have treated this planet, we're chomping at the bit to trash another one.

Originally Posted by Budman

Txdot,
You're just pissed because it happened under Trump.

MeThinks if he is pissed, it is because he couldn't get away from the orange wah wah.

Originally Posted by royamcr

Like that orange clown had anything to do with space exploration.

These are emerging markets that only the smartest minds can imagine. Trump's mental health tests don't count.

Yeah. You listen to him wax poetically about the event? Could barely contain his excitement....snooze.

Originally Posted by fd-guy

Right? I believe I saw that he's trying to lower the NASA budget by over $5B so he can pump up the defense budget. Not exactly science heavy, those guys.

If it don't put $$$ in his pocket, he could care less.

Originally Posted by pxmcc

not really. just a reality check.

this talk about colonies on the moon and Mars is pie in the sky. there are multiple reasons it will never work.

we're patting ourselves on the back for accomplishing something we did 50+ years ago.

the only notion that astronauts come back with is that we better be nice to Earth, as she is our only hope. none of them talk about space mining and colonies because they realize it will never work. William Shatner described it as looking into the face of death, even on a short hop space trip.

realistically, what are we trying to accomplish? prepare Mars for habitation after we wreck planet Earth? good luck with that..

It did bring back memories watching the minutes before re-entry to just after splash down. Reminded me that we can actually do something. And on the time table given.

I tell you, the pictures they took of Earth sure has shown how we have abused the Planet as compared to the first one taken by Apollo.

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