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		|  03-07-2013, 08:55 PM | #46 |  
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			Yet another embarrassment from McCain.  Yeah he my Senator and well past his prime.
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		|  03-07-2013, 08:57 PM | #47 |  
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				 I bet you voted for Mccain in 2008 
 
			
			
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					Originally Posted by IIFFOFRDB  McCain is done. So are others. |  
Rand Paul should now filibuster the Obama administration to assure us that we will not drone Martians, should they land in New Mexico!
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		|  03-07-2013, 09:08 PM | #48 |  
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					Originally Posted by Chica Chaser  Yet another embarrassment from McCain. Yeah he my Senator and well past his prime. |  
It was a PR move by Rand Paul. 
  
Next he will be making an accusation that Obama was in the DR with Mendez and do another filibuster to make them promise not to screw underage girls. 
  
No different than asking the question, "Are you still beating your wife" 
  
The Admin made the mistake of ignoring the silly fucking question. Give Rand credit, he made a mountain out of a sink hole!  You notice "not engaged"? 
  
That means they think they can drone citizen engaged in combat. Why didn't Rand press them on the meaning of 'combat'. 
 
 
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		|  03-07-2013, 09:11 PM | #49 |  
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					Originally Posted by WTF  It was a PR move by Rand Paul. 
 Next he will be making an accusation that Obama was in the DR with Mendez and do another filibuster to make them promise not to screw underage girls.
 
 No different than asking the question, "Are you still beating your wife"
 
 The Admin made the mistake of ignoring the silly fucking question. Give Rand credit, he made a mountain out of a sink hole!
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Bullshit comparisons trying to deflect blame from Obama/Holder who were trying to play cute.  I think this summarizes things nicely:
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		|  03-07-2013, 11:57 PM | #50 |  
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			Homo.
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		|  03-08-2013, 09:07 AM | #51 |  
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				 Obama should drone LK first. People like her are the biggest threat to this country. Drone her with horseshit on her bunker! 
 
			
			
	If you read the letter, it does nothing to address the actual question at hand. Can the President kill Americans on our own soil with drones. The answer is yes, if he thinks they are engaged in combat. Combat was not defined. So Rand Paul engaged in political grandstanding for the paranoid/ignorant among us. I'll be nice and leave it up to each individual to define ignorant. There is no doubt who the paranoid are roaming this forum.
 
Below is the head paranoid: You are welcome to grab a gun , a couple hundred thousand rounds of ammo and join her and JD in their bunkerQuote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by LovingKayla  I stayed up with those guys till the filibuster ended. I was ready to stay up all night to support what they were doing. I've left messages with both Rand and Ted. Thank God someone actually said, " hmmm our president is trying to have the ability to kill American's on American soil?" I don't give even one shit what you liberal idiots have to say on this issue that isn't in support of the constitution. |  
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					Originally Posted by LovingKayla   When I start to slip and think maybe democrats aren't so bad, I just come to the sand box to remind me how completely anti American you all actually are. You think you're just giving people on the right a bunch of shit, but what you're really doing is proving you are all traitors to our country. Fuck you liberal jack asses. I have no mercy in my heart for any of you. If you were on fire, I might piss on you.... but I'd charge extra.
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		|  03-08-2013, 09:38 AM | #52 |  
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				 This just in , fresh off the AP 
 
			
			Rand Paul wants assurance Old Yeller won't be droned! 
 
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		|  03-08-2013, 10:01 AM | #53 |  
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			I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
 President Obama has not used a drone attack on an American on American soil and says he has no plans to do so.
 
 Personally, I think leaving his future intentions a little vague will put  fear only in those criminals who might be thinking about evil deeds.
 
 . . . As the good book says, the wicked flee when none pursueth.
 
 
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					Originally Posted by TexTushHog  Why on earth wouldn't you agree with his substantive position?  You think the U.S. has a right to kill it's own citizens on it's own soil without due process??!!!!  And if so, why, for God's sake??!!!! |  |  
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		|  03-08-2013, 10:20 AM | #54 |  
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	Rumor has it that Congresswoman Shelia Jackson Lee (Dim-TX) is planning just such a filibuster: she wants to ensure there is no collateral damage to that flag Armstrong left on Mars in 1969.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by WTF  Rand Paul should now filibuster the Obama administration to assure us that we will not drone Martians, should they land in New Mexico! |  
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		|  03-08-2013, 10:45 AM | #55 |  
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	What a cop out.  Combat doesn't need to be defined. It is understood to mean that - at the very minimum - the individual is engaged in violence, RIGHT NOW, or will be very soon.Quote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by WTF  If you read the letter, it does nothing to address the actual question at hand. Can the President kill Americans on our own soil with drones. The answer is yes, if he thinks they are engaged in combat. Combat was not defined. So Rand Paul engaged in political grandstanding for the paranoid/ignorant among us. I'll be nice and leave it up to each individual to define ignorant. There is no doubt who the paranoid are roaming this forum. |  
 That is no different than cops shooting an armed man that is am imminent threat to them or someone else.
 
 If there was an armed revolution occuring in the country, no one would dispute the Presidents power to suppress it with the military.  That is no different than the Civil War.
 
 But the original issue wasn't whether an American citizen was involved in "combat", it was whether the American citizen was a "terrorist".
 
 "Terrorist" has a much more flexible definition than "combat".
 
 
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		|  03-08-2013, 12:47 PM | #56 |  
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					Originally Posted by ExNYer  What a cop out. Combat doesn't need to be defined. It is understood to mean that - at the very minimum - the individual is engaged in violence, RIGHT NOW, or will be very soon.
 
 
 
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	Stupid SOB (that would be directed at you, exNYer) forgets that Presidents argue about what the definition of 'is', is! 
 
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					Originally Posted by ExNYer  .
 That is no different than cops shooting an armed man that is am imminent threat to them or someone else.
 
 If there was an armed revolution occuring in the country, no one would dispute the Presidents power to suppress it with the military. That is no different than the Civil War.
 
 But the original issue wasn't whether an American citizen was involved in "combat", it was whether the American citizen was a "terrorist".
 
 "Terrorist" has a much more flexible definition than "combat".
 
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		|  03-08-2013, 12:48 PM | #57 |  
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					Originally Posted by I B Hankering  Rumor has it that Congresswoman Shelia Jackson Lee (Dim-TX) is planning just such a filibuster: she wants to ensure there is no collateral damage to that flag Armstrong left on Mars in 1969. |  
Rumor has it that I'd drone that bitch!    |  
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		|  03-08-2013, 01:00 PM | #58 |  
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					Originally Posted by WTF  That means they think they can drone citizen engaged in combat. Why didn't Rand press them on the meaning of 'combat'. |  
After 12 hours he probably had to piss.   
He brought attention to the matter, which was his goal.  Even CNN/MSNBC had to cover the story so lots of people saw something that never would have heard about it otherwise.  Mission accomplished.
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		|  03-08-2013, 01:12 PM | #59 |  
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				 Don't worry about that Great White Shark off to your starboard CC, you have on Shark repellant 
 
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Chica Chaser  After 12 hours he probably had to piss. He brought attention to the matter, which was his goal. Even CNN/MSNBC had to cover the story so lots of people saw something that never would have heard about it otherwise. Mission accomplished.
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			Its good that you have an opinion.  It would be pretty boring if everyone agreed with each other.
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